DVS
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I know some areas of the country have laws protecting home owners in the event of a burglary or some other home invasion. Like the incident down in Florida when George Zimmerman said he felt his life was in danger and shot Trayvon Martin.
In that case, Zimmerman always had the upper hand, because he had the gun. He didn't have to kill Martin. If he felt so concerned with his own life, I think just firing the gun would have gotten Martin's attention. At the worst, just wounding him would have made more sense than shooting him in the chest. But, that's just my opinion.
I agree there should be laws that allow citizens to defend themselves, but these laws should spell out exactly what is legal and what isn't. This might change things from someone being shot and killed by a home owner who thinks he has the right to do so, when he actually might not.
If someone is going to own a gun for the purpose of defense, that person needs to know when using it for defense turns into offense. Even in the heat of the moment, if you choose to own a gun, you have to keep a clear mind and understand what the law allows. And the law should be stated in such a way that there is no doubt. If any law allows someone to shoot a suspect who's running away from a lousy property crime, there is something very wrong with that law.
Now, they're going to go through another court hearing where people will second guess the home owner and judge whether he had the right to shoot someone or not. In California, I think the law states he was within his rights to defend himself and his property if he felt his life was in imminent danger. But, that phrase can be misleading and almost interpreted on a case by case basis, if you allow each citizen to do so.
The woman this guy shot and killed was running away from him. He shot her not once, but twice in the back as she and her burglary partner were running from the house. In my opinion, any fear of imminent danger was no longer present for this home owner, and he no longer had the legal right to shoot either of these people.
It's strange how he spoke as if he had the right to shoot either of them. He even said the woman wasn't running as fast as the man was. Maybe he saw her as an easier target then?
I'm very much a proponent for proper gun ownership and the right to defend one's self when there is no other choice. But, to me, it's obvious that even if there was imminent danger to this home owner at some time during the burglary, he was no longer in danger and by shooting someone in the back (twice) should be enough proof to any court that he acted outside of the law and should be brought up on charges. If not murder, the least he should be charged with is man slaughter.
It will be interesting to see how California handles this. It will be another test for the laws on record and if the text should be reworked to make it very clear when "imminent fear for one's life" is defined as present and when it isn't.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28490542
In that case, Zimmerman always had the upper hand, because he had the gun. He didn't have to kill Martin. If he felt so concerned with his own life, I think just firing the gun would have gotten Martin's attention. At the worst, just wounding him would have made more sense than shooting him in the chest. But, that's just my opinion.
I agree there should be laws that allow citizens to defend themselves, but these laws should spell out exactly what is legal and what isn't. This might change things from someone being shot and killed by a home owner who thinks he has the right to do so, when he actually might not.
If someone is going to own a gun for the purpose of defense, that person needs to know when using it for defense turns into offense. Even in the heat of the moment, if you choose to own a gun, you have to keep a clear mind and understand what the law allows. And the law should be stated in such a way that there is no doubt. If any law allows someone to shoot a suspect who's running away from a lousy property crime, there is something very wrong with that law.
Now, they're going to go through another court hearing where people will second guess the home owner and judge whether he had the right to shoot someone or not. In California, I think the law states he was within his rights to defend himself and his property if he felt his life was in imminent danger. But, that phrase can be misleading and almost interpreted on a case by case basis, if you allow each citizen to do so.
The woman this guy shot and killed was running away from him. He shot her not once, but twice in the back as she and her burglary partner were running from the house. In my opinion, any fear of imminent danger was no longer present for this home owner, and he no longer had the legal right to shoot either of these people.
It's strange how he spoke as if he had the right to shoot either of them. He even said the woman wasn't running as fast as the man was. Maybe he saw her as an easier target then?
I'm very much a proponent for proper gun ownership and the right to defend one's self when there is no other choice. But, to me, it's obvious that even if there was imminent danger to this home owner at some time during the burglary, he was no longer in danger and by shooting someone in the back (twice) should be enough proof to any court that he acted outside of the law and should be brought up on charges. If not murder, the least he should be charged with is man slaughter.
It will be interesting to see how California handles this. It will be another test for the laws on record and if the text should be reworked to make it very clear when "imminent fear for one's life" is defined as present and when it isn't.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-28490542