intothewoods
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Considerably longer, if my quickie research is correct.
Latin "Magister" (great/large magus) > Old English "Magister" > Middle English "Master"
This is a VERY basic etymology. VERY.
Anyway, Middle English is what was spoken after the Norman Invasion, so 1066 to the mid-to-late 1400's, roughly.
Now I have Renfaire speak in my head!
I don't agree that we all want to be noticed. I for one am happiest when I am left to believe I am invisible, not dragged into the spotlight in the belief I might feel left out if not, and basically could happily live a hermit existence...this was also how I was in mainstream life. LOL, I do that hermit thing pretty well as it is, but to be honest, whenever I think of my dream location in the world geographically, it is far from people, somewhere where I do not have to deal with people basically except for the basics of food etc...probably why I have found internet a dream come true.
Just the same, there is nothing wrong with those who do need and crave attention, though sometimes I may think there are better ways of achieving that than some choose, but once again that comes down to personal opinion and subjectiveness. My previous statement was more about all those in a particular relationship, more so than an individual. It also was about my observation over the years of those who seem to place more importance in what others think, being noticed, being thought well of in the community, being seen etc., than they do in just being. For some, if they did not interact with others, did not get that recognition in whatever form, did not have others who knew the dynamics of their relationship and what they do, the relationship would lose its charm.
For us, we do not mix with others in the community, but even if we did, it would not be an important part of us and our relationship, nor define it...it manages to do fine without the approval of others, interaction with others even in a social sense, and comes back to us always as a couple, not part of a community. IOW, if no-one in the world knew we lived this lifestyle, it would not make any difference to how we experience each other, how much we get out of our relationship and the dynamics, who we are.
Catalina
The universal need to be "noticed" or heard, really heard (what I would emphasize), isn't necessarily fulfilled by a random stranger or friends or people in the bdsm scene. My PYL would also love to be a hermit, I think, but he still wants his pyl and the people important to him to hear him, his thoughts, needs and desires. I think that's a pretty basic human need.
I hear you identifying different types of people in reference to exhibitionism or a need to be seen. I don't think there is one thing going on. If we're just talking about people who need to parade their relationship through the community for validation...well, someone who really can't live without that validation is probably very lonely.
Most people in my bdsm community are pretty private about their relationships. The most extreme sexual exhibitionists among them get off on that "public" whatever - humiliation, sadism, degradation, etc. - but their private relationships are something sacred.
I don't think all discussion of a relationship need be dismissed. I am someone who has to talk things out, think it out, write it out, etc., to understand something. My PYL knows this and accepts this about me, and I have certain boundaries I respect when I discuss something that relates to him. There are things about him I will not talk about. In other words, one can be an extrovert, a person who enjoys gabbing with girlfriends, or whatever it is, and be respectful of one's relationship.