We Are Having A National Emergency!

badbabysitter writes: "dude, over 90 per cent of illegal immigrants enter the country legally"

Yes, and the Democratic Party WANTS them here - they want to give them drivers' licenses and register them to vote. And yes, most Democrats VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE any form of voter-photo-ID laws that might deter foreign nationals from participating in American elections. The Democratic Party NEEDS new voters to replace those currently abandoning their party!

Did you know that Mitt Romney got more votes in 2012 than John McCain received in 2008, and Donald Trump received more popular votes in 2016 than Romney got in 2012. Yes, OF COURSE they keep getting more votes, as our nation's population increases by millions ever year, right? So HOW do you explain the ever-shrinking Democratic Party? Hillary received approximately 65,000 FEWER popular votes nationwide in 2016 than Obama received in 2012! And Obama in '12 received over three-&-a-half-million FEWER popular votes nationwide than 2008 Obama!

"...unless the wall has wheels and immigrant detection software its an insanely expensive failure"

When you write of "insanely expensive failures," I can't help but think of ObamaCare - and also America's public school system (and those big Teachers' Unions that contribute heavily to Democratic Party candidates!)

badbabysitter said:

unless the wall has wheels

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Bot, dump, racist joe, and racist dawn would love a wall on wheels! This way they could push it around on the playground and pretend they're Mr. Big Important President.

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phrodeau writes: "Which barrier design would you favor? Show me one that can't be defeated by a person armed with a shovel, ladder, rope and cordless reciprocating saw."

Alcatraz Island was as close to being inescapable as a prison could possibly get, phrodeau, yet in June of 1962 such an escape was successfully carried out by inmates Frank Morris, John Anglin, and Clarence Anglin. Alcatraz had walls, armed guards, and San Francisco Bay, and yet it was "still defeated," wasn't it?

So WHY do we continue to build prisons will walls that can be breached by people armed with shovels, ladders, ropes, etc.? Why not just accept that fact that some prison inmates will escape and stop trying to build something that works? You seem to believe that border security can NEVER be achieved, so we may as well allow illegals to pour into our country and begin voting for those Democrats promising them taxpayer-funded freebies!

Actually, our border walls are NOT the same as prison walls. They are an effort to keep people from openly violating our nation's immigration system. Despite the Democratic Party's constant admonitions that America is a racist, sexist nation run by a brutal tyrant, hundreds of thousands of black, hispanic, & white people from all over our planet want to come and live in Trump's America, entering here LEGALLY OR ILLEGALLY!

Meanwhile, NOBODY is trying to sneak into Cuba or Venezuela, where socialist government policies have been put in place forcing the wealthiest one-percent to pay their fair share! I repeat: Trump's America? YES! Socialist Cuba and socialist Venezuela? HELL, NO!

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I had no idea that prisoners were allowed to have shovels, ladders and rope, never mind power tools. What a world you live in.

I'll ask again. What kind of border barrier do you prefer? Land mines, maybe?

phrodeau said:

I had no idea that prisoners were allowed to have shovels, ladders and rope, never mind power tools. What a world you live in.

I'll ask again. What kind of border barrier do you prefer? Land mines, maybe?

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Poor dump also forgets that the punishment usually follows the crime.

Updated at 4:16 p.m. ET

The Republican-controlled Senate approved a resolution to terminate President Trump's national emergency declaration at the U.S.-Mexico border, putting Congress on a path to its first veto confrontation with the Trump administration.

Thursday's vote to block the president's emergency declaration

12 Republicans voted with all Senate Democrats to pass the resolution.

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/14/7033...ional-emergency-declaration-to-build-the-wall

By a 59-41 vote, with 12 Republicans voting with all 47 Democrats, the Senate today passed a resolution disapproving the president’s February national emergency declaration over the “border crisis” he claims justifies moving previously appropriated dollars around to fund his pet border wall.

Trump has repeatedly pledged to veto the resolution, which will be the first veto of his presidency.

The vote in favor of it in both chambers was well short of the two-thirds needed for a veto override, though the emergency declaration still faces significant legal challenges.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019...rump-emergency-declaration-by-big-margin.html

phrodeau writes: "I'll ask again. What kind of border barrier do you prefer? Land mines, maybe?"

"Land mines?" No, phrodeau - Mexico does NOT pose any kind of a military threat to the United States! Nobody I know is worried about the Mexican army crossing our border, or a reincarnated version of Pancho Villa once again attacking Columbus, New Mexico! No, we're talking about the tens of thousands of people illegally crossing into our country over areas where no border barriers currently exist!

I think that President Trump's current border wall proposal is a perfect fit, along with increased border security by agents of I.C.E. and the U.S. Border Patrol. Ignoring the crisis, and/or throwing your hands into the air and crying "nothing can be done" solves nothing. Neither will land mines.

dan_c00000 writes: "Poor dump also forgets that the punishment usually follows the crime."

