The Connection Between bin Laden and Iran Coming Forth

phrodeau · Feb 27, 2015

vetteman said:
Over one million documents were seized during the bin Laden raid. The American public has only seen 17 of these documents, until now. These documents prove a connection between Iran and Al-Qaeda, a connection the Obama administration doesn't want Americans to know about on the eve of their deadline with Iran. Do we really want to make a deal with Iran, who has been in cahoots with Al-Qaeda for some time?

From the Weekly Standard:

New Docs Reveal Osama bin Laden's Secret Ties With Iran
Show availability of Iran for al Qaeda training, plotting.
12:27 PM, FEB 27, 2015 • BY THOMAS JOSCELYN

"The files do not support the view, promoted by some in the Obama administration, that bin Laden was in “comfortable retirement,” “sidelined,” or “a lion in winter” in the months leading up to his death. On the contrary, bin Laden is asked to give his order on a host of issues, ranging from the handling of money to the movement of terrorist operatives."

Rest of the story here:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/new-docs-reveal-osama-bin-ladens-secret-ties-iran_868678.html

You're going to have to come up with a name or two.

KingOrfeo · Feb 27, 2015

vetteman said:
Do we really want to make a deal with Iran . . .

Of course we do; it is the only way to make sure they will never have nuclear weapons.

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phrodeau · Feb 27, 2015

vetteman said:
The same people who negotiated Bill Clinton's promise that North Korea will never have a nuclear weapon are negotiating Obama's promise it won't happen with Iran. There is no credibility in Obama's negotiating skills or promises. Kerry is a sniveling wimp who is being brutalized and intimidated by Iranian negotiators.

Holy shit.

North Korea withdrew from the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 2003. Who was the President then?

North Korea had a successful nuclear test explosion in 2006. Who was President then?

KingOrfeo · Feb 27, 2015

vetteman said:
The same people who negotiated Bill Clinton's promise that North Korea will never have a nuclear weapon are negotiating Obama's promise it won't happen with Iran. There is no credibility in Obama's negotiating skills or promises. Kerry is a sniveling wimp who is being brutalized and intimidated by Iranian negotiators.

Bullshit, as shown above, but, nevertheless, an agreement is the only way to make sure the Iranians will never have nuclear weapons. What other way is there? You can forget about any way starting with "b" or "i" "w".

unregistered · Feb 27, 2015

cowslinger64 · Feb 27, 2015

phrodeau said:
Holy shit.

North Korea withdrew from the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 2003. Who was the President then?

North Korea had a successful nuclear test explosion in 2006. Who was President then?

vetteman said:
We ought to recognize they are a primary enemy and take out their capability militarily. Obama is going to give them the bomb, just a matter of time.

Gonna skip that one?

Or is that pile of crap your answer for both?

IrezumiKiss · Feb 27, 2015

phrodeau said:
Holy shit.

North Korea withdrew from the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 2003. Who was the President then?

North Korea had a successful nuclear test explosion in 2006. Who was President then?

WELL, ANSWER THE MAN, VETTE.

WE KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE HIM ON IGNORE.

KingOrfeo · Feb 27, 2015

vetteman said:
We ought to recognize they are a primary enemy and take out their capability militarily.

That is not an option. There's no way to be sure it won't spin out of control into a general regional war.

vetteman said:
Obama is going to give them the bomb, just a matter of time.

Not even you believe that.

Boxlicker101 · Mar 1, 2015

KingOrfeo said:
Of course we do; it is the only way to make sure they will never have nuclear weapons.

I hope you are not stupid enough to believe Iran would ever voluntarily honor an agreement with the Great Satan or any other infidels.

I don't know if Obama will give them the bomb or not, but I believe he will do little or nothing to prevent them from developing or buying one.

BotanyBoy · Mar 1, 2015

vetteman said:
We ought to recognize they are a primary enemy and take out their capability militarily. Obama is going to give them the bomb, just a matter of time.

Is there any country other than Israel that you DONT want to start a war with but not conquer? Just be at war with them for the sake of being at war??

IrezumiKiss said:
WELL, ANSWER THE MAN, VETTE.

WE KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE HIM ON IGNORE.

That would betray his party....he toes the line way to hard to admit (R) had anything to do with any of it.

All that will be Obamas fault by the time Vettey gets done with it....

