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"Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back," he tweeted.

That was Georgia Lieutenant Governor Casey Cagle talking about Delta airlines, who, along with several other corporations, have severed ties with the NRA. As a result, the Georgia legislature is reconsidering a bill which would have eliminated a state tax break on jet fuel.

Georgia's House of Representatives voted in favor of the legislation last week. It also won over Republican Governor Nathan Deal, who called the measure an important part of the state's tax reform plan that would "keep Georgia competitive as a major international hub of commerce."

That is until Delta decided to be neutral in the ongoing gun debate. Now that Delta has "attacked" conservatives, that portion of the bill may be scuttled.

Rick Jeffares, a Republican who is running for lieutenant governor, also criticized the airline.

"Delta is now seeking a $40 MILLION TAX BREAK from the Georgia Legislature," he posted on his campaign website. "Should Delta be rewarded for their attack on the NRA? I say "NO!"​

Apparently all those other tax breaks, costing the taxpayers of Georgia hundreds of millions of dollars each year are perfectly fine, just not this one because the airline, the one with the largest hub in the state, decided it didn't want to endorse one particular organization. The tax break was a great way to keep it competitive as a major international hub of commerce last week, but not this week.

Yes, fascism is alive and well when the government dictates who wins and loses. Nothing says smaller government than telling a corporation who they must associate with.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/26/news/companies/delta-nra-georgia-republican/index.html
 
Hey if you want to know what it is like to live under a bunch of Fascists pigs come to California. The governor is called a Space Cadet (he was forced out of office a long time ago and had to wait for a new breed of snow flakes to get back in office) and is a puppet. We pay a member of Obama's corrupt Administration to run the state and go from state to state on tax payer money to destroy their governments. The state is at war with the middle class and the poor and unless you are a criminal, a drug lord, members of street gangs and a foreign criminal you have no rights here.

George Soros tells the corrupt in the forbidden city (our capital) what to do. As a former Nazi he believes in a one world rule and that only a two class system like in the middle ages should exists. Similar to what the Terrorist want for the world.

Georgia is a free state and welcomes all Americans. California does not.
 
someoneyouknow said:
"Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back," he tweeted.

That was Georgia Lieutenant Governor Casey Cagle talking about Delta airlines, who, along with several other corporations, have severed ties with the NRA. As a result, the Georgia legislature is reconsidering a bill which would have eliminated a state tax break on jet fuel.

Georgia's House of Representatives voted in favor of the legislation last week. It also won over Republican Governor Nathan Deal, who called the measure an important part of the state's tax reform plan that would "keep Georgia competitive as a major international hub of commerce."

That is until Delta decided to be neutral in the ongoing gun debate. Now that Delta has "attacked" conservatives, that portion of the bill may be scuttled.

Rick Jeffares, a Republican who is running for lieutenant governor, also criticized the airline.

"Delta is now seeking a $40 MILLION TAX BREAK from the Georgia Legislature," he posted on his campaign website. "Should Delta be rewarded for their attack on the NRA? I say "NO!"​

Apparently all those other tax breaks, costing the taxpayers of Georgia hundreds of millions of dollars each year are perfectly fine, just not this one because the airline, the one with the largest hub in the state, decided it didn't want to endorse one particular organization. The tax break was a great way to keep it competitive as a major international hub of commerce last week, but not this week.

Yes, fascism is alive and well when the government dictates who wins and loses. Nothing says smaller government than telling a corporation who they must associate with.

http://money.cnn.com/2018/02/26/news/companies/delta-nra-georgia-republican/index.html
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1) How the fuck do tax breaks cost tax payers? :confused:

2)Government dictating who wins and loses or who it must associate with is not fascism any more than it is socialism.

Now bake that gay wedding cake and like it or else!!! ;)

3) It's not dictating.....it's dangling incentive. Not really the same thing...unless highly partisan who's outrage over that behavior depends on the letter in front of the pol who's doing it. :D
 
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urguyscott said:
Hey if you want to know what it is like to live under a bunch of Fascists pigs come to California.
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Once again....not fascists.....