And does "punishment follow the crime" in states like California, Dan - where illegals are issued drivers' licenses and tax-payer-funded entitlements, and then urged to vote Democrat so that they'll be allowed to stay? Seriously, WHY are modern Democrats so afraid of voter-photo-ID laws?

bodysong adds: "Trump has repeatedly pledged to veto the resolution, which will be the first veto of his presidency."

Exactly right! And there's NO WAY that border wall opponents will come up with enough votes to override the president's veto. The wall will be built!

The rare rebuke from members of his own party was symbolically important, but Congress does not have the votes to overturn Trump’s veto.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e9-aaf8-4512a6fe3439_story.html?noredirect=on

bodysong said:

The rare rebuke from members of his own party was symbolically important, but Congress does not have the votes to overturn Trump’s veto.

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It's a start of "Hey, we can do this."

The last hope for the Democrats is the Supreme Court. I’m sure Bret Kavanaugh still remembers which party tried to destroy his career.

Kant

Kantarii said:

The last hope for the Democrats is the Supreme Court. I’m sure Bret Kavanaugh still remembers which party tried to destroy his career.

Kant

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Which is why there's real hope for him to be impeached once the Dems get the Senate back. The man isn't going to grow up or learn any responsibility any time soon.

YDB95 said:

The man isn't going to grow up or learn any responsibility any time soon.

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Which makes him Kant's kind a guy.

^^^^ says the guy on a crusade that has me on ignore because I dont share his political views.

bodysong writes: "The rare rebuke from members of his own party was symbolically important, but Congress does not have the votes to overturn Trump’s veto."

Trump ran against the establishment Republicans in 2016. And no, his border-wall opponents today do NOT have near-enough votes to override his presidential veto!

KeithD writes: "It's a start of "Hey, we can do this.""

Perhaps the Democratic Party can get George Soros & ANTIFA involved? And if George Soros & Antifa can't win over the hearts & minds of the American people then NOBODY can!

Kantarii writes: "The last hope for the Democrats is the Supreme Court. I’m sure Bret Kavanaugh still remembers which party tried to destroy his career"

The incredibly clumsy way in which the Senate Democrats attempted to destroy Kavanaugh's life & career played a major role in their party's losing an additional two senate seats in the 2018 elections. That's going to haunt them BIG TIME when Ruth Bader-Ginsburg finally departs the U.S. Supreme Court and President Trump names her replacement!

YDB95 writes: " Which is why there's real hope for him to be impeached once the Dems get the Senate back. The man isn't going to grow up or learn any responsibility any time soon."

Getting the Senate back wouldn't be near enough. The Democrats would need to get it back with a two-thirds majority to have enough votes to remove Trump from office, and that's NEVER going to happen! It's far more likely that the Dems lose the U.S. House in 2020 for wasting so much time investigating this president over stupid things like Russia-collusion (which never happened!)

Ann Coulter
@AnnCoulter

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EVERY ONE of these problems would be fixed with a wall.
JP Morgan CEO Jamie Dimon: "40% of Americans make
less than $15/hr. 40% of Americans can't afford a $400 bill...
15% of Americans make minimum wages,
70k die from opioids."

1:10 PM - 18 Mar 2019

Evan Hurst
Evan Hurst
@EvanHurst Replying to @AnnCoulter

Literally none of that has anything to do with a wall, jackass

1:22 PM - 18 Mar 2019

bodysong writes: "Literally none of that has anything to do with a wall, jackass"

The modern Democratic Party doesn't want a border wall built for the same reason Democrats dislike voter-photo-ID laws, and that's because their party greatly benefits when people sneak in here and then vote illegally! By offering illegal non-citizens taxpayer-funded freebies in exchange for their votes, the Democrats have shown that they can increase the voter turn-out of non-citizens!

Case in point: Hillary won 64,855 fewer popular votes nationwide than Barack Obama won in 2012!

65,918,507 (votes won by Barack Obama in 2012)
65,853,652 (votes won by Hillary Clinton in 2016)

But look at what happened in the state of California, where Hillary won 899,507 MORE votes than Obama captured there four years earlier!

8,753,792 (Hillary's 2016 popular vote total in California)
7,854,285 (Obama's 2012 popular vote total in California)

So HOW is it that Obama got more votes nationwide than Mrs. Clinton, but Hillary somehow LANDSLIDED Barack in the state of California? Was Obama really THAT unpopular in the Golden State? Or did a whole lot of NEW VOTERS show up to vote in 2016 who hadn't been living there four years earlier?

