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very, very true!ownedsubgal said:i do not believe for a second that submission is born of abuse. however i think a naturally submissive female is extremely vulnerable to abuse.
TigerClaw said:In dealing with my pain the last year I have noticed something from the women I have talked too. Many subs have an abusive past, mostly from childhood. I am finding low self esteem, just gives in as submission, the need to show submission in order to be liked, loved or appreciated.
Not me. I have never been abused by anyone nor have I ever suffered any type of trauma... sexual or otherwise.
I think there is no doubt in the people who know me that I do not suffer from low self esteem.
Many feel they can not be liked just by being themselves. The more extreme subs have to earn kindness given to them and more often then not deserve whatever bad comes their way.
Again, not me.
In addition I have found women who say they don’t believe they can find a guy who will treat them well in every day life or in this lifestyle. At least in this lifestyle there are guidelines, safe words that should be followed.
Another self esteem issue that I do not suffer from.
I'm submissive because that is who I am, not because of any past experiences. I have no "luggage" that I am carrying around. This is likely not the kind of answer you were looking for and perhaps I should not have even posted.
ownedsubgal said:
i do not believe for a second that submission is born of abuse. however i think a naturally submissive female is extremely vulnerable to abuse. abusers are attracted to the weak and submissive, that is just a reality of life. i am sure my childhood abuser chose me and used me for so long because i was so "safe". he knew i would never tell, and that i would never fight back. i just took it.
TigerClaw said:I think the comment above that submissive women are more likely to be abused is a valid statement. Which then also brings up where were the parents or relatives to stop such abuse?
TigerClaw said:That is the thread I have to sit down and read from begining to end. I was going to print it but it is over 1000 pages.
Has a lot of networking been going on in that thread for subs?