Trolling Incest & Cuckold

[VerbalAbuse]

It appears Incest and Cuckold are the topics that interest readers the most.
Has anybody posted stories in these categories just to troll them?
I've thought of writing some very short stories (750 words) and post them, just to see the reaction.

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Late edit (21/02/24):

My first incest story:

Hope

 

[StillStunned]

It appears Incest and Cuckold are the topics that interest readers the most.
Has anybody posted stories in these categories just to troll them?
I've thought of writing some very short stories (750 words) and post them, just to see the reaction.

Like cutting off at 750 words, just as the sex is about to happen? Ooh, how about a tantric series of 750-worders, where each story comes closer and closer to the sex, but never actually gets there?

 

[KeithD]

It appears Incest and Cuckold are the topics that interest readers the most.
Has anybody posted stories in these categories just to troll them?
I've thought of writing some very short stories (750 words) and post them, just to see the reaction.

I've seen that done, yes. It, of course, just encourages trolling of the stories there (poking the lion). So, if you do it, I don't see where you are justified in complaining about the trolling there.

 

[SimonDoom]

My story BTB, Incorporated wasn't meant to "troll" anybody, but it was meant to poke fun at the category, and it upset some readers for the way it turned out. SPOILER ALERT for anyone who might read it but doesn't want to know how it turns out.

It starts out as a Mike Hammer-style detective spoof in which the detective, Sonny Biggs, is hired by a sniveling client to find out if the client's wife is cheating on him. The detective does his work, informs the client/husband that the wife is cheating, and they go to confront her. I set the story up as a client getting revenge against the wife story, but when they get to the wife's house the detective reveals HE is the one having the affair with the wife, and he proceeds to have sex with her in front of the husband, cuckolding him on the spot. The husband does nothing.

It produced a lot of extremely nasty comments and my lowest score yet. On the other hand, some enjoyed the story, the Mike Hammer spoof humor, and the twist at the end. I felt it was worth it despite the vitriol. It was tons of fun to write.

I also made fun of the Loving Wives category in my "tandem" story Cuckolds and Incels, where one of the authors sympathetically treated the husband's cuckoldry and the other author condemned it.

See:
https://literotica.com/s/btb-incorporated
https://literotica.com/s/cuckolds-and-incels-a-chain-story

 

[alohadave]

It appears Incest and Cuckold are the topics that interest readers the most.
Has anybody posted stories in these categories just to troll them?
I've thought of writing some very short stories (750 words) and post them, just to see the reaction.

Why would you troll them? For what purpose?

 

[EmilyMiller]

Trolling Incest & Cuckold​

I’ve written fully-formed stories that challenge aspects of the Loving Wives paradigm (one about cheating in a lesbian marriage, one about a married sex worker). I’ve written a satire of rape porn where the MMC (a writer of such) is anally trained by a dominant lesbian (it’s also a 1984 homage). I’ve written a Reluctance story where the FMC has appallingly low self-esteem and allows herself to be used in various ways, essentially because she believes she deserves nothing else.

I was aware in all four cases that I was writing counter to the category paradigm. But I wasn’t trying to be mindlessly provocative. I was trying to write my type of story in that category. I don’t view that as trolling, but I guess that’s a matter of perspective.

Emily

 

[grenefire]

What would be the purpose of trolling them? What do you get out of it?

 

[lovecraft68]

I've trolled LW in multiple ways

I wrote a burn the bastard story as a middle finger to the burn the bitch crowd.

I did what was meant as a satire of the cuckold stories, but had a feeling the dopes over there couldn't see it wasn't meant to be taken seriously and was right.

My last foray there was a legit story, but anything involving a wife having sex with other men-especially in front of them- is like trolling the 'real men' faction because its like a red flag in front of a bull.

On the other side, I've read a decent amount of I/T stories here and never saw one that seemed to be trolling the category. I don't even see a lot of trolls there considering the nature of the kink.

 

[Lifestyle66]

It appears Incest and Cuckold are the topics that interest readers the most.
Has anybody posted stories in these categories just to troll them?
I've thought of writing some very short stories (750 words) and post them, just to see the reaction.

All of my stories are swingers, with most of them posted to Loving Wives.

Yes, I take the hit from 1-bombers witht their "Cuck/wimp husband" , and "Why get married". comments. But I find it interesting to watch the ratings and comments come in.

I've posted six 750-word stories this year to LW with varying relationship scenarios, to see their reactions.

"Pavlov's Dog" is the lowest rated at 2.1, about a wife training her husband to accept her infidelity.
"The Loving Wife" is the highest rated at 3.76 as just a story about a wife taking care of her husband.
And "After the Party" is at 3.64 about a cheating wife, with the husband getting even without resorting to violence.

My next story there will be out within the next two days, about a couple meeting in the swinger lifestyle and talking about their future together, to poke at those who ask "Why get married?"

