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Truth.

My I said:
Something Liberals know NOTHING about.

It's getting harder and harder to take ANY liberal seriously when they are ALL full of shit.
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"Data, facts, evidence, analysis, reason, logic, etcetera"
Sure, here you go @MyI:

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-study-2000-2013-1.pdf
FBI study on mass shootings 2000-2013.
"■In 37 incidents (23.1%), the shooter committed suicide at the scene before police
arrived.
■ In 21 incidents (13.1%), the situation ended after unarmed citizens safely and successfully restrained the shooter. In 2 of those incidents,24 3 off-duty law enforcement officers were present and assisted.
■ In 5 incidents (3.1%), the shooting ended after armed individuals who were not law enforcement personnel exchanged gunfire with the shooters. "
[the remaining 60.7% of incidents were stopped by police]

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Conclusion: It is drastically unlikely that an armed civilian will stop a mass shooting and the amount of guns in any given area is proportional to the amount of gun violence that area sees. Unsurprisingly.
More guns =/= more safety.

Try and refute it if you want, nothing you can say makes facts go away.
 
Blue said:
"Data, facts, evidence, analysis, reason, logic, etcetera"
Sure, here you go @MyI:

https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-study-2000-2013-1.pdf
FBI study on mass shootings 2000-2013.
"■In 37 incidents (23.1%), the shooter committed suicide at the scene before police
arrived.
■ In 21 incidents (13.1%), the situation ended after unarmed citizens safely and successfully restrained the shooter. In 2 of those incidents,24 3 off-duty law enforcement officers were present and assisted.
■ In 5 incidents (3.1%), the shooting ended after armed individuals who were not law enforcement personnel exchanged gunfire with the shooters. "
[the remaining 60.7% of incidents were stopped by police]

j7ORHMj_4T0GZLY_K2iZ1l4ApsoPJpwSbUR4Dc6uwS8.png


Conclusion: It is drastically unlikely that an armed civilian will stop a mass shooting and the amount of guns in any given area is proportional to the amount of gun violence that area sees. Unsurprisingly.
More guns =/= more safety.

Try and refute it if you want, nothing you can say makes facts go away.
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That's your "facts"? Seriously? Kinda hollow aren't they? They're true. I'll give you that. But what you fail to mention is WHY those statistics are what they are.

90% of mass shootings occurred in GUN FREE ZONES. Law abiding citizens do not carry firearms into GUN FREE ZONES. That's why these wack jobs target GUN FREE ZONES. Because they KNOW there will be less chance of someone stopping them in a GUN FREE ZONE. The wack jobs that commit these atrocities don't give a flying rodents rectum about your GUN FREE ZONES.

Yes, it IS drastically unlikely that an armed citizen will stop a mass shooting. That's because the LIBERAL solution was GUN FREE ZONES. Didn't stop ANY of them, did it? Nor does gun control stop violent crime. Ask Chicago. Or DC. Or Baltimore. NYC. Los Angeles.

Then ask Kennisaw, GA caused their crime rates to fall 80% across the board. Ask Ohio what happened when they passed concealed carry laws. Ask some prison inmates which they fear more, cops? or and armed victim?

Again you have no relevant facts. The Liberal's best argument so far has been, "I'm scared."
 
BTW: The shooter at the church outside San Antonio TX was subdued by a citizen with... OMG!! Can it be? Yes. It's true! An AR15.
 
Was the economy in shambles when Obama took over after 8 years of George W? Yes. We can easily prove that truth. Does Trump have ties to white supremacists? To porn stars? Prostitutes? A pedophile? Yes. We can prove all of those things. I get why you would want to put your fingers in your ears but truth must be proven.
 
Oliver_Klozoff said:
Truth: do all gun fetishists have small penises?

Or do they just all act like they do?
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And another truth: Liberals act like ignorant children.

Fetishists? That's an "ist" I haven't been called before. Amazing haw many labels the liberals give out when they are always saying, "Don't label me".

Small penises. LOL Go study Freud before you go misquoting him and then ask the rapidly growing number of women gun owners the same question.

Come back after you reach puberty.
 
I was not quoting Freud. And your post contained nothing that could be proven. Republican rebuttals are too often entirely
spun of namecalling and farce. If you really want truth, cut the logical fallacy and read up.
 
My I said:
That's your "facts"? Seriously? Kinda hollow aren't they? They're true. I'll give you that. But what you fail to mention is WHY those statistics are what they are.

90% of mass shootings occurred in GUN FREE ZONES. Law abiding citizens do not carry firearms into GUN FREE ZONES. That's why these wack jobs target GUN FREE ZONES. Because they KNOW there will be less chance of someone stopping them in a GUN FREE ZONE. The wack jobs that commit these atrocities don't give a flying rodents rectum about your GUN FREE ZONES.

Yes, it IS drastically unlikely that an armed citizen will stop a mass shooting. That's because the LIBERAL solution was GUN FREE ZONES. Didn't stop ANY of them, did it? Nor does gun control stop violent crime. Ask Chicago. Or DC. Or Baltimore. NYC. Los Angeles.

Then ask Kennisaw, GA caused their crime rates to fall 80% across the board. Ask Ohio what happened when they passed concealed carry laws. Ask some prison inmates which they fear more, cops? or and armed victim?

Again you have no relevant facts. The Liberal's best argument so far has been, "I'm scared."
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The US has between roughly 2 and 14+ times the murder rate of all modernized countries minus Russia despite actually having less crime overall, your crime is literally more violent and deadly than any other modernized country on Earth because of the amount of guns in circulation. There's literally nothing you can say that can somehow refute that.

If guns were harder to acquire there would be less gun homicides.

