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EmpressFi said:
I guess what I mean by thinking "So?" was.. more of a big deal. And in this particular case.. a milestone? How is hiding or at least not confirming something that's been tittered about on bulletion boards but never confirmed or denied.. until MONTHS after the last book was published and sold a milestone. Nothing.. absolutely nothing in the series gives proof one way or another that Albus Dumbledore was anything but a concerned, brilliant, humanly flawed, role model/father figure for Harry. How is announcing it after the fact a milestone. Yes, I believe it's overdue..but my "So?" was more in response to what I know must have been millions of the evangelical crowd (not all of them, I know, I'm thinking of the ones I know) who were gasping in horror and saying, "Seeeeeeee, we told you these books were bad."

Just as a teacher's sexual preference should have no bearing on how well he teaches his class.. Dumbledore's sexual preference should have no bearing on his abilities as Headmaster, as teacher, as mentor, as friend.
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Thanks for clarifying. You're preachin' to the choir here, Fi. One would hope!
 
Hobbit is delightful, fellowship of the ring is literary valium of the worst sort, it picks up again in the two towers, if you still manage to care at all.
 
I forwarded an article to all my friends when I found out. It definitely made my day. :nana:

I'm also reading clear through the series again, having recently picked up book five, the only one I was missing. I adore audio books, though, since I travel so much, so I think I'll start picking up those.
 
JMohegan said:
Rebecca - Thanks. The cat thing was definitely TMI (!), but I appreciated the rest of the update. Please give her my regards.
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I happily relayed your message Mr Mohegan .

Neon asked would I please tell you "she says hello also" :cool:

Best not read beyond this point though .....

Penis-less Leo says hi! He says to tell you that he doesn't really miss it, especially as he can now pee again. (Leo is one of her cats )
 
Here's the thing though. Dumbledore fell in love as a teen, I think it was? He never in his long life loved again?? WTF???
 
FurryFury said:
Here's the thing though. Dumbledore fell in love as a teen, I think it was? He never in his long life loved again?? WTF???
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A friend of mine read a bit on the q&a with Rowling. The backstory is that Dumbledore fell in love with the wrong person, that close friend of his who was evil, what'shisname. I gather that he was so scarred by that experience, he could never love again.
 
intothewoods said:
A friend of mine read a bit on the q&a with Rowling. The backstory is that Dumbledore fell in love with the wrong person, that close friend of his who was evil, what'shisname. I gather that he was so scarred by that experience, he could never love again.
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To which I say bullshit Ms. Rowling. People don't live in a vacuum like that, the allow love in again. Hows about we make these characters more like people?
 
intothewoods said:
Indeed! And what about Madama_MiniTopic?
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As far as I know, MMT only exists to take over when Lit Management temporarily boots the Rebecca ID for one reason or another.

(Why this sometimes occurs, I don't really know, but castigation for squicking people out is my current best guess! )
 
intothewoods said:
fell in love with the wrong person.....

was so scarred by that experience, he could never love again.
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and thus the reason I live alone with my two cats (damn pussies)
 
JMohegan said:
Great news - and one more reason why Ian McKellen should have replaced Richard Harris. Damn.
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Damn is right.. I never thought of him as a replacement for Richard Harris. Good call JM.
 
intothewoods said:
A friend of mine read a bit on the q&a with Rowling. The backstory is that Dumbledore fell in love with the wrong person, that close friend of his who was evil, what'shisname. I gather that he was so scarred by that experience, he could never love again.
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I would love to see a HP prequel written by her.
 
It can happen...

FurryFury said:
To which I say bullshit Ms. Rowling. People don't live in a vacuum like that, the allow love in again. Hows about we make these characters more like people?
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Oh, I don't know about that. This character seemed real enough to me. I can relate from personal experiece. I fell in love at 20 - head over heals in love - married and divorced a few short years later. I've never been in love since. I even remained celebate for most of my adult life, nearly 14 yrs. I've had one relationship since, but I wouldn't at all call it love. I didn't take an oath or disavow love or anything like that, it just happened that way. I know my case is extreme, but when I look at the totality of who Dumbledore was - who he became and his accomplishments - it makes sense to me that he never found love after adolescence.
 
half_full said:
Oh, I don't know about that. This character seemed real enough to me. I can relate from personal experiece. I fell in love at 20 - head over heals in love - married and divorced a few short years later. I've never been in love since. I even remained celebate for most of my adult life, nearly 14 yrs. I've had one relationship since, but I wouldn't at all call it love. I didn't take an oath or disavow love or anything like that, it just happened that way. I know my case is extreme, but when I look at the totality of who Dumbledore was - who he became and his accomplishments - it makes sense to me that he never found love after adolescence.
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think when you look at how many of Rowlings characters love young only to never love again, you begin to see that her characters in that regard at least, are not "real" at all.
 