KingOrfeo said:
That is not an option. There's no way to be sure it won't spin out of control into a general regional war.

That's what he's hoping for...it's the call of RW welfare!!

KingOrfeo said:
Not even you believe that.

He believes 9/11 was Clinton's fault and that O is an EXTREME leftist and absolutely refuses to admit basic irrefutably historical facts about St.Reagan in favor of delusions of GOP grandure...

Oh yes he does believe that....LMFAO!!!

Que · Mar 1, 2015

KingOrfeo said:
Bullshit, as shown above, but, nevertheless, an agreement is the only way to make sure the Iranians will never have nuclear weapons. What other way is there? You can forget about any way starting with "b" or "i" "w".

How does "an agreement" have the effect of "making sure the Iranians will never have nuclear weapons?"

Surely, they explained the concept of a breech when they were teaching you the basics of contract law?

Isn't any agreement only as good as the remedy available to the wronged party in the event of a breech?

KingOrfeo · Mar 1, 2015

Boxlicker101 said:
I hope you are not stupid enough to believe Iran would ever voluntarily honor an agreement with the Great Satan or any other infidels.

query said:
How does "an agreement" have the effect of "making sure the Iranians will never have nuclear weapons?"

That is why on-site inspections would have to be part of the agreement. Look, we're not breaking new ground here, those kinds of details were all worked out in various disarmament negotiations with the Soviets. "Trust, but verify," remember?

miles · Mar 1, 2015

Originally Posted by KingOrfeo View Post
Bullshit, as shown above, but, nevertheless, an agreement is the only way to make sure the Iranians will never have nuclear weapons. What other way is there?

Is there anyone more naive than a liberal?

Jesus H. Christ.

Disgustipated · Mar 1, 2015

miles said:
Originally Posted by KingOrfeo View Post
Bullshit, as shown above, but, nevertheless, an agreement is the only way to make sure the Iranians will never have nuclear weapons. What other way is there?

Is there anyone more naive than a liberal?

Jesus H. Christ.

Yep.

phrodeau · Mar 1, 2015

query said:
How does "an agreement" have the effect of "making sure the Iranians will never have nuclear weapons?"

Surely, they explained the concept of a breech when they were teaching you the basics of contract law?

Isn't any agreement only as good as the remedy available to the wronged party in the event of a breech?

Well, if we start lobbing bombs at them, one or two will certainly be duds, they'll pick them up and make working copies, and the right-wingers will scream that Obama gave them the bomb.

Boxlicker101 · Mar 1, 2015

KingOrfeo said:
That is why on-site inspections would have to be part of the agreement. Look, we're not breaking new ground here, those kinds of details were all worked out in various disarmament negotiations with the Soviets. "Trust, but verify," remember?

What makes you think Iran will even honor that much of an agreement?

They never have in the past.

Sean · Mar 1, 2015

Boxlicker101 said:
What makes you think Iran will even honor that much of an agreement? They never have in the past.

Which agreements have Iran not honoured in the past?

unregistered · Mar 1, 2015

Sean · Mar 1, 2015

Iran's nuclear program could have been shut down in 2006, there was a solid deal agreed. One man shut the deal down. John Bolton. If Iran gets nuclear weapons, John Bolton is directly responsible for it.

unregistered · Mar 1, 2015

Sean · Mar 1, 2015

vetteman said:
Total horse shit. The same people who negotiated Bill Clinton's nuclear deal with North Korea are negotiating this deal with Iran and we all know how that worked out. Iran will get the bomb.

Helmut Kohl, then German Chancellor and Jack Straw, the British Foreign secretary said it ON THE RECORD to Adam Curtis in The Power of Nightmares. The entire thing is on youtube, they said exactly that to camera. Go look it up.

Beco · Mar 1, 2015

vetteman said:
In 2014 Israel was going to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, it's air force was all rehearsed and ready to go when the plan was leaked to John Kerry and Obama threatened to shoot down all of the Israeli aircraft before they got to their target:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/191966#.VPNH9PnF9Mg

Obama would rather start a war with Israel than he would Iran.

THIS I believe...

IrezumiKiss · Mar 1, 2015

phrodeau said:
Holy shit.

North Korea withdrew from the Non-Proliferation Treaty in 2003. Who was the President then?

North Korea had a successful nuclear test explosion in 2006. Who was President then?

So Vette runs away from another one.

Forged In Pussification, indeed.

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