Frat Boy Gets a Slap on the Wrist in Rape Case

[beew]

Most people believe her story, as do I.
But I don't think either that the judge acted with ill intent, like most mass media say. He must have got caught up in some legal loopholes.

“Unlawful restraint but not sexual assault.”
It's a strange ruling. I'm curious about what specifically led the judge to stop there, but I couldn’t find much online.

The DA said she just couldn't make the case beyond a reasonable doubt.
Since we are a country of laws, if the DA can't prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt (she said in one of the linked articles that she was afraid the young man would be exonerated if they went to trial) she did the next best thing and took the plea deal.

The law isn't perfect. Sometimes people can scam the system. I think this was one of those times. That doesn't make it any more palatable, but it's the way things happen sometimes.

Unfortunately,with rape charges it’s “innocent until proven guilty” and they aren’t easy to prove. Which is why half of the victims don’t report them.

But as much as that sucks, they can't switch to the “guilty until proved innocent”, which is the formal approach to child abuse allegations or the #MeToo movement’s hope. If they did that, they’d risk encouraging false accusations.

 

[Notcastor]

That's not how this works.

You don't get to accuse me of "destroying" someone without evidence when they obviously haven't been "destroyed". Kavanaugh hyperbole anyone?

You can't answer and won't answer my question because you yourself are a rapist is my guess.

Your emotions on this are way out of bounds and pretty histrionic. Even by your standards.

No one should be shocked by you trying to put me on trial for your behavior. It's pretty much what the system lets rapists do.

So, BB, who did you rape?

Every man who disagrees with Adrina is a rapist.

Every man who disagrees with Butters is her abusive liar ex husband.

Psycho Ward. Hysteria Hotel.

 

[adrina]

Somehow coming from a narcissist, that just didn't land.

Dunno, you guys just aren't as sharp lately.

Almost disappointing.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

In conclusion

Im sure SHE LIED!

I hope the person that runs you over one day is a woman.

 

[IG_88]

For one thing it's Baylor. School full of rapists. It's a known fact.
For another Baylor is in Waco. 'Nuff said.
CNN in all their classiness chose to print the testimony that described the rape in pretty good detail. Stay classy, Atlanta.
Fox in all their whatever the fuck it is they are decided to not run a story at all. Or at least nowhere on the first page. Way to be Fox, Fox.

So in summation, avoid Waco and especially Baylor and probably start getting news from TMZ or some shit.

 

[IG_88]

Also I'm the least anit-porn person in the world cuz yay porn but the rape sounds like a reciting of a standard scene in just about any modern porno. I'm not blaming it but ya know, wouldn't wanna say it's entirely innocent here either. I personally think a lot of younger kids have/are growing up thinking that's how you have sex.
So yeah, I opened that can of worms.

 

[Notcastor]

Adrina keeps saying rape isnt sex, it’s assault.

Let’s go with that.

College students get charged with assault from drunken party scraps all the time and many of those charges are plead down to nothing charges... and rightly so.

A punch in the nose or a penis in your puss.... aren’t they on the same scale of wrongness?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

https://baylorlariat.com/2018/12/10/anderson-plea-deal-accepted-by-judge/

https://www.wacotrib.com/news/court...86dc1e27aa.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

Vic Feazell, the victim's attorney, was astounded by the "sweetheart deal," telling KWTX, “It pays to be rich and white in McLennan County when you’re charged with a crime.”

That pretty much sums it up for me. The guy, the perpetrator, had money and connections and the family used them.

 

[Busybody18]

Vic Feazell, the victim's attorney, was astounded by the "sweetheart deal," telling KWTX, “It pays to be rich and white in McLennan County when you’re charged with a crime.”

That pretty much sums it up for me. The guy, the perpetrator, had money and connections and the family used them.

