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R. Richard

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I get a significant amount of my book sales via Barnes & Noble.

End of the book for Barnes & Noble?
'This may be the last year they remain open'

The unthinkable may be looming for retail book giant Barnes & Noble, and plans for more store closings by year’s end are sending shockwaves through the publishing world.

In the past two years, Barnes & Noble has closed an average of 20 stores each year, although more than 600 remain, spread across all 50 states. Michael Levin, writing in the Contra Costa Times, warned that gift cards from the book chain might be worthless by year’s end: “If anyone gives you a Barnes & Noble gift card, be sure to cash it in by the end of the year. This may be the last year that Barnes & Noble bookstores remain open.”

Levin added that publishers are closely watching Barnes & Noble’s struggles.

“The publishers have to be running scared,” he wrote. “If B&N suddenly shutters its doors, then billions of dollars of books, which the bookstores take on consignment, go into the limbo of bankruptcy court.”

Industry insiders agree that the chief reason Barnes & Noble finds itself in a precarious position is the ease with which book buyers can purchase through Amazon. Everyone from agents to publishers is following the saga closely.

“The future of brick-and-mortar bookstores is a concern that keeps many publishers up at night,” said Marji Ross, president of Regnery. “Most of us have spent countless hours browsing through long aisles of towering bookshelves, discovering new delights and rediscovering beloved old favorites. Our personal attachment amplifies our professional concern: Where will readers go to browse? How will readers discover books that are merely ‘future classics’?”

Ross sees the brick-and-mortar store difficulties impacting several areas of publishing.

“Even at Regnery, where we excel at gaining massive publicity and visibility for our books, we worry about the impact of fewer bookstores and less square footage for the retail space that remains,” she said. “The short-term impact of this shrinking footprint is an increasing divide between celebrity authors and everyone else. The longer-term impact could be a narrowing of our public discourse. For all those reasons, publishers are, and increasingly should be, dedicated to helping keep brick-and-mortar stores viable. They matter more than you might think, not just to American publishers but to American culture.”

Joyce Hart, for several decades an industry veteran in the areas of sales and agenting, understands that technology threatens to dismantle the necessity of brick-and-mortar stores.

“I have seen many changes in the book industry, especially in the last five years,” she said. “We’ve seen the demise of many of the independent bookstores. Borders is gone, and now what is the future of Barnes & Noble?”

Hart added, “I love bookstores and do my best to shop locally. However, online shopping is so easy, and if you spend ‘X’ amount of money, you get free shipping. Digital publishing has made huge changes in the way we read books. I still prefer holding a book in my hand, but I have a Kindle, a Nook and an iPad, and I read from those readers.”

Now as an agent, Hart also keeps apprised of how publishing changes affect writers.

“Many people are self-publishing, some with success, others not so good,” she said. “However, this does not get their books on the bookshelves of bookstores. What is the future of bookstores? I hope we still have some brick-and-mortar stores in the future, or will bookstores go the way of the small, independent grocery stores?”

In 2011, Barnes & Noble’s chief competition, Borders, ceased operation, shutting down almost 700 stores and sending more than 19,000 employees to the unemployment lines. Although Barnes & Noble went forward with one less competitor, several factors have caused the New York City-based company to find itself on the edge of extinction, including deep discounts on books at Walmart and Costco.

In addition, Barnes and Noble’s once-vaunted Nook reading device has not been able to keep sales pace with Amazon’s Kindle or Apple’s iPad.

Observers say all these factors appear to be adding up to trouble for the retailer and ominous trends for publishers everywhere.
 
So whats to keep the locals from selling on-line like Amazon? Nuthin. Its how Amazon got started. Six or so locals formed an association to sell on-line.
 
So whats to keep the locals from selling on-line like Amazon? Nuthin. Its how Amazon got started. Six or so locals formed an association to sell on-line.
That's not the point. The point is the demise of the last hold-out of the major brick-and-mortar bookstores. Even used bookstores have been closing down. Maybe airport bookstores will last a tad longer, maybe not. I've wondered if some possible holdouts would be bookstores that are more than just bookstores - for example, Kramerbooks & Afterwards in DC has a bar and restaurant associated with it.
 
That's not the point. The point is the demise of the last hold-out of the major brick-and-mortar bookstores. Even used bookstores have been closing down. Maybe airport bookstores will last a tad longer, maybe not. I've wondered if some possible holdouts would be bookstores that are more than just bookstores - for example, Kramerbooks & Afterwards in DC has a bar and restaurant associated with it.

People don't wanna read, people cant read. God made tv so they don't hafta read.
 