Here, let's help this thread out.

Definition of fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism
 
You need to get a dictionary and look up fascist. You and the rest of Antifa don't have a fucking clue what it means.

Typical teeny bopper liberal, dumb as shit and too fucking dumb to know it.
 
BotanyBoy said:
1) How the fuck do tax breaks cost tax payers? :confused:
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Lost revenue. It has to be made up somewhere and that somewhere is higher taxes on the taxpayers.

2)Government dictating who wins and loses or who it must associate with is not fascism any more than it is socialism.
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with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies​

Georgia is also one of many states which prohibit Tesla from selling its cars directly to the public. Have to have a dealership. Thus, a protectionist policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Now bake that gay wedding cake and like it or else!!! ;)
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Discrimination is something we should aspire to? To use a phrase, the poor snowflake got offended someone wasn't just like them and threw a tantrum.

3) It's not dictating.....it's dangling incentive. Not really the same thing...unless highly partisan who's outrage over that behavior depends on the letter in front of the pol who's doing it. :D
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See your own number 2 above.
 
someoneyouknow said:
Lost revenue. It has to be made up somewhere and that somewhere is higher taxes on the taxpayers.
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Tax breaks doesn't cost tax payers....taxing cost tax payers.

The only way to not cost tax payers is to not tax them.

someoneyouknow said:
with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
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Yea that's not fitting the bill at all.

someoneyouknow said:
Georgia is also one of many states which prohibit Tesla from selling its cars directly to the public. Have to have a dealership. Thus, a protectionist policy.
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That's not protectionist policy when (D) does it!! Like with Uber......

It's "SENSIBLE REGULATION!!!, not protectionist policy.

Or is protectionist policy only "sensible regulation" when (D)'s are doing it??

someoneyouknow said:
Discrimination is something we should aspire to?
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You can't have it both ways bubba and no amount of perceived righteousness changes the basic behavior. ;)

Either you want government dictating who companies associate with and how or you don't and you support freedom of association.

Do you support freedom of association or not?
 
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BotanyBoy said:
Tax breaks doesn't cost tax payers....taxing cost tax payers.

The only way to not cost tax payers is to not tax them.
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Are you well?
What do you think happens if you were to stop taxation? The benefits from taxation far outweigh my personal financial repercussions from paying them.

If you don't consider the collapse of a fair and organized society a 'cost' to the taxpayers due to the lost public revenue then put your money where your mouth is and move to rural Libya where there's no taxes and ipso facto no government.
 
Blue said:
Are you well?
What do you think happens if you were to stop taxation? The benefits from taxation far outweigh my personal financial repercussions from paying them.

If you don't consider the collapse of a fair and organized society a 'cost' to the taxpayers due to the lost public revenue then put your money where your mouth is and move to rural Libya where there's no taxes and ipso facto no government.
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Quite, thank you and yourself?

I wasn't discussing the virtues of taxation, just the mechanics of it.

The only thing that cost taxpayers more is more taxes.

When the government takes less from you, it costs you less, not more.



That being said I'd like to point out that our society is neither fair nor organized.
 
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BotanyBoy said:
Quite, thank you and yourself?

I wasn't discussing the virtues of taxation, just the mechanics of it.

The only thing that cost taxpayers more is more taxes.

When the government takes less from you, it costs you less, not more.



That being said I'd like to point out that our society is neither fair nor organized.
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Unless of course you're a recipient of any kind of federal social security which have all had their budgets slashed dramatically in an attempt to avoid an inescapable spiral of debt spending caused by the tax cuts.

Y'know, the kind that the poorest fifth of Americans are on who are now facing an >8% percent cut in their income due to loss of government benefits.

However, if we want to be dishonest and reductionist and only look exclusively at how the TCAJ act affects peoples income (up until they expire for everybody earning under 70k a year that is) and totally ignore their real life repercussions then yes they reduce people's overall costs.