After this month, I might write a longer review of the LW audience reactions.

EDIT: I wrote "A Gathering of Trolls" over a year ago to deliberately poke at "incels". But it did better than I expected, suggesting the audience in LW are not incels.

 

[lovecraft68]

What would be the purpose of trolling them? What do you get out of it?

Answering for myself, I hate and have nothing but disdain for a certain breed that's polluted that category, so I like to make them angry. I'm not going out of my way to troll, I write hot wife stories from time to time because I like them, but they don't, and I like that.

They take my story to heart and froth and squeal over it, meantime other than getting a laugh from some of the more creative comments, they have no effect on me.

 

[MrPixel]

Has anybody posted stories in these categories just to troll them?

Yep: A Hard Lesson in Responsibility. Daddy (1-in-4 chance) gets his little slut daughter pregnant.

Scored well.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

Some of you have already answered the Why troll question.

I figure writing a short story in such categories is a good writing exercise. I call it trolling because I can't take incest and cuckolding very seriously. Sure, there are some good stories there, but I don't exactly connect with these genres.

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

I've thought of writing some very short stories (750 words) and post them, just to see the reaction.

Username checks out. Kinda, at least.

I've seen multiple trolling posts over the years, yes. Though, I never really understood why people would do that other than to cultivate the problem they wanted to complain about. And I never understood how lit can be cool with it.

Like, posting a story to LW where a husband finds out that his wife and daughter have slept with his brothers and colleagues, only see him as a meal ticket, and use any opportunity to make fun of his cluelessness. Then MC has a mental breakdown and... the story ends. Just like that. The whole thing was designed to leave those readers (who don't enjoy pain and suffering) in a state of anger and disgust at the women of the story, enforcing their displeasure of those kinds of stories. And then the author came to the forum to make fun of the commenters.

So, basically, you just kicked your own audience and purposefully pissed off Lit's customer base. But, I guess, you got to troll people you don't agree with, so... good for you? I guess?

 

[VerbalAbuse]

Username checks out. Kinda, at least.

I've seen multiple trolling posts over the years, yes. Though, I never really understood why people would do that other than to cultivate the problem they wanted to complain about. And I never understood how lit can be cool with it.

Like, posting a story to LW where a husband finds out that his wife and daughter have slept with his brothers and colleagues, only see him as a meal ticket, and use any opportunity to make fun of his cluelessness. Then MC has a mental breakdown and... the story ends. Just like that. The whole thing was designed to leave those readers (who don't enjoy pain and suffering) in a state of anger and disgust at the women of the story, enforcing their displeasure of those kinds of stories. And then the author came to the forum to make fun of the commenters.

So, basically, you just kicked your own audience and purposefully pissed off Lit's customer base. But, I guess, you got to troll people you don't agree with, so... good for you? I guess?

see post prior to yours.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

Username checks out. Kinda, at least.

I've seen multiple trolling posts over the years, yes. Though, I never really understood why people would do that other than to cultivate the problem they wanted to complain about. And I never understood how lit can be cool with it.

Like, posting a story to LW where a husband finds out that his wife and daughter have slept with his brothers and colleagues, only see him as a meal ticket, and use any opportunity to make fun of his cluelessness. Then MC has a mental breakdown and... the story ends. Just like that. The whole thing was designed to leave those readers (who don't enjoy pain and suffering) in a state of anger and disgust at the women of the story, enforcing their displeasure of those kinds of stories. And then the author came to the forum to make fun of the commenters.

So, basically, you just kicked your own audience and purposefully pissed off Lit's customer base. But, I guess, you got to troll people you don't agree with, so... good for you? I guess?

but what if it was that? what if you'd tell the readers that, hey, incest and cuckolding is not really cool?

 

[samhasstories]

I think experimenting with subverting category/genre tropes to push those limits and see what else can be done in that sphere can be interesting. When you call it trolling, though, it suggests to me that you're not experimenting in good faith; you're doing it to fuck with your audience, trying to elicit a negative response because it's, what, funny? I may of course have that wrong, but I don't see the upside to that.

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

but what if it was that? what if you'd tell the readers that, hey, incest and cuckolding is not really cool?

Then you'll be told the old tale of Lit being a place of kink positivity and shaming people for what they like is bad.

I mean, yes, in my personal and professional experience, cuckolds are what we call a suicide risk and the overwhelmingly vast majority of incest is rape and abuse. But that doesn't apply here. The incest stories you'll find in the I/T category are (mostly) wholesome tales of consensual fun, while the cuckold stories you'll find in the LW category almost never depict negative consequences.

People here don't WANT to see their kinks presented in a realistic manner. If they want realism, they'll watch the news.

 

[alohadave]

what if you'd tell the readers that, hey, incest and cuckolding is not really cool?

And you think trolling readers is the way to do that?