Dumpington said:

bodysong writes: "Literally none of that has anything to do with a wall, jackass"

The modern Democratic Party doesn't want a border wall built for the same reason Democrats dislike voter-photo-ID laws, and that's because their party greatly benefits when people sneak in here and then vote illegally! By offering illegal non-citizens taxpayer-funded freebies in exchange for their votes, the Democrats have shown that they can increase the voter turn-out of non-citizens!

Case in point: Hillary won 64,855 fewer popular votes nationwide than Barack Obama won in 2012!

65,918,507 (votes won by Barack Obama in 2012)
65,853,652 (votes won by Hillary Clinton in 2016)

But look at what happened in the state of California, where Hillary won 899,507 MORE votes than Obama captured there four years earlier!

8,753,792 (Hillary's 2016 popular vote total in California)
7,854,285 (Obama's 2012 popular vote total in California)

So HOW is it that Obama got more votes nationwide than Mrs. Clinton, but Hillary somehow LANDSLIDED Barack in the state of California? Was Obama really THAT unpopular in the Golden State? Or did a whole lot of NEW VOTERS show up to vote in 2016 who hadn't been living there four years earlier?

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Umm You know of course this makes no sense. Democrats run against Republicans in final presidential elections. You are talking about two different elections with two different candidates who were running against two different people. California has over 17 million registered voters. They don't need new voters to get 8 million ballots. They just need those people that are registered to show up and vote. More people are registered as Democrats than Republicans so of course the Democrats are most likely to win elections.

sharingfantasies writes: "California has over 17 million registered voters. They don't need new voters to get 8 million ballots. They just need those people that are registered to show up and vote."

Yes, and I get all that. I'm just wondering HOW is it that a supposedly popular Democratic president like Barack Obama would actually get close to sixty-five-thousand MORE popular votes than Hillary Clinton nationwide, but then do so much POORER than Mrs. Clinton in that one state: California? Hillary bested him in that one state by nearly 900-thousand votes in an election where she did so much worse nationwide!

Granted, it's highly unusual for a candidate nowadays to receive fewer votes than a candidate from four years earlier - I mean, our nation's population grows by millions every year, correct? But not only did Hillary in 2016 receive fewer votes than Obama in 2012, but Barack's 2012 total was 3,580,921 FEWER than what he received in 2008! It's like the Democratic Party is steadily SHRINKING for some unexplained reason!

69,499,428 (Barack Obama's 2008 popular vote total)
65,918,507 (Barack Obama's 2012 popular vote total)

So WHERE exactly did those three-&-a-half million Obama voters go?

"More people are registered as Democrats than Republicans so of course the Democrats are most likely to win elections."

But not presidential elections. In the last fifty-years, Republican candidates have won the White House seven times; the Democrats five times. It's one of the reason why modern Democrats are trying to register illegals to vote, block voter-photo-ID laws, welcome thousands more Islamic migrants, and even attempting to lower the voting age to sixteen. They are desperately seeking new voters!

Somebody is dumping a ton again.

phrodeau writes: "Somebody is dumping a ton again."

Very clever, phrodeau... "dumpington a ton" - I get it. haha

But I'd love to hear your explanation for President Obama receiving over three-&-a-half million FEWER votes in 2012 than he got in 2008! Where did they all go? And WHY did Hillary in 2016 get even fewer votes than Obama '12?

It's not entirely unusual for a president running for re-election to receive fewer votes the second time around. Jimmy Carter went from 40.8-million votes in '76 to only 35.5-million in 1980. And Bush-41 went from 48.9-million in '88 to a dismal 39.1-million in 1992. But Carter & Bush both LOST their re-election bids (and both had to contend with serious third-party challengers!) President Obama had none of that in 2012!

When Nixon successfully ran for re-election in '72, he increased his popular vote total from 31.8-million to 47.2-million! Reagan jumped from 43.9 in '80 to 54.4 in '84. Bill Clinton had a modest increase from 44.9 to 47.4, while Bush-43 (e.g. Dubya) jumped from 50.5 to 62.0 in just four years! So HOW do you explain Barack's drop from 69.5 to 65.9? WHERE exactly did those Obama voters go?

Dumpington said:

phrodeau writes: "Somebody is dumping a ton again."

Very clever, phrodeau... "dumpington a ton" - I get it. haha

But I'd love to hear your explanation for President Obama receiving over three-&-a-half million FEWER votes in 2012 than he got in 2008! Where did they all go? And WHY did Hillary in 2016 get even fewer votes than Obama '12?

It's not entirely unusual for a president running for re-election to receive fewer votes the second time around. Jimmy Carter went from 40.8-million votes in '76 to only 35.5-million in 1980. And Bush-41 went from 48.9-million in '88 to a dismal 39.1-million in 1992. But Carter & Bush both LOST their re-election bids (and both had to contend with serious third-party challengers!) President Obama had none of that in 2012!