My god you're so dumb if you think fiscal policy is so neat and black-and-white.
 
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Is (x,y,z) fascist? There is never a single answer, because there is never a single agreed-upon definition. Not only are there arguments about how to define it, it relies on concepts like "regimentation" that are themselves debatable (i.e. Bitter Boy quibbling about protectionism vs. regulation, etc.)

Oxford English Dictionary:

1. An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

2. (in general use) extreme authoritarian, oppressive, or intolerant views or practices.

The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43); the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach
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Definitions of fascism - Wikpedia

Here's a nice intro.

What constitutes a definition of fascism and fascist governments has been a complicated and highly disputed subject concerning the exact nature of fascism and its core tenets debated amongst historians, political scientists, and other scholars since Benito Mussolini first used the term in 1915.
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If you ask experts on Fascism, "Is Donald Trump a Fascist" the answer is always, "In some ways yes, in some ways no."

Is he a full-blown fascist, or only in his mind? Is he quasi, proto, wanna be fascist? Is he just an asshole?

Anyone who comes on here like Bitter Boy asserting he and he alone will say what fascism is or isn't is trying to be a fascist and is full of shit.




Wikipedia:
 
Blue said:
Unless of course you're a recipient of any kind of federal social security

However, if we want to be dishonest and reductionist and only look exclusively at how the TCAJ act affects peoples income (up until they expire for everybody earning under 70k a year that is) and totally ignore their real life repercussions then yes they reduce people's overall costs.
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Wealth redistribution, class and fairness have fuck all to do with costs incurred via taxation.

No amount of unfairness nor inequality makes a tax break (less cost incursion to taxpayers from the government) actually a cost incursion. It doesn't matter if 99% of the state was fucking STARVING to death or you had total communistic equality. Raising taxes would still be raising costs to taxpayers and tax breaks would still be lowering them.

Tax breaks don't cost taxpayers more.....that's some retarded lefty idiocy you have to do near lethal amounts of PCP to buy into.

Blue said:
My god you're so dumb if you think fiscal policy is so neat and black-and-white.
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It's not fiscal policy....it's taxation mechanics.

If the government gives you a tax break, your tax costs go DOWN, not up.

Carnal_Flower said:
Is (x,y,z) fascist? There is never a single answer, because there is never a single agreed-upon definition. Not only are there arguments about how to define it, it relies on concepts like "regimentation" that are themselves debatable (i.e. Bitter Boy quibbling about protectionism vs. regulation, etc.)
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No, but the bullshit they were trying to call "fascism" wasn't even in the same fucking ballpark and was considered progress when a (D) was doing the same shit.

Carnal_Flower said:
Anyone who comes on here like Bitter Boy asserting he and he alone will say what fascism is or isn't is trying to be a fascist and is full of shit.
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Quote me doing anything of the sort.....you can't post without lying can you?
 
I see confusion over the meaning of 'fascism' because it's not so simple. I'll distinguish ECONOMIC from POLITICAL fascism.

ECONOMIC fascism fits Mussolini's definition: “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” In socialism, government owns corporations. In fascism, corporations own government. By this measure, USA has been a fascist state for quite awhile.

POLITICAL fascism is the picture we see of goose-stepping stormtroopers enforcing the authoritarian regime. I don't limit it to the right-wing; authoritarian left-wing regimes are just as fascist. The color of the jackboot crushing your larynx doesn't matter.

Is Tromp a fascist? ECONOMIC: definitely. POLITICAL: trending that way. More Mussolini:
Fascism... believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace. It thus repudiates the doctrine of Pacifism -- born of a renunciation of the struggle and an act of cowardice in the face of sacrifice. War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the peoples who have courage to meet it. All other trials are substitutes, which never really put men into the position where they have to make the great decision -- the alternative of life or death....
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Fascism requires perpetual war. Perpetual slaughter. Is that a good idea? Y'all might want to do a little slaughtering yourselves. Would you mind being slaughtered? Why not?
 
