Are you ever "justified" in using a racial slur?

BlackShanglan said:

I notice he hasn't dropped 'round since the poll results were in.

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I haven't been around this thread because I said I wasn't bringing GB nonsense to the AH. I'm sorely tempted to gloat because the AH would never have let people get away with calling me a NIGGER to begin with, a fact which seriously skews the entire argument and which is being ignored here. And I'm also sorely tempted to gloat about the level of disapproval towards using one's "brother in law" to call me a nigger.

Can't you guys just leave the GB nonsense on the GB?

Wyldfire said:

I meant in the AH. He's more civil here than there in the GB. And that way it minimizes my contact with him.

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I used to work in an animal shelter. There was a beautiful pit bull there who was slated for execution (he'd come in as a confiscation from a dog fighter). Many employees pled for his life, as he was indeed a sweet, waggy dog who would lick your fingers through the door and show you his belly if you stooped down to talk to him.

Finally, the behaviorist brought a number of employees in to explain why the dog was going to be put down. She went up to the cage and, instead of crouching down and speaking sweetly to the dog, she stood upright and simply looked down at him. He began to growl and backed into the far corner of the cage. She then slid a biscuit into the cage and picked up a broomstick. The dog moved toward the biscuit. She said "no," quietly but firmly, and slid the broomstick in between the cage links and tapped it on the floor near the biscuit.

She did that twice. The third time the dog threw itself at the broomstick in a savage rage, biting and snarling, and followed it back to the cage door when it was withdrawn to rage at everyone around it.

The lesson: he was nice so long as no one asked him to do anything he didn't inherently want to do anyway.

LovingTongue said:

I haven't been around this thread because I said I wasn't bringing GB nonsense to the AH. I'm sorely tempted to gloat because the AH would never have let people get away with calling me a NIGGER to begin with, a fact which seriously skews the entire argument and which is being ignored here. And I'm also sorely tempted to gloat about the level of disapproval towards using one's "brother in law" to call me a nigger.

Can't you guys just leave the GB nonsense on the GB?

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Your character is the same wherever you are. The poll suggests that despite your insistence that your use of racial slurs doesn't alienate people, quite a lot of them find it objectionable.

BlackShanglan said:

Your character is the same wherever you are. The poll suggests that despite your insistence that your use of racial slurs doesn't alienate people, quite a lot of them find it objectionable.

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Take it back to the GB, please.

LovingTongue said:

Take it back to the GB, please.

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I live here.

BlackShanglan said:

I live here.

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But this debate does not LIVE here. It started on the GB and was brought here by Ulaven Demorte under false pretenses with the intent to manipulate the AH. No one here knew about the atmosphere of permissiveness the GB has towards racism, which totally ruins the integrity of this poll.

Take it back to the GB where it came from, please.

LovingTongue said:

But this debate does not LIVE here. It started on the GB and was brought here by Ulaven Demorte under false pretenses with the intent to manipulate the AH. No one here knew about the atmosphere of permissiveness the GB has towards racism, which totally ruins the integrity of this poll.

Take it back to the GB where it came from, please.

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My character follows me, as yours follows you, LT. When you venture here, don't expect to have the slate wiped clean.

Your rationale for dismissing this post is as hollow as every other argument you've attempted to marshal to support your ugly habits.

LovingTongue said:

I haven't been around this thread because I said I wasn't bringing GB nonsense to the AH. I'm sorely tempted to gloat because the AH would never have let people get away with calling me a NIGGER to begin with, a fact which seriously skews the entire argument and which is being ignored here. And I'm also sorely tempted to gloat about the level of disapproval towards using one's "brother in law" to call me a nigger.

Can't you guys just leave the GB nonsense on the GB?

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I never called you that name and you attacked me LT.

BlackShanglan said:

My character follows me, as yours follows you, LT. When you venture here, don't expect to have the slate wiped clean.

Your rationale for dismissing this post is as hollow as every other argument you've attempted to marshal to support your ugly habits.

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Anyone who wants to know my "slate" can read the GB and see me. Do you think AH readers are banned from seeing posts on the GB? I dismiss your argument because it isn't real and it is in the wrong forum.

LovingTongue said:

But this debate does not LIVE here. It started on the GB and was brought here by Ulaven Demorte under false pretenses with the intent to manipulate the AH. No one here knew about the atmosphere of permissiveness the GB has towards racism, which totally ruins the integrity of this poll.

Take it back to the GB where it came from, please.

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LT, if here was such a special place you would have ignored what UD did. Shanglan's story of the pitbull is making more and more sense.

LovingTongue said:

Anyone who wants to know my "slate" can read the GB and see me. Do you think AH readers are banned from seeing posts on the GB? I dismiss your argument because it isn't real and it is in the wrong forum.

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LT, your fighting unneccesarily.

Wyldfire said:

LT, your fighting unneccesarily.

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No I'm not. I'm asking you to take this to the GB.

LovingTongue said:

No I'm not. I'm asking you to take this to the GB.

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You want us to take this to the GB so you can call all of us white trash LT. We're keeping it here as an intervention for you so you do blow a head gasket like you're working up to.

Wyldfire said:

You want us to take this to the GB so you can call all of us white trash LT. We're keeping it here as an intervention for you so you do blow a head gasket like you're working up to.

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LT took that angry mad man "don't even think of having a rational discussion with me" cartoon off his sig line here. That was certainly a nice gesture, I think. Thanks.

sr71plt said:

LT took that angry mad man "don't even think of having a rational discussion with me" cartoon off his sig line here. That was certainly a nice gesture, I think. Thanks.

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I just don't want the karma of his blow up. That and I do try to help those in need.

