Religiouslt confused

Religiously confused

Hi all,

This is a bit of an odd question or request, im in my 30s from uk, and have been brought up a christian, not devout, but go to church often enough, ive recently become conflicted in where I stand on a relious foot and wondered if any guys from other faiths wanted to chat?

Now I know its odd posting that on a sex forum in a bdsm personal section, the kick is, im open to this discussion being something that intertwines the religious thing and sexual submission. Now I get that religion and sexual submission might not be generally happy bedfellows, but you never know till you ask.

So yeah, if this strikes a chord..... pm me

Religion and Sex

Hello there. I would identify my self both a Christian and a man who enjoys a sexual venture into the perhaps darker 'non Christian' side of sex and life.

How to reconcile that which is 'forced upon us when young' to be dirty and our deep sexual desires which are of course 'totally natural'.? For me it is acceptance of who I am.

I answer to nobody other than a higher power.

It would be interesting and enjoyable to chat with you about this topic. I can be found on Lit. Send me a message there if you wish.

Hello Lisa,

What a great question! Though I won’t be surprised if it gets moved to the BDSM general threads.

I struggled immensely with what you’re describing. And I’ll be honest, I struggled for a long period of time. I was in denial for a very long time, and refused to accept many aspects about myself (my sub tendencies included). And this wasn’t little grudges against myself...I hated who I was.

As Erser stated, it came down to me understanding, accepting, and loving who I truly was in relation to my faith. I really had to strip everything back and bare my soul to myself. It was tough work! But definitely rewarding. I ended up approaching my faith in a naturalistic way. I focused on who I felt I was at my being (who God made me to be), and nurtured it. Being a sub was part of that nurturing process (with a nurturing Dom-like lover).

If you’d like to talk more, please feel free to PM. If not, my advice would be to talk to people in the BDSM community (go to Munches and such). There are many people of all walks of faith who live the BDSM way, and many are supportive with such questions.

I hope you find your way, Lisa.

Religion is STUPID.

But it is kind of the ultimate Sub thing ... letting a Master boss you around. Problem is, the Master doesn't exist and never did. Or should I say the various Masters since each religious tribe tends to create their own at will.

you PM's are turned off. I assume that's deliberate.

jaF0 said:

Religion is STUPID.

But it is kind of the ultimate Sub thing ... letting a Master boss you around. Problem is, the Master doesn't exist and never did. Or should I say the various Masters since each religious tribe tends to create their own at will.

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^^ that's a GB comment.

the OP above asks a sincere question about the her thought process.

putting yourself out there is a risk, because people can use what you say against you.

Uksublisa said:

Hi all,

This is a bit of an odd question or request, im in my 30s from uk, and have been brought up a christian, not devout, but go to church often enough, ive recently become conflicted in where I stand on a relious foot and wondered if any guys from other faiths wanted to chat?

Now I know its odd posting that on a sex forum in a bdsm personal section, the kick is, im open to this discussion being something that intertwines the religious thing and sexual submission. Now I get that religion and sexual submission might not be generally happy bedfellows, but you never know till you ask.

So yeah, if this strikes a chord..... pm me

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Lisa,

There's a lot of ways one can see this, but it all depends on what values you see yourself embracing - whether in a religious sense, or as a submissive, or both.

I see from your posts that you're a married lady who is wanting to explore and potentially find herself. If you're open to a chat, drop me a PM and we can get to know each other.

Well - I am a dedicated member of my religious group. We are seriously focused on our religion.
So... I am also a very closeted; secretive submissive.
In my 60's, I have had submissive relationships since I was a teenager. I was a "slave" for a time in my 20's where I was used by both men and women.
The thing is, it was mostly men who wanted to fuck me; tie me up; humiliate me; and otherwise use my lust for their pleasure.
And, that's a big no no in my religion. And in settling down and having a family with a religious woman....
So - I went deep into the closet; got married; tried to stay straight and failed.
In the early years of our marriage, I tried to live out some fantasies but my very straight, religious wife drew the line at ass fucking; humiliation; additional sex partners; and most other dominant activities.
There was a brief time 20 years ago when my wife thought she found out that I was sucking cock and getting fucked. Mainly because I tried to share the porn that I wrote in hopes that she might get the hint that this was part of me.
She did and didn't. And wanted a divorce until I finally convinced her that all my real experiences happened before we were married and I stopped writing about them (stopped writing porn) over 10 years before that....
Now today, we are happily married; with religious children and grandchildren.
And, I finally realized that a part of the turn on of me being a cock sucking closet submissive is that Nobody knows what kind of faggot slut this older respectable religious gentleman really is...
Am I still conflicted?
Yes.
I deleted my Strangesub email with years and years of pictures of me sucking cock and getting fucked and years and years of correspondence from Masters and Mistresses and others detailing my submissiveness just recently so... I would no longer be able to post ads on Craigslist to get fucked!
Ha!
As some might know - Craigslist Personals just shut down....
I have also opened and closed my personal Tumblr featuring many pics of me, several times.
I am obsessed and I pray not to be...
But....
Boy I love being used and abused....

