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VaticanAssassin

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A proposal from the Obama administration to prevent children from doing farm chores has drawn plenty of criticism from rural-district members of Congress. But now it’s attracting barbs from farm kids themselves.

The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule that would apply child-labor laws to children working on family farms, prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land.

Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

“Prohibited places of employment,” a Department press release read, “would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/r...-dept-rule-banning-farm-chores/#ixzz1t402ggxD
 
Good. More jobs for grown-ups.

And before you tell us that farmers can't afford to hire people, I'll remind you that most family farms are exempt from minimum-wage laws.
 
VaticanAssassin said:
A proposal from the Obama administration to prevent children from doing farm chores has drawn plenty of criticism from rural-district members of Congress. But now it’s attracting barbs from farm kids themselves.

The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule that would apply child-labor laws to children working on family farms, prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land.

Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

“Prohibited places of employment,” a Department press release read, “would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/r...-dept-rule-banning-farm-chores/#ixzz1t402ggxD
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Sounds pretty fucking stupid. It pisses me off because stupid regulations like this serve as fodder for when necessary regulation is being shouted down.

This is when liberals with "good ideas" are at their worst.
 
phrodeau said:
Good. More jobs for grown-ups.

And before you tell us that farmers can't afford to hire people, I'll remind you that most family farms are exempt from minimum-wage laws.
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Seriously?

It is about building character, a strong work ethic, learning responsibility, about the government telling you how to raise your kids, about teaching your kids not to be that idiot living in a state park getting high and bitching about not being able to find a job.............

No doubt you are what is wrong with America. You should think about moving to France or something......I will buy you the one way.
 
the proposal linked in the article states that family farms are exempt from the new set of rules.
 
Ok so look at the flip side - where is the outcry for more regulation of the family farm? What is the motivating factor behind the DOT making these changes? That would be interesting to know.

Smells like overreaching bureaucracy to me.
 
neci_please_me said:
the proposal linked in the article states that family farms are exempt from the new set of rules.
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and?

I threw bails for extra summer $ when I was a kid, and we never owned a farm. Children of the parents that own the farm are exempt. But the law does not allow them to work on a relatives farm now, or a neighbors.

So you think this should not be the parents call? Let the government raise your kid for you?
 
my cousin pays extra tuition so his children can feed animals & stuff at the school's farm.
 
VaticanAssassin said:
A proposal from the Obama administration to prevent children from doing farm chores has drawn plenty of criticism from rural-district members of Congress. But now it’s attracting barbs from farm kids themselves.

The Department of Labor is poised to put the finishing touches on a rule that would apply child-labor laws to children working on family farms, prohibiting them from performing a list of jobs on their own families’ land.

Under the rules, children under 18 could no longer work “in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials.”

“Prohibited places of employment,” a Department press release read, “would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/25/r...-dept-rule-banning-farm-chores/#ixzz1t402ggxD
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VaticanAssassin said:
So who is the top? :cool:
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You and you should just admit your first post was wrong. The inbreeding shouldn't prevent that.
 
Somebody needs to remind government officials where their food comes from - without fostering a childs interest in agriculture at a young age, there is little hope of having any future generations to carry on what is essentially our most important industry - food production.

...afterall, it's not as though there is a line up of college aged city kids placing a checkmark beside "farmer" for career aspirations.
 
VaticanAssassin said:
and?

I threw bails for extra summer $ when I was a kid, and we never owned a farm. Children of the parents that own the farm are exempt. But the law does not allow them to work on a relatives farm now, or a neighbors.

So you think this should not be the parents call? Let the government raise your kid for you?
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JohnnySavage said:
You and you should just admit your first post was wrong. The inbreeding shouldn't prevent that.
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Instead of repeating my answer to this I will simply quote my previous response. maybe if you read it twice you will comprehend....But I am not hopeful.
 
VaticanAssassin said:
and?

I threw bails for extra summer $ when I was a kid, and we never owned a farm. Children of the parents that own the farm are exempt. But the law does not allow them to work on a relatives farm now, or a neighbors.