I feel I made a mistake in pushing him so hard in a debate considering I didn't know how unstable he really was. Now I'm trying to help get him back down. I'd like to see if he can be a civilized debater and understand that just because you take an opposing view of him it doesn't mean you're out to get him.

Wyldfire said:

I just don't want the karma of his blow up. That and I do try to help those in need.

I feel I made a mistake in pushing him so hard in a debate considering I didn't know how unstable he really was. Now I'm trying to help get him back down. I'd like to see if he can be a civilized debater and understand that just because you take an opposing view of him it doesn't mean you're out to get him.

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I understand. I'm just glad he ditched that angry cartoon--and thanks he deserves points (and notice) for doing so.

sr71plt said:

I understand. I'm just glad he ditched that angry cartoon--and thanks he deserves points (and notice) for doing so.

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I agree. His ditto head catoon was a bit offensive wasn't it?

Asking whether the use of racial slurs is ever justified is like asking whether picking one's nose or farting in public, or coughing in someone's face, is ever justified.

A civilized person may, in anger, violate his own social code. But he doesn't look for justification.

Wyldfire said:

I just don't want the karma of his blow up. That and I do try to help those in need.

I feel I made a mistake in pushing him so hard in a debate considering I didn't know how unstable he really was. Now I'm trying to help get him back down. I'd like to see if he can be a civilized debater and understand that just because you take an opposing view of him it doesn't mean you're out to get him.

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You made a racist comment about black people:

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=24253080&postcount=107
"Yeah because if they really cut loose the black people would be crying like little giorls and screaming that the racist white people are evil. Such a double standard exists."

You lost this one, Wyldfire. Except in the eyes of those who are okay with racist comments.

Now would you like to go back to the GB with this? Thanks.

shereads said:

Asking whether the use of racial slurs is ever justified is like asking whether picking one's nose or farting in public, or coughing in someone's face, is ever justified.

A civilized person may, in anger, violate his own social code. But he doesn't look for justification.

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On the General Board, nobody gets bothered if I am called a nigger.

If I say something back, then that is the only time they get pissed.

The GB is highly permissive about racism towards blacks.

{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}}}}} every single one of you and gives you all flowers and kisses and hopes you all are much happier soon!

LovingTongue said:

On the General Board, nobody gets bothered if I am called a nigger.

If I say something back, then that is the only time they get pissed.

The GB is highly permissive about racism towards blacks.

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Again, wrong. You're ascribing the attitude of a very small number of people to everyone that disagrees with your notion that you are perfectly justified for "fighting fire with fire" when it comes to hurling racial slurs. Both parties are condemned by reasonable people.

You created your poll here for several reasons after this one was made.

1. To drag someone else into the spotlight to try to make yourself seem somehow more reasonable. My younger brother used this tactic a lot when we were growing up, as soon as he got caught he would start pointing fingers in every direction, thinking that somehow his indiscretion would be looked upon as less "wrong" if he could show that other people were also doing "bad things".

2. You made it an "open poll" so as to gather list of names that do not support your views. You've done this before. Then later created another thread berating all that disagreed with your assertions as racists and idiots. This is not a new tactic.

3. You're attempting to paint yourself as the victim here, hiding behind the pretty little facade that you've created for the express purpose of character assassination. The problem is that the seething maniac is showing around the edges and I have a sledgehammer.

4. You're attempting to build credibility on the AH to use as a weapon against your perceived enemies that happen to visit both areas of this board. It takes only a quick glance at your prancing and gloating on the GB to see exactly what you're up to here and who is trying to use whom. I don't blame the people of the AH who have taken you at your word, they assume wrongly that they are dealing with a rational, sane human being in you. I don't need credibility here to expose you as the fraudulent manufactured entity that you've created, I only need to quote your own words, they're much more damning than anything that I or anyone else could possibly begin to invent.

You remind me of the hypocritical religious people I knew in my youth. Prim and proper, very respectful and very religious while in church (the AH). Spewing four letter words, smoking, drinking, and womanizing while out of sight of the religious friends they kept (in the GB). Naturally the people in the church are appalled that someone that's seen your carousing outside of their hallowed halls has suddenly shown up in biker's leathers. This is what happens when one tries to lead a double life, one eventually spills over into the other.

Wyldfire said:

You want us to take this to the GB so you can call all of us white trash LT. We're keeping it here as an intervention for you so you do blow a head gasket like you're working up to.

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Maybe he could condone more violence and hatred.

I love that part.

I was watching a show yesterday about the Inquisition. I think LT would have been perfectly at home murdering people for things they didn't say. He's certainly shown an ability to be infuriated by people not doing what he wants them to do and feel and think exactly the way he wants them to think. Hatred and anger must be justified and propagated.

The level of violence and threat to which he's capable, even taking it into real life, where he ends up at someone's dojo challenging them essentially to a duel...or making sure someone loses their job...he's not afraid to take his complete raving lunacy offline and into reality.

Oh, and he also really enjoys trolling people's stories if they're authors and anonymously lowering their scores. He thinks it's justice. He's proud of it.

That's actually a fairly big sin on the AH.

Trolling someone's stories is looked down upon here?
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=23637045&postcount=81

LovingTongue said:

Oh my God, you moron, what a long boring delusional screed you just posted.

My AV is "Bob" from the church of the subgenius.

Shhh, no wonder you're such a pathetic reject.

Oh and I also trolled your stories, LOL!!! Bitch. Bet you didn't notice that now did you?

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Childishly predictable, always playing to the lowest common denominator.

Ulaven_Demorte said:

Trolling someone's stories is looked down upon here?
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=23637045&postcount=81


Childishly predictable, always playing to the lowest common denominator.

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I'm sure we're lying. We must have made all this up somehow.

LT said so.

You AGREE with LT or he FUCKS YOU UP.

Don't you get this yet?

Geez, are you trying to get me in trouble?