What makes your morals better than anyone else's? Who are you to tell anyone else that their kinks are wrong or bad?

 

[VerbalAbuse]

Then you'll be told the old tale of Lit being a place of kink positivity and shaming people for what they like is bad.

I mean, yes, in my personal and professional experience, cuckolds are what we call a suicide risk and the overwhelmingly vast majority of incest is rape and abuse. But that doesn't apply here. The incest stories you'll find in the I/T category are (mostly) wholesome tales of consensual fun, while the cuckold stories you'll find in the LW category almost never have negative consequences.

People here don't WANT to see their kinks presented in a realistic manner. If they want realism, they'll watch the news.

isn't it the same with smoking and drinking?

 

[Lifestyle66]

Some of you have already answered the Why troll question.

I figure writing a short story in such categories is a good writing exercise. I call it trolling because I can't take incest and cuckolding very seriously. Sure, there are some good stories there, but I don't exactly connect with these genres.

As you're getting feedback here, you see how some consider it "trolling" and suggest it's just being mean to make the readers mad.

It's not. It's not being mean or funny, because those readers are there LOOKING for stories to do just that: Hate it, 1-bomb it, and leave a nasty comment!

Some people are damaged and get pleasure out of pulling the wings off flies. There are readers in Loving Wives who HATE any extra-marital sex, even if it's consensual and sexy. And they will click on a story titled "I Allow My Wife to Fuck Other Men", merely to get their own form of debased entertainment by hating it.

That's not trolling to be funny or mean. That's writing the stories which the audience wants to read!

My latest story "After the Party - 750 Words" described as "They didn't know about the cameras." That suggests there's video of something wrong. It's about a husband finding his wife cheating, and how he reacts. But in just over 24 hours since it went public, it has over 15K views and rates 3.64 with over 1.1k raters.

So that story attracted the readers to get their own form of entertainment.

 

[SimonDoom]

My experience with so-called "trolling" is that people often use the word to describe people who take a point of view they disagree with. That's not trolling; it's just having a difference of opinion. Differences of opinion should be welcomed, or at least tolerated, not condemned.

I don't condemn or shame anyone for their kinks, whatever they are. But I think it's perfectly legitimate from an artistic point of view to spoof or satirize a story category and its tropes and expectations. That's what I was doing with my two stories. Some people, of course, have no sense of humor and get their dander up any time you offer up a story that violates their sense of right and wrong. I respect their right to have their opinion, but I don't respect their outrage, and I'm certainly not ever going to modify my behavior at this Site to avoid it.

I also write and publish these kinds of stories because they serve My artistic purpose here, which is to have fun. Some people get it and have fun with the stories. Some don't.

what if you'd tell the readers that, hey, incest and cuckolding is not really cool?

Why aren't they cool, within the confines of this fantasy story site? What's wrong with them? If some people enjoy these fantasies, let them enjoy them. Have fun with your fantasies and let others have fun with theirs.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

I've found this brilliant short story by @jezzaz:

https://literotica.com/s/delilah-5

I wholeheartedly recommend!

 

[Lifestyle66]

... while the cuckold stories you'll find in the LW category almost never depict negative consequences.

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I must disagree with that view.

The highest rated cheating wife, cuckold stories in Loving Wives have very negative consequences for the cheating spouse. There is a significant portion of LW stories which I refer to as BTB (burn the bitch) stories, the least offensive of which end in divorce.

 

[KeithD]

I've written to the LW category in my previous sr71plt account, each time writing to what I see the original intent of the category was. None have done well in the ratings, although one earned a Green E editor's choice from Laurel. If I had a story idea to write to that category again, it would be geared to what I see was the original intent of the category and I would expect it not to do well in the ratings.

 

[lovecraft68]

And I never understood how lit can be cool with it.

My feeling on this is how is lit cool with the disgusting hatred spewed in the comments section on cuck stories? Talking about raping the wife, torturing the other man, all manner of slurs and just venomous spew. The site screens comments for spam, but they can see these things and they let them go, I imagine with the thought the author can remove if they choose.

So, if Lit is cool with having a category that thanks to certain factions has devolved into a cesspool of hatred against women, as well as a lot of racist remarks and general hate speech, then they can be cool with people deciding to piss off that type.

Because in the end what that group is doing is trying to bully people out of the category and control its content, and running from them is giving them what they want. Cheating wife stories fit the category description, the site, not them, has decided what fits where, and they don't like it. So, why should bullied get their way? Why should they be respected and not given a dose of their own crap?

And again, if the story fits there its not trolling, its placing a story in the category that works. But because of their man baby crap, its seen as trolling.

I write what I want, and will put it where I want (within lits parameters) and I'm not going to let a pack of jackals change that.

Understand, they don't have to read these stories, and many don't they just click and spew, they choose to so...fuck them.