If the concern is whether or not god exists then I don't think the truth value of that question should relate to whether or not you continue to worship it. Even if the existence of the Christian god were affirmed tomorrow why would you choose to worship any god who is petty and hateful enough that he instils fear in his followers like Luciana and Strangesub for merely acting according to the nature he either sanctions or created them with? A truly benevolent god wouldn't force his subjects to rationalize their very existence with his alleged morality.

I'm an atheist so I just see StrangeSub's personal dilemma as example #5 trillion of ways in which religion is a psychological poison but in the event that the Christians got it right and their god exists I still wouldn't worship it because it would be, frankly, a controlling, manipulative and immoral monster.

Dear Lisa

I wont to do two things with my message. First one is that I'd like to discuss your beliefs and sexuality with you, because it is interesting and I think it might be a cultural thing more than a religious thing. I myself was raised in a religious family, my mother is a preacher in a baptist church even, and I don't see the problem in being a submissive and wanting other to decide what you can do and going to church.

One reason might be that I'm from Denmark and the culture in the religious milieus are large enough to make my thoughts invalid. Another might be that I just don't care anymore?

The other thing I'd like is to offer you the online thing you are looking for. I have extensive experience doing it, and since we aren't in the same country it will have to stay online, which is what you want anyway.
Another point is that I'm happily married, though my wife is into SM too, so I can appreciate that you want it kept secret.
I haven't got secrets like that from my wife, but I'm lucky in that regard.
She might even have some insight for you that might help you.
No matter what you decide I wish you the best of luck.
- dims

ps.. It might be a good idea to turn on PM's if you want it kept private.

All the OT patriarchs had more than one wife, and each were probably no different than women today (they shared their opinions, input on decisions, etc.) There's nothing that defiles the marriage bed in nearly all religious worldviews unless it's beyond a committed relationship where the natural result isn't cared for and loved. There are countless couples who practice some form of male head of household and female submissive, and enjoy it most of all that way.

You'll be just fine. God doesn't hate you for the love you need (assuming it does no one any harm). Stop worrying.

People seem to think that if you are a Christian, that you don't have the same emotions, desires, struggles, and issue that everyone else has. Being a Christian doesn't make you immune to LIFE, it just gives you better ways to deal with them.

The thing is, as humans, as Christians, we don't choose to do what is BEST, but instead choose a path to satisfy a desire outside of God's will, that is called sin and YES, Christians STILL sin.

I'd very much like to chat with you Lisa. Can't message you currently so send me a PM if you'd like to chat.

Always good to bump into an old friend.

There's a woman in Britain trying to divorce her husband of many years because she does doesn't love him, he doesn't want a divorce, so she has to wait the statutory limit to be granted her divorce.

My question would be if the marriage is good but the sex is not there, are you allowed a mistress?

Hi Lisa,
I am looking for an online sub only. I love intelligent conversation and would love to help you.

Hello.

The problem with religion, is that there are two people writing/reading it at any moment. Those who are motivated by the one emotion, and those who are motivated by another. If your faith in God is based on Love, rather than rules, then you have no problem. If not, then you have problems that are bigger than how people in your group see you.

cause lets face it. It ain't them you have to impress. It's our Father. And he see's everything regardless of what we try to hide. So though we put a "brave front" or "false face" on for others, he see's our hearts. We are naked to him, bare to our souls.

Truth shall set us free. Not pretending to "fit in" to other people's ideas of what is "right, proper, acceptable and "correct form of love" lol.