In response to NIGGER BUM NEXT DOOR and his fellow NIGGERS

You all said the SAME shit when the DUKE boys were accused by a NIGGER...you had him all convicted and ready to be LYNCHED

It was ONLY BUSYBODY who stood and said...LETS WAIT FOR FACTS....within a DAY or 2, I said the NIGGER CUNT LIED

I was attacked, of course, much the same way YOU NIGGERS are attacking me NOW.....

I WAS RIGHT!

OF COURSE I WAS!


So take your NIGGER TEARS and FUCK OFF with them

You wouldnt want your family to be hunted and haunted with OUT FACTS

 

[Busybody18]

Vic Feazell, the victim's attorney, was astounded by the "sweetheart deal," telling KWTX, “It pays to be rich and white in McLennan County when you’re charged with a crime.”

That pretty much sums it up for me. The guy, the perpetrator, had money and connections and the family used them.

So?

Did you say the same about OJ?

 

[Busybody18]

In response to NIGGER BUM NEXT DOOR and his fellow NIGGERS

You all said the SAME shit when the DUKE boys were accused by a NIGGER...you had him all convicted and ready to be LYNCHED

It was ONLY BUSYBODY who stood and said...LETS WAIT FOR FACTS....within a DAY or 2, I said the NIGGER CUNT LIED

I was attacked, of course, much the same way YOU NIGGERS are attacking me NOW.....

I WAS RIGHT!

OF COURSE I WAS!


So take your NIGGER TEARS and FUCK OFF with them

You wouldnt want your family to be hunted and haunted with OUT FACTS

When you have facts, you pound the facts

When you have no facts, you pound the table

When you have no table, you pound BUSYBODY

 

[HisArpy]

Oh look. Another man is getting away with rape.

I wonder why more women don't report it. Just can't imagine...

Maybe it has something to do with this POS judge and people like Brock Turner. Or all the destroyed rape kits.

It appears our society cares very little for rape victims and more for rapists.

Rape is serious shit. Pointing fingers and screaming about how all men are rapists doesn't make every man a rapist. It doesn't solve a single crime of rape. It doesn't prevent a single person from being raped. And it doesn't take away the hurt of being raped.

What you do actually clouds the legal, moral, and social landscape and eventually results in the trivializing of a really horrible offense.

 

[RobDownSouth]

For one thing it's Baylor. School full of rapists. It's a known fact.
For another Baylor is in Waco. 'Nuff said.
CNN in all their classiness chose to print the testimony that described the rape in pretty good detail. Stay classy, Atlanta.
Fox in all their whatever the fuck it is they are decided to not run a story at all. Or at least nowhere on the first page. Way to be Fox, Fox.

So in summation, avoid Waco and especially Baylor and probably start getting news from TMZ or some shit.

Oh noes, they described the rape ("non-rape" in AJ-speak) in detail! Somebody get that fecking hothouse flower IG88 a damned fainting couch!

I don't disagree Baylor is full of rapey guys. News reports say at least three frat boys got probation for their "unlawful restraints" in the same court system there in the past three years. Looks like "first rape is a freebie" is the unofficial policy.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Rape is serious shit. Pointing fingers and screaming about how all men are rapists doesn't make every man a rapist. It doesn't solve a single crime of rape. It doesn't prevent a single person from being raped. And it doesn't take away the hurt of being raped.

What you do actually clouds the legal, moral, and social landscape and eventually results in the trivializing of a really horrible offense.

And if she was "dressed slutty", she "deserved" it. Amirite, Timmeh?

 

[zipman]

Rape is serious shit. Pointing fingers and screaming about how all men are rapists doesn't make every man a rapist. It doesn't solve a single crime of rape. It doesn't prevent a single person from being raped. And it doesn't take away the hurt of being raped.

What you do actually clouds the legal, moral, and social landscape and eventually results in the trivializing of a really horrible offense.

First off, she didn't say all men are rapists. That's just a lame attempt at deflection.

Second, calling attention to some clear problems with the way that law enforcement (untested rape kits) and the justice system (overly lenient judges) actually would help solve and prevent rapes if those issues were actually addressed.