BotanyBoy said:
Freedom of speech doesn't make you correct. ;)
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Well if you spew the same bullshit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over it starts to become reality for you. Annoying as all fuck for anyone with an IQ higher than 30.

But hey, Everyone is entitled to their own definition of what reality is, right? I mean, for me, if it looks like bullshit, sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit and squishes like bullshit, then it must be bullshit. Where as liberals say, "I saw it in a meme on twitter so it MUST be true."
 
Hypoxia said:
I see confusion over the meaning of 'fascism' because it's not so simple. I'll distinguish ECONOMIC from POLITICAL fascism.
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Can't have one without the other so no, you wont. ;)

My I said:
Well if you spew the same bullshit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over it starts to become reality for you. Annoying as all fuck for anyone with an IQ higher than 30.

But hey, Everyone is entitled to their own definition of what reality is, right? I mean, for me, if it looks like bullshit, sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit and squishes like bullshit, then it must be bullshit. Where as liberals say, "I saw it in a meme on twitter so it MUST be true."
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Everyone loves to toss their favorite buzzwords about.

Watch, some (D) will take office, do the exact same shit as Trump did....let's just say it's another Carrier deal but for some (D) friendly corporation right?

The (R)'s will wail like it's the Bolshevik revolution or some shit and get into contests to see who can drop "communism", "Liberals" and "socialist" as many times in a post as possible.
 
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PLus two things:

1. Nationalism that is built on xenophobia and racism. He was a fascist the minute he came down from Trump Tower and started talking about banning Muslims. It's all been downhill since.

2. He's a Mussolini-type who makes no distinction between his own personal ego and the nation-state. In his putrid brain they are the same thing, i.e. Democrats who don't clap for him are "treasonous." Standing in front of the CIA and bitching about his crowd size as if that is the ultimate concern of our national.
security. People who hate him "hate America."

He has yet to register the fact that he's President of a democracy and not a fascist dictatorship.



Hypoxia said:
I see confusion over the meaning of 'fascism' because it's not so simple. I'll distinguish ECONOMIC from POLITICAL fascism.

ECONOMIC fascism fits Mussolini's definition: “Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” In socialism, government owns corporations. In fascism, corporations own government. By this measure, USA has been a fascist state for quite awhile.

POLITICAL fascism is the picture we see of goose-stepping stormtroopers enforcing the authoritarian regime. I don't limit it to the right-wing; authoritarian left-wing regimes are just as fascist. The color of the jackboot crushing your larynx doesn't matter.

Is Tromp a fascist? ECONOMIC: definitely. POLITICAL: trending that way. More Mussolini:
Fascism requires perpetual war. Perpetual slaughter. Is that a good idea? Y'all might want to do a little slaughtering yourselves. Would you mind being slaughtered? Why not?
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Right.

After 30 years of bitching about Hillary Clinton.

Years upon years of E-MAILS and BENGHAZI

Get back to us in another 30 and start complaining.

You haven't seen anything as far as Trump hatred and resistance, you whiney snowflake.

The man is going to be ground up and pulverized into dust, after he's perp-walked out of the White House.

My I said:
Well if you spew the same bullshit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over it starts to become reality for you. Annoying as all fuck for anyone with an IQ higher than 30.

But hey, Everyone is entitled to their own definition of what reality is, right? I mean, for me, if it looks like bullshit, sounds like bullshit, smells like bullshit and squishes like bullshit, then it must be bullshit. Where as liberals say, "I saw it in a meme on twitter so it MUST be true."
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Carnal_Flower said:
People who hate him "hate America."
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That's generally speaking true.....just look at you.

Hypoxia and LT are probably the only people on the board who hate the USA as much as you.

You want to abolish nearly every civil right, get rid of capitalism, eleminate nearly all individual liberty, consider patriotism racist nationalism.

Is there ANYTHING about the USA that you do like??

