The rape game

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/03/30/japan.video.game.rape/index.html?hpt=C2

Tokyo, Japan (CNN) -- The game begins with a teenage girl on a subway platform. She notices you are looking at her and asks, "Can I help you with something?"

That is when you, the player, can choose your method of assault.

With the click of your mouse, you can grope her and lift her skirt. Then you can follow her aboard the train, assaulting her sister and her mother.

As you continue to play, "friends" join in and in a series of graphic, interactive scenes, you can corner the women, rape them again and again.

The game allows you to even impregnate a girl and urge her to have an abortion. The reason behind your assault, explains the game, is that the teenage girl has accused you of molesting her on the train. The motive is revenge.
 
Hmm, what would be my favorite method of assault.
I would like to see the list.

Anything involving scarecrows and whip cream?
 
While this is not the first Japanese rape game, this one certainly breaks new ground.

For example, the option to assault the primary victim's relatives is new to the genre (as far as I know). This feature and the motive for the sexual assault being her accusation of sexual assault make this title destined to be a classic.
 
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Gotta love this free speech. Like Doe said the rape games are not new but they also are not popular here. Whether because Americans dont want them or dont have access is unknown.
 
Whenever this kind of furore blows up it makes me curious, really curious.

We , in the west , always seem to assume some moral highground based on a presumption of our moral premise being in some way immaculate.

Ok the games sound distatsteful as hell. Yet , when my curiosity caused me to google some stats , and I found that most came out somewhere around this site

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

It has to make anyone pause to wonder. Figures such as

# 1 South Africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people
# 2 Seychelles: 0.788294 per 1,000 people
# 3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people
# 4 Montserrat: 0.749384 per 1,000 people
# 5 Canada: 0.733089 per 1,000 people
# 6 Jamaica: 0.476608 per 1,000 people
# 7 Zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people
# 8 Dominica: 0.34768 per 1,000 people
# 9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
# 10 Iceland: 0.246009 per 1,000 people
# 11 Papua New Guinea: 0.233544 per 1,000 people
# 12 New Zealand: 0.213383 per 1,000 people
# 9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
# 13 United Kingdom: 0.142172 per 1,000 people
# 16 Korea, South: 0.12621 per 1,000 people
# 33 Ireland: 0.0542829 per 1,000 people
# 54 Japan: 0.017737 per 1,000 people

are shocking , more so when we see the nation that is the focus of the current indignation is way down the list from the USA and the UK.
Ok , some may leap in with the 'unreported' factor. That exists in all nations . Even if it is rediculously higher in Japan , the gap between the west and Japan is too significant to ignore.

So , do we need to ask , is it better to have outrageous entertainment forms that may be distasteful , yet possibly vent aggression , and thus reduce r/t incidence of rape ?
or,
are we right to insist the almost adolescent representation of it is outlawed , even if that moral position exists hand in hand with higher actual rape stats ?

I really do not know where I stand on this. My gut reaction was that I would prefer potential 'doers' to realise their 'fancy' in a game. However, I acknowledge that fantasy gratification might lead to acceleration of violence and real expression of those urges.
Yet , Japan's experience seems to oppose that view.

I saw one item that said Japan had agreed to ban all such games in June.
Is that a good thing , when their real rape stats are so low compared to many nations with far more censorious stances.
Will we see a situation where the western feminist indignation sponsors an increase in real rapes in Japan ?
If so , isn't that somewhat arse about face.
As I said. I really do not know where I stand on this. I have never seen the games before this thread . I didn't know they were out there. Whilst part of me senses it is better to alow the games and reduce the reality , another part of me wondwers where we have to draw an increasingly distasteful line. The arguments supporting the sense in allowing these games could be levelled at other totally obnoxious 'philias'
 
Tokyo, Japan (CNN) -- The game begins with a teenage girl on a subway platform. She notices you are looking at her and asks, "Can I help you with something?"

That is when you, the player, can choose your method of assault.

With the click of your mouse, you can grope her and lift her skirt. Then you can follow her aboard the train, assaulting her sister and her mother.

