I've changed my mind about the Electoral College
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Democrats are susceptible to left wing folklore about the Electoral College. So sad to see the many evolutionary failures of their kind.
No they shouldnt. You then have California and New York deciding elections. If you take out the new york and california voters and Trump wins by at least 2 million votes.
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On a post like this you really should check your grammar twice.
And, no, it is usually the well educated who consider the abolition of the electoral college. Those who never went to college rarely know it exists or how it operates.
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Except they didn't.
You just don't have a decent argument as to why it's outdated.
So basically, shut up about it, you're stupid....enjoy your Romneycare sucker.
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That, of course, is the argument that put it in place to begin with. But, no, you have equal vote strength then. People can choose where to live. They shouldn't have their vote devalued in a representative democracy just because they live in a populous state--and they shouldn't have their vote augmented just because they live in a rural area in Iowa.
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No they don't, they understand there is a reason we give voice to more than 3-4 states in how the country is run.
Unlike the fucking morons who can't come up with a single argument as to why it's "outdated" or wrong.
Unless they made it through the 8th grade......
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Leaving aside that the statement "Trump would have won easily if you just left out the places that didn't vote for him" is both true and totally meaningless, you're making the assumption here is that everyone in California and New York thinks and votes the same way.
Get rid of the Electoral College, and all of a sudden California Republicans and Utah Democrats become relevant, whereas now they aren't.
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And would not explain how the popular vote is not how the electoral college is better? Hey I agree mob rule is a bad idea but is the college any better?
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Districts are based upon population. When population moves to California they get more districts and when Californians move to Texas, then California loses districts and Texas gains. This is why the continual Progressive-Democrat consternation over the census and gerrymandering.
This makes your point a fallacious point.
The only dilution occurs because of population growth and the limit on districts. Your Representatives in the House no longer wonder about individual voters, they have too many. They only pay attention to the money. This is one of the mistakes Hillary made. She spent too much time raising celebrity and corporate cash, because you know, money wins elections (ask JEB!) and decided that she didn't need to go woo the basketful of deplorables in rural and blue-collar America, which is why you are wailing about the Electoral College. Trump went out to those people and convinced them that he cared.
In short, y'alls problem was not the EC, but the coronation of the worst candidate that the Democrats had run in generations. Your problem is not with the Constitution, but your party.
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Of course it is, without it, New York and Los Angeles would elect every President. Nobody else in American would matter.
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As we saw in the last election, it rewarded the candidate who paid attention to the lesser states and punished the candidate only concerned with the coastal elite and large Democrat-controlled cities.
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Yes.
It tempers what is so bad about mob rule.
It gives a voice to the other 44-45 states that don't have numerous and or an uber sized population/money center and tempers the voice of those that do.
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I have found that those most enamored of mob rule are those so arrogant that they feel they will always be on the right side. But when California's "mob" voted to preserve traditional marriage, the aggrieved minority ran straight to the tyranny of the ultimate minority, the courts...
~~ ducks and runs ~~
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Well....you going to get specific at any point ??
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I have found that those most enamored of mob rule are those so arrogant that they feel they will always be on the right side. But when California's "mob" voted to preserve traditional marriage, the aggrieved minority ran straight to the tyranny of the ultimate minority, the courts...
~~ ducks and runs ~~
No need to duck and run from an absolute truth that Democrats love to use the politically corrupted courts to advance agenda items that cannot be pursued through the democratic legislative process.
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Ooh, agenda items are being advanced by politically corrupted courts?No need to duck and run from an absolute truth that Democrats love to use the politically corrupted courts to advance agenda items that cannot be pursued through the democratic legislative process.
Which agenda items are being advanced? What's on the rest of that agenda?
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This is probably the dumbest thing I've read this morning. Well done.
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A statement is not a proof or refutation.
It's just vacuous stuttering.
It's just vacuous stuttering.
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You obviously didn't read his earlier posts.
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