Carnal_Flower said:
He has yet to register the fact that he's President of a democracy and not a fascist dictatorship.
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LOL...the USA is not a democracy you ignorant twat waffle.

Did you not take civics in school or were you just not paying attention?
 
Please. You have yet to hear me go off on what I really think of that dickhead. One of these days I will.

Sorry, I don't accept the equation. Trump does not equal the USA. Trump is a President, not "the country." Two different things--get it?

But noted that you think he is: that makes you a Trumptard and a fascist, congrats!

BotanyBoy said:
That's generally speaking true.....just look at you.

Hypoxia and LT are probably the only people on the board who hate the USA as much as you.

You want to abolish nearly every civil right, get rid of capitalism, eleminate nearly all individual liberty, consider patriotism racist nationalism.

Is there ANYTHING about the USA that you do like??



LOL...the USA is not a democracy you ignorant twat waffle.

Did you not take civics in school or were you just not paying attention?
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Carnal_Flower said:
Please. You have yet to hear me go off on what I really think of that dickhead. One of these days I will.

Sorry, I don't accept the equation. Trump does not equal the USA. Trump is a President, not "the country." Two different things--get it?
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I didn't say that he is....READING!!! You obviously have serious challenges with it.....get it???

Your illiteracy and or dishonesty don't line up.

The fact still stands.

You hate Trump, you also hate the USA and pretty much every principal it was founded upon and allegedly stands for, just like most foaming at the mouth anti-Trumpers.

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But noted that you think he is: that makes you a Trumptard and a fascist, congrats!
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I do? Citation?

Oh that's right you're just making shit up....AGAIN.

Probably to deflect from the fact that Trump is right about that point, people who spend their days hating him ......also seem to be the same people who hate the USA the most.

My only question is why don't you people leave? :confused:
 
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Carnal_Flower said:
Is (x,y,z) fascist? There is never a single answer, because there is never a single agreed-upon definition. Not only are there arguments about how to define it, it relies on concepts like "regimentation" that are themselves debatable (i.e. Bitter Boy quibbling about protectionism vs. regulation, etc.)



Definitions of fascism - Wikpedia

Here's a nice intro.



If you ask experts on Fascism, "Is Donald Trump a Fascist" the answer is always, "In some ways yes, in some ways no."

Is he a full-blown fascist, or only in his mind? Is he quasi, proto, wanna be fascist? Is he just an asshole?

Anyone who comes on here like Bitter Boy asserting he and he alone will say what fascism is or isn't is trying to be a fascist and is full of shit.




Wikipedia:
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Carnal_Flower said:
Freedom of speech: Trump is a fucking fascist!
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Carnal_Flower said:
PLus two things:

1. Nationalism that is built on xenophobia and racism. He was a fascist the minute he came down from Trump Tower and started talking about banning Muslims. It's all been downhill since.

2. He's a Mussolini-type who makes no distinction between his own personal ego and the nation-state. In his putrid brain they are the same thing, i.e. Democrats who don't clap for him are "treasonous." Standing in front of the CIA and bitching about his crowd size as if that is the ultimate concern of our national.
security. People who hate him "hate America."

He has yet to register the fact that he's President of a democracy and not a fascist dictatorship.
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Carnal_Flower said:
Right.

After 30 years of bitching about Hillary Clinton.

Years upon years of E-MAILS and BENGHAZI

Get back to us in another 30 and start complaining.

You haven't seen anything as far as Trump hatred and resistance, you whiney snowflake.

The man is going to be ground up and pulverized into dust, after he's perp-walked out of the White House.
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Carnal_Flower said:
Please. You have yet to hear me go off on what I really think of that dickhead. One of these days I will.

Sorry, I don't accept the equation. Trump does not equal the USA. Trump is a President, not "the country." Two different things--get it?

But noted that you think he is: that makes you a Trumptard and a fascist, congrats!
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:rolleyes:

We already know what you think. You've made that perfectly clear over and over and over and - oh,wait - there's another over coming.
 
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