FurryFury said:
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I think when you look at how many of Rowlings characters love young only to never love again, you begin to see that her characters in that regard at least, are not "real" at all.
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I think you are right about some of the other Rowlings characters, but not Dumbledore. Having a love interest or not had nothing to do with his 'realness', but instead was a clever and necessary literary device central to the plot and storyline. You see, Rowlings did not set out to write a tragedy of the Shakespearean sort, where one must chose between competing 'goods' or 'rights'. No, this was a classic story of Good vs Evil in the tradition of Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. There is no real choice, the good must always prevail, we just go along for the ride. For Dumbledore to have a love interest could have potentially created the Shakespearean 'fatal flaw' where Dumbledore would have had to chose between his lover and triumph over evil, or his lover and Harry. Not the story I think she wanted to write.

On a side note, the Jedi Knights were not allowed to love or marry for the same reason. When one did, holy fuck the Universe went to hell in a hand basket.

But then again, I could be completely offbase and over-analyzing here. It is also quite possible that Rowlings did not give him a love interest because she wanted to make the character gay but did not feel that gay relationships were either appropriate for childrens literature or would have been well received, and she would have been right (on the second point). Tonight Bill OReilly is doing a story on Dumbledore's gayness. Tomorrow there will be book burnings. (sighs...)
 
I have a very strong urge to answer all posts today with lyrics from Showtunes :cool:

I think my Fu would approve, ohh and my sadism score was
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
I have a very strong urge to answer all posts today with lyrics from Showtunes :cool:

I think my Fu would approve, ohh and my sadism score was
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Wait, wait. What was your sadism score? :rolleyes:

If you can answer that question with lyrics from Showtunes I'd be suitably impressed. :D
 
reignophelia said:
Wait, wait. What was your sadism score? :rolleyes:

If you can answer that question with lyrics from Showtunes I'd be suitably impressed. :D
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: chuckles : Anything works, you haven't heard my singing voice .

Ummmn how about a Rebecca rendition of You're the Top by Cole Porter with a heavy emphasis on the lines about Dante's Inferno ?
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
I think my Fu would approve,
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Some enchanted evening
You may see a stranger,
you may see a stranger
Across a crowded room
And somehow you know,
You know even then
That somewhere you'll see her
Again and again.

Some enchanted evening
Someone may be laughin',
You may hear her laughin'
Across a crowded room
And night after night,
As strange as it seems
The sound of her laughter
Will sing in your dreams.

Who can explain it?
Who can tell you why?
Fools give you reasons,
Wise men never try.

Some enchanted evening
When you find your true love,
When you feel her call you
Across a crowded room,
Then fly to her side,
And make her your own
Or all through your life you
May dream all alone.

Once you have found her,
Never let her go.
Once you have found her,
Never let her go!
​


approve? indeed :kiss:



.
 
half_full said:
I think you are right about some of the other Rowlings characters, but not Dumbledore. Having a love interest or not had nothing to do with his 'realness', but instead was a clever and necessary literary device central to the plot and storyline. You see, Rowlings did not set out to write a tragedy of the Shakespearean sort, where one must chose between competing 'goods' or 'rights'. No, this was a classic story of Good vs Evil in the tradition of Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. There is no real choice, the good must always prevail, we just go along for the ride. For Dumbledore to have a love interest could have potentially created the Shakespearean 'fatal flaw' where Dumbledore would have had to chose between his lover and triumph over evil, or his lover and Harry. Not the story I think she wanted to write.

On a side note, the Jedi Knights were not allowed to love or marry for the same reason. When one did, holy fuck the Universe went to hell in a hand basket.

But then again, I could be completely offbase and over-analyzing here. It is also quite possible that Rowlings did not give him a love interest because she wanted to make the character gay but did not feel that gay relationships were either appropriate for childrens literature or would have been well received, and she would have been right (on the second point). Tonight Bill OReilly is doing a story on Dumbledore's gayness. Tomorrow there will be book burnings. (sighs...)
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I just think Dumbledore and other characters would have at least fucked someone else if not fallen head over heals in love with them.

*shrugs*
 
@}-}rebecca---- said:
I have a very strong urge to answer all posts today with lyrics from Showtunes :cool:

I think my Fu would approve, ohh and my sadism score was
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My FAV part of Pushing Daisies last week was the Pie Hole shop girl singing Hopelessly Devoted To You while the janitor listened on his ear phones to whatever totally missing it. This show continues to wow me with bits like that.
 
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