Instead, you prefer to blame her for somehow "trivializing" the issue when she did no such thing.

Do you want to try and respond to what she actually posted again, preferably using your brain this time?

 

[adrina]

Rape is serious shit. Pointing fingers and screaming about how all men are rapists doesn't make every man a rapist. It doesn't solve a single crime of rape. It doesn't prevent a single person from being raped. And it doesn't take away the hurt of being raped.

What you do actually clouds the legal, moral, and social landscape and eventually results in the trivializing of a really horrible offense.

Please point to where I was screaming about how all men are rapists you misogynist piece of shit.

Rape culture - when a woman can't express frustration about the appalling manner in which we as a society treat the atrocities of rape without being accused of hating men, screaming, pointing fingers, accusing all men of rape etc.

Fuck right off with your overly defensive, dismissive and condescending bullshit.

So who have you raped Timmeh?

There sure are a lot of rape apologists who are quick to misinterpret what is being said. What in your inner dialog causes you to assign your sensitivities to the current deplorable way we handle rape?

 

[HisArpy]

Most people believe her story, as do I.
But I don't think either that the judge acted with ill intent, like most mass media say. He must have got caught up in some legal loopholes.

“Unlawful restraint but not sexual assault.”
It's a strange ruling. I'm curious about what specifically led the judge to stop there, but I couldn’t find much online.



Unfortunately,with rape charges it’s “innocent until proven guilty” and they aren’t easy to prove. Which is why half of the victims don’t report them.

But as much as that sucks, they can't switch to the “guilty until proved innocent”, which is the formal approach to child abuse allegations or the #MeToo movement’s hope. If they did that, they’d risk encouraging false accusations.

Why do you say "unfortunately"?

As for the "unlawful restraint" thing, I can think of several instances where restraint would be unlawful but any sex committed during such restraint not be assault. Timing and consent are everything and the court must grapple with questions about when consent was given and to what exactly was consented to, and then search for the answers in the context of reality and facts.

As always, it comes down to nuance. And, with all instances of nuance, one person may view it differently than another. That doesn't make either view "correct" only that one view prevailed in the mind of the judge and he has no choice but to act according to the law.

This is called justice.

 

[HisArpy]

Please point to where I was screaming about how all men are rapists you misogynist piece of shit.

Rape culture - when a woman can't express frustration about the appalling manner in which we as a society treat the atrocities of rape without being accused of hating men, screaming, pointing fingers, accusing all men of rape etc.

Fuck right off with your overly defensive, dismissive and condescending bullshit.

So who have you raped Timmeh?

There sure are a lot of rape apologists who are quick to misinterpret what is being said. What in your inner dialog causes you to assign your sensitivities to the current deplorable way we handle rape?

Oh please.

You scream CONSTANTLY about how men are the world's worst experiment gone wrong. And when challenged on it, you immediately go all ad hominem and spout the most self identifying tripe possible.

YAWN.

 

[adrina]

Oh please.

You scream CONSTANTLY about how men are the world's worst experiment gone wrong. And when challenged on it, you immediately go all ad hominem and spout the most self identifying tripe possible.

YAWN.

Thanks for playing.

Spew crap. Get called on it. Default to deflection.

Again, please find a quote or find your corner to sit in.

 

[beew]

Why do you say "unfortunately"?

As for the "unlawful restraint" thing, I can think of several instances where restraint would be unlawful but any sex committed during such restraint not be assault. Timing and consent are everything and the court must grapple with questions about when consent was given and to what exactly was consented to, and then search for the answers in the context of reality and facts.

As always, it comes down to nuance. And, with all instances of nuance, one person may view it differently than another. That doesn't make either view "correct" only that one view prevailed in the mind of the judge and he has no choice but to act according to the law.

This is called justice.

It was poor wording.

What I meant was that I do understand people's strong emotions and anger related to the subject, since too many men got away with it.

But we shouldn’t operate under the "guilty until proven innocent" premise either.