I know that's a difficult notion for you to wrap your head around but do try.
 
Good news, My I, I don't think too many liberals give a fig what you think of them. Feel free to just mind your own business.
 
Blue said:
The US has between roughly 2 and 14+ times the murder rate of all modernized countries minus Russia despite actually having less crime overall, your crime is literally more violent and deadly than any other modernized country on Earth because of the amount of guns in circulation. There's literally nothing you can say that can somehow refute that.

If guns were harder to acquire there would be less gun homicides.

I know that's a difficult notion for you to wrap your head around but do try.
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Here's a concept that is impossible for you to wrap your puny mind around:

CRIMINALS DON'T BUY GUNS LEGALLY!!!!

More than 70% of of gun crimes in the US are GANG or DRUG related. NOTthe average law abiding citizen. Another large percentage of gun homicide is suicide. But you Libs like to lump those in with the murders to jack your statistics up.

Stop trying to take away rights from law abiding citizens and deal with the real problems.

And you can quote your bullshit, hollow, meaningless factoids with no verification all you want. All you are really doing is showing how the Liberal's past gun control measures have FAILED. They fail because you are too fucking stupid to address the REAL FUCKING PROBLEM.

"Look our last bunch of gun control laws didn't do anything to stop gun violence! OH, My! We're gonna have to make some NEW laws that the criminals will ignore. And while we're at it we can villify all law enforcement to further hinder the enforcement of the useless laws we'll write. And we'll stand up for the criminals because they have RIGHTS, God dammit. We're not going to let ANYONE trample on those rights so we'll trample someone else's to make sure criminals can live their lives in peace."
 
Calling names and hurling insults is not on trend. Rise to the task of respectful debate like a proper gentleman or be confirmed as a batshit crazy guy yelling at people from the park bench which he has soiled without realizing it.

Fact: criminals buy guns via straw men in Texas or they steal them from the cars of paranoid yet careless Americans. Gun trafficking profits may well be higher than those attributable to hunting.
 
cherries_on_snow said:
Calling names and hurling insults is not on trend. Rise to the task of respectful debate like a proper gentleman or be confirmed as a batshit crazy guy yelling at people from the park bench which he has soiled without realizing it.

Fact: criminals buy guns via straw men in Texas or they steal them from the cars of paranoid yet careless Americans. Gun trafficking profits may well be higher than those attributable to hunting.
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So why do you do the same?

And until you cite your "facts", which you can't, because you are a liar. Just as you were proved to be in another forum.

Get off your soapbox professor.

What happened to those guns Barry and his program let out? Oh yeah, an American law enforcement officer died.
 
The elephant in the room is that the US has mass shootings regularly, and no other advanced nation has them except once in a great while.

For non-stupid people, the explanation for this for as long as it has been the case is that guns are readily available in the US as compared with every other advanced nation.

For stupid people, the explanation for this is a moving target that has gone from family breakdown to violent video games to rap music to lack of prayer in school to not enough people with guns, and it has probably cycled through this nonsense a couple times.

One thing that I've found to be generally true about the truth is that it doesn't tend to change.
 
cherries_on_snow said:
Calling names and hurling insults is not on trend. Rise to the task of respectful debate like a proper gentleman or be confirmed as a batshit crazy guy yelling at people from the park bench which he has soiled without realizing it.

Fact: criminals buy guns via straw men in Texas or they steal them from the cars of paranoid yet careless Americans. Gun trafficking profits may well be higher than those attributable to hunting.
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toeskr said:
So why do you do the same?

And until you cite your "facts", which you can't, because you are a liar. Just as you were proved to be in another forum.

Get off your soapbox professor.

What happened to those guns Barry and his program let out? Oh yeah, an American law enforcement officer died.
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See? You can't blame straw men in Texas, some guy named Barry is giving guns to criminals.
 
My I said:
Here's a concept that is impossible for you to wrap your puny mind around:

CRIMINALS DON'T BUY GUNS LEGALLY!!!!

More than 70% of of gun crimes in the US are GANG or DRUG related. NOTthe average law abiding citizen. Another large percentage of gun homicide is suicide. But you Libs like to lump those in with the murders to jack your statistics up.

Stop trying to take away rights from law abiding citizens and deal with the real problems.

And you can quote your bullshit, hollow, meaningless factoids with no verification all you want. All you are really doing is showing how the Liberal's past gun control measures have FAILED. They fail because you are too fucking stupid to address the REAL FUCKING PROBLEM.

"Look our last bunch of gun control laws didn't do anything to stop gun violence! OH, My! We're gonna have to make some NEW laws that the criminals will ignore. And while we're at it we can villify all law enforcement to further hinder the enforcement of the useless laws we'll write. And we'll stand up for the criminals because they have RIGHTS, God dammit. We're not going to let ANYONE trample on those rights so we'll trample someone else's to make sure criminals can live their lives in peace."
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So specifically how many dead kids is it going to take before you say guns should be regulated a bit more?
Can you actually put a number on it or is it more of a gradient?
 
cherries_on_snow said:
Calling names and hurling insults is not on trend. Rise to the task of respectful debate like a proper gentleman or be confirmed as a batshit crazy guy yelling at people from the park bench which he has soiled without realizing it.

Fact: criminals buy guns via straw men in Texas or they steal them from the cars of paranoid yet careless Americans. Gun trafficking profits may well be higher than those attributable to hunting.
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Fact: Straw man deals are rare because they cracked down on that years ago. Why did they crack down. Because it's illegal. Only criminals did that to sell guns to Mexican Drug Lords.

Again, get rid of the criminals and stop harassing people who have done no wrong.
 
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