As you continue to play, "friends" join in and in a series of graphic, interactive scenes, you can corner the women, rape them again and again.

The game allows you to even impregnate a girl and urge her to have an abortion. The reason behind your assault, explains the game, is that the teenage girl has accused you of molesting her on the train. The motive is revenge.

Boooor-ing.

Do you at least get to steal a car?
 
Whenever this kind of furore blows up it makes me curious, really curious.

We , in the west , always seem to assume some moral highground based on a presumption of our moral premise being in some way immaculate.

Ok the games sound distatsteful as hell. Yet , when my curiosity caused me to google some stats , and I found that most came out somewhere around this site

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

It has to make anyone pause to wonder. Figures such as

# 1 South Africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people
# 2 Seychelles: 0.788294 per 1,000 people
# 3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people
# 4 Montserrat: 0.749384 per 1,000 people
# 5 Canada: 0.733089 per 1,000 people
# 6 Jamaica: 0.476608 per 1,000 people
# 7 Zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people
# 8 Dominica: 0.34768 per 1,000 people
# 9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
# 10 Iceland: 0.246009 per 1,000 people
# 11 Papua New Guinea: 0.233544 per 1,000 people
# 12 New Zealand: 0.213383 per 1,000 people
# 9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people
# 13 United Kingdom: 0.142172 per 1,000 people
# 16 Korea, South: 0.12621 per 1,000 people
# 33 Ireland: 0.0542829 per 1,000 people
# 54 Japan: 0.017737 per 1,000 people

are shocking , more so when we see the nation that is the focus of the current indignation is way down the list from the USA and the UK.
Ok , some may leap in with the 'unreported' factor. That exists in all nations . Even if it is rediculously higher in Japan , the gap between the west and Japan is too significant to ignore.

So , do we need to ask , is it better to have outrageous entertainment forms that may be distasteful , yet possibly vent aggression , and thus reduce r/t incidence of rape ?
or,
are we right to insist the almost adolescent representation of it is outlawed , even if that moral position exists hand in hand with higher actual rape stats ?

I really do not know where I stand on this. My gut reaction was that I would prefer potential 'doers' to realise their 'fancy' in a game. However, I acknowledge that fantasy gratification might lead to acceleration of violence and real expression of those urges.
Yet , Japan's experience seems to oppose that view.

I saw one item that said Japan had agreed to ban all such games in June.
Is that a good thing , when their real rape stats are so low compared to many nations with far more censorious stances.
Will we see a situation where the western feminist indignation sponsors an increase in real rapes in Japan ?
If so , isn't that somewhat arse about face.
As I said. I really do not know where I stand on this. I have never seen the games before this thread . I didn't know they were out there. Whilst part of me senses it is better to alow the games and reduce the reality , another part of me wondwers where we have to draw an increasingly distasteful line. The arguments supporting the sense in allowing these games could be levelled at other totally obnoxious 'philias'

It's definitely adolescent but I'm okay with that.
 
I just noticed the article was posted today.

CNN: Always on top of the latest news. :rolleyes:
 
Ok , some may leap in with the 'unreported' factor. That exists in all nations . Even if it is rediculously higher in Japan , the gap between the west and Japan is too significant to ignore.

I saw one item that said Japan had agreed to ban all such games in June.
Is that a good thing , when their real rape stats are so low compared to many nations with far more censorious stances.
Will we see a situation where the western feminist indignation sponsors an increase in real rapes in Japan ?

a few issues with this. the 'unreported factor' is in fact very big in japan. Recent cases such as a woman being sexually assaulted in front of passengers on a train before being dragged to the toilet and raped illustrate the fact that in japan, rape is seen as a private issue and women are second class citizens when it comes to justice. Basically japanese women are where western european women were 30 odd years ago.

It's feminist 'indignation' that has only recently resulted in a rise in the minimum sentence to three years. you get more for robbery! your suggestion that feminists are responsible for rape is not only fatuous, but coming from you, pretty shocking. I had thought you could think on a slightly higher level than le jerk.
 
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