Which isn't the point either. Or correct. Reading continues to rise, not decline. The point is that point of sale is (and has been) shifting to online. I've shifted my pattern too and it doesn't surprise me that this is a general trend. I'm not buying/reading fewer books, though, and no one else is either, I think. In fact, the e-book revolution has significantly broadened the categories of what is available (evidence the whole erotica genre) and thus broadened and deepened the pool of buyers/readers too.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens to B&N brick and mortar stores (probably won't be the same thing that happens to their online market). The interest thing is that years ago we were bemoaning the death of the local independent bookstore to the big chains when it looks like it's the big chains that are going to die and people who want to browse in bookstores with actual books and shelves will be continuing to do so in independent stores.

The most interesting question will be how mainstream publishers (continue to) adjust. They had resisted any change for a while, but now they are bending to the trends. Can they continue to make supplying brick and mortar bookstores cost effective, though? If they can't almost everything will go to online sales.
 
Which isn't the point either. Or correct. Reading continues to rise, not decline. The point is that point of sale is (and has been) shifting to online. I've shifted my pattern too and it doesn't surprise me that this is a general trend. I'm not buying/reading fewer books, though, and no one else is either, I think. In fact, the e-book revolution has significantly broadened the categories of what is available (evidence the whole erotica genre) and thus broadened and deepened the pool of buyers/readers too.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens to B&N brick and mortar stores (probably won't be the same thing that happens to their online market). The interest thing is that years ago we were bemoaning the death of the local independent bookstore to the big chains when it looks like it's the big chains that are going to die and people who want to browse in bookstores with actual books and shelves will be continuing to do so in independent stores.

The most interesting question will be how mainstream publishers (continue to) adjust. They had resisted any change for a while, but now they are bending to the trends. Can they continue to make supplying brick and mortar bookstores cost effective, though? If they can't almost everything will go to online sales.

Youre fulla shit again. Amazon sales are down, earnings are down.
 
Youre fulla shit again. Amazon sales are down, earnings are down.

Not compared to B&N sales. And sales are coming up again. They were down in the fourth quarter or last year, mainly because of the uncertainty of the U.S. government shutdown. This hit all booksellers, though, print books harder than e-books. Books weren't something folks bought during that uncertainty. As usual, James, you are addressing something you have nothing to do with. Where are you in the marketplace other than posting Amazon reviews of the works of others?

Anyone who banks on a fool like you is just as much a fool and deserves what they get.
 
Not compared to B&N sales. And sales are coming up again. They were down in the fourth quarter or last year, mainly because of the uncertainty of the U.S. government shutdown. This hit all booksellers, though, print books harder than e-books. Books weren't something folks bought during that uncertainty. As usual, James, you are addressing something you have nothing to do with. Where are you in the marketplace other than posting Amazon reviews of the works of others?

Anyone who banks on a fool like you is just as much a fool and deserves what they get.

Earning Green E's.
 
No, I didn't think you had the actual knowledge/experience to sustain your points.
 
Maybe the mainstream publishers should shift to more of a POD method and not just publish x amount of copies per book and force them down brick and mortar stores throats.

As for B/N the only thing I know is if they close their storefronts I can guarantee the people going "Oh, that's so sad" the loudest will be people who aven't bought a book in forever and the ones who don't even pay for e-books, they just gobble up free books like Pac man. Then they say "Oh, what a shame."
 
It isn't the sales of books that are reducing, it is the sale of books through traditional shop outlets.

Even now, more physical copies of books are sold each year than the year before, despite the massive increase in ebooks.

But those books are increasingly sold online.

I used to be a secondhand bookdealer with a shop. If I were to start again, I would do all my selling on line because the shop overheads would be too high. All I need is a computer, internet connection and somewhere to store the books, with a small space for packing them.
 
Some mainstream (and many academic) presses are already using POD to supply their backlist orders. The break-even point on print run versus POD, though, is 300 copies. There aren't too many publishers (other than vanity press) that would consider launching a new title at all if it wasn't going to sell at least 1,500 copies.
 
It isn't the sales of books that are reducing, it is the sale of books through traditional shop outlets.

Even now, more physical copies of books are sold each year than the year before, despite the massive increase in ebooks.

But those books are increasingly sold online.

I used to be a secondhand bookdealer with a shop. If I were to start again, I would do all my selling on line because the shop overheads would be too high. All I need is a computer, internet connection and somewhere to store the books, with a small space for packing them.

That's what I did with the comic store. I closed the actual shop but continued to buy collections of old books and sell them online and also did online subscriptions out of my house for about a year before I got tired of trying to keep up with all the crossovers going on.
 
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