When Nixon successfully ran for re-election in '72, he increased his popular vote total from 31.8-million to 47.2-million! Reagan jumped from 43.9 in '80 to 54.4 in '84. Bill Clinton had a modest increase from 44.9 to 47.4, while Bush-43 (e.g. Dubya) jumped from 50.5 to 62.0 in just four years! So HOW do you explain Barack's drop from 69.5 to 65.9? WHERE exactly did those Obama voters go?

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Third-party candidates. Are you really so partisan that you can't fathom more than two sides?

Fewer votes could come from people staying at home instead of going out to vote, thinking there isn’t anyone on the opposing party capable of beating the sitting president. To a lesser degree, people saying fuck it, neither side has anyone deserving of my vote - so it is what it is. Kant

"More people are registered as Democrats than Republicans so of course the Democrats are most likely to win elections."

But not presidential elections. In the last fifty-years, Republican candidates have won the White House seven times; the Democrats five times. It's one of the reason why modern Democrats are trying to register illegals to vote, block voter-photo-ID laws, welcome thousands more Islamic migrants, and even attempting to lower the voting age to sixteen. They are desperately seeking new voters!

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I was specifically talking about California since that is what you seemed to be talking about.

Donald Trump erroneously says Lordstown workers could have saved plant by lowering union dues

Cost of Wall

If Trump’s declaration of a national emergency holds up in court, his proposed border wall would siphon off more than $100 million from Ohio, though the Lima plant would be unaffected.

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tRump pumps his fists as he arrives to deliver remarks at the Lima Army Tank Plant, Wednesday, March 20, 2019, in Lima, Ohio.

Republicans sat by Trump’s side at the Lima tank plant while he went after the auto workers. Ohio Lt. Gov. Jon Husted, U.S. Sen. Rob Portman and U.S. Reps. Mike Turner, Warren Davidson and Jim Jordan were all in attendance.

Wednesday’s appearance wasn’t supposed to be a political event and it often showed. His attacks were often met with only half-hearted enthusiasm and even outright silence from the audience, a far cry from his campaign rallies where throngs of supporters praise his every word.


After Trump left Lima, he traveled to North Canton for a high-dollar fundraiser. Tickets started at $2,800 for the reception. A picture with Trump cost $15,000, while dinner cost $50,000 per person.

One Democrat noted that the $50,000 price for dinner is only about $3,000 less than the median household income of Lordstown.

https://www.cleveland.com/politics/2019/03/donald-trump-in-lima.html

(tRump had to have justification for using Air Force 1 to pick up "campaign cash." Closed venue, private property, for tRump's venting/decompression session disguised as public service ?)

“Northeast Ohio is set to lose more than $3 billion in economic activity, and what is the President doing to help? He attacked union leaders like Dave Green, who are fighting hard to save this plant and standing up for its employees,” said Ryan, who is considering a run for president. “His disrespect toward Dave is disgraceful.”

Yes, the same rally, where tRump kicked the corpse of Sen. John McCain, for not thanking tRump for giving McCain a funeral.

Dumpington said:

Yes, and the Democratic Party WANTS them here - they want to give them drivers' licenses and register them to vote. And yes, most Democrats VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE any form of voter-photo-ID laws that might deter foreign nationals from participating in American elections. The Democratic Party NEEDS new voters to replace those currently abandoning their party!

Did you know that Mitt Romney got more votes in 2012 than John McCain received in 2008, and Donald Trump received more popular votes in 2016 than Romney got in 2012. Yes, OF COURSE they keep getting more votes, as our nation's population increases by millions ever year, right? So HOW do you explain the ever-shrinking Democratic Party? Hillary received approximately 65,000 FEWER popular votes nationwide in 2016 than Obama received in 2012! And Obama in '12 received over three-&-a-half-million FEWER popular votes nationwide than 2008 Obama!

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So why did Hillary get 2million more votes in 2016, and the Dems get 8 million more votes during the midterms?

Having your numbers go up 400 per cent doesnt sound like declining

Dumpington said:

When you write of "insanely expensive failures," I can't help but think of ObamaCare - and also America's public school system (and those big Teachers' Unions that contribute heavily to Democratic Party candidates!)

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Dude, the Rapepublican party historically are the ones that have always tried gutting the education system; its a matter of record. Unions dont contribute a tenth as much conservative PACS

And Obamacare, really? Youre comparing something that though a clusterfuck has literally helped millions to a wall that all the experts say is a waste of money

DCist
DCist
@DCist

It took the better part of a year to make it happen,
but the Caps are headed to the White House to
celebrate their Stanley Cup victory.

7:27 PM - 19 Mar 2019

Why are they having it on Monday ?