So you think this should not be the parents call? Let the government raise your kid for you?
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first off, why don't you post the actual regulations...

http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/whd/WHD20111250.htm

WHD News Release: [08/31/2011]
Contact Name: Laura McGinnis or Sonia Melendez
Phone Number: (202) 693-4653 or x4672
Release Number: 11-1250-NAT
US Labor Department proposes updates to child labor regulations
Aims to improve safety of young workers employed in agriculture and related fields

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Department of Labor is proposing revisions to child labor regulations that will strengthen the safety requirements for young workers employed in agriculture and related fields. The agricultural hazardous occupations orders under the Fair Labor Standards Act that bar young workers from certain tasks have not been updated since they were promulgated in 1970.

The department is proposing updates based on the enforcement experiences of its Wage and Hour Division, recommendations made by the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, and a commitment to bring parity between the rules for young workers employed in agricultural jobs and the more stringent rules that apply to those employed in nonagricultural workplaces. The proposed regulations would not apply to children working on farms owned by their parents.

"Children employed in agriculture are some of the most vulnerable workers in America," said Secretary of Labor Hilda L. Solis. "Ensuring their welfare is a priority of the department, and this proposal is another element of our comprehensive approach."
The proposal would strengthen current child labor regulations prohibiting agricultural work with animals and in pesticide handling, timber operations, manure pits and storage bins. It would prohibit farmworkers under age 16 from participating in the cultivation, harvesting and curing of tobacco. And it would prohibit youth in both agricultural and nonagricultural employment from using electronic, including communication, devices while operating power-driven equipment.

The department also is proposing to create a new nonagricultural hazardous occupations order that would prevent children under 18 from being employed in the storing, marketing and transporting of farm product raw materials. Prohibited places of employment would include country grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, stockyards, livestock exchanges and livestock auctions.

Additionally, the proposal would prohibit farmworkers under 16 from operating almost all power-driven equipment. A similar prohibition has existed as part of the nonagricultural child labor provisions for more than 50 years. A limited exemption would permit some student learners to operate certain farm implements and tractors, when equipped with proper rollover protection structures and seat belts, under specified conditions.

The Wage and Hour Division employs a combination of enforcement, compliance assistance and collaboration strategies in partnership with states and community-based organizations to protect children working in the United States. When violations of law are found, the division uses all enforcement tools necessary to ensure accountability and deter future violations.

The division is responsible for enforcing the FLSA, which establishes federal child labor provisions for both agricultural and nonagricultural employment, and charges the secretary of labor with prohibiting employment of youth in occupations that she finds and declares to be particularly hazardous for them. The FLSA establishes a minimum age of 18 for hazardous work in nonagricultural employment and 16 in agricultural employment. Once agricultural workers reach age 16, they are no longer subject to the FLSA's child labor provisions. The FLSA also provides a complete exemption for youths employed on farms owned by their parents.

The public is invited to provide comments on this important proposal, which must be received by Nov. 1. A public hearing on the proposal will be held following the comment period. More information, including a complete list of the proposed revisions, will be available in the Federal Register on Sept. 2.
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there are certain aspects of this that i agree with, and other aspects that i don't. i don't believe children under 16 should be allowed to drive tractors or heavy machinery, and i don't believe children should be exposed to pesticides used on farms. it doesn't prevent kids from bailing hay, it prevents them from being employed in silos. i disagree with not allowing kids to be employed in livestock auctions and exchanges. i believe in organizations like 4H and FFA, and am interested in what aspect of this they agree with and which they don't.

do you believe children should be allowed to drive heavy machinery and work with pesticides?
 
Disgustipated said:
You've posted about my dick 3+ times in the last two days. Why?
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Because after image threated to reveal pictures of the little thing, I finally understood why you insist on talking about other peoples dicks all the time.......by all the time I mean take that 3 multiple it by 10..... and thats just the short period I have been here.

Plus short guys with short dicks that talk tough just make me laugh... I know that is wrong and I should feel sorry for you, but oh well......
 
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