 

[HisArpy]

First off, she didn't say all men are rapists. That's just a lame attempt at deflection.

Second, calling attention to some clear problems with the way that law enforcement (untested rape kits) and the justice system (overly lenient judges) actually would help solve and prevent rapes if those issues were actually addressed.

Instead, you prefer to blame her for somehow "trivializing" the issue when she did no such thing.

Do you want to try and respond to what she actually posted again, preferably using your brain this time?

Let's start with the premise "another man getting away with rape." IF the "man" is found not guilty of rape, or pleads to a lesser charge because the prosecutor couldn't prove rape, how did he "get away with it"? Unless you're trying to imply the justice system favors men in ALL cases of rape. In which case, how does that help rape victims? How does that solve crimes of rape? How does it make the harm go away?

It doesn't. Speaking nonsense about how "another man" got away with rape after being brought to trial does NOTHING to help real victims or prevent future incidents of rape.

What it does is make it harder for prosecutors to prove rape because normal people start to be jaded by the constant screaming of "rape! rape! rape!" by people like Adrina.

But, did YOU think of any of that? Or did you just engage your keyboard in outrage from someone trying to discuss the subject matter without resorting to an emotional plea for attention?

 

[HisArpy]

Thanks for playing.

Spew crap. Get called on it. Default to deflection.

Again, please find a quote or find your corner to sit in.

Deflection?

LOLLOLLOLLOL!

The ONLY ONE here deflecting is you. As soon as you're called on your bullshit, you immediately go ad hominem because you can't back up your vitriol.

You want to discuss the subject of how to prevent rape in the future? Then STOP with the "you're a misogynist" and other bullshit labels crap you constantly throw around.

 

[Notcastor]

Adrina keeps saying rape isnt sex, it’s assault.

Let’s go with that.

College students get charged with assault from drunken party scraps all the time and many of those charges are plead down to nothing charges... and rightly so.

A punch in the nose or a penis in your puss.... aren’t they on the same scale of wrongness?

Crickets. Reality has no place on the GB Forum

 

[Aglaopheme]

How in the world did you even get that from what I posted? My comments or the DA's?

With out having access to all the information that has been hidden I can't say the judge did a bad job or not. The DA said she just couldn't make the case beyond a reasonable doubt. Like I said earlier, reading between the lines and a bunch of speculation on my part I'd say he got his buddies to lie for him. Since we are a country of laws, if the DA can't prove rape beyond a reasonable doubt (she said in one of the linked articles that she was afraid the young man would be exonerated if they went to trial) she did the next best thing and took the plea deal. The law isn't perfect. Sometimes people can scam the system. I think this was one of those times. That doesn't make it any more palatable, but it's the way things happen sometimes.




Comshaw

It came from the DA’s email that I quoted in my post. I was just adding to the info you had gleaned from other articles.

Feazell said the plea deal came as a shock to him and Doe’s family, who said in a statement they were reassured by LaBorde that the case against Anderson was “cut and dry” and he would “definitely be convicted.”

In an email LaBorde sent the family, LaBorde says she offered the plea deal after losing a recent rape case in court. She drew similarities between Doe’s case and the other case and said she feared Anderson would be found not guilty.

“(The jury) engaged in a lot of victim blaming — and the behavior of that victim and (Doe) is very similar,” she said. “It’s my opinion that our jurors aren’t ready to blame rapists and not victims when there isn’t concrete proof of more than one victim.”


Read more here: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article222888435.html#storylink=cpy

 

[adrina]

Rape culture - when a woman can't express frustration about the appalling manner in which we as a society treat the atrocities of rape without being accused of hating men, screaming, pointing fingers, accusing all men of rape etc.

Fuck right off with your overly defensive, dismissive and condescending bullshit.

Some things bear repeating. Especially if the misogynistic shoe fits.

"Another" = "all"?

Not very precise for a lawyer.

And you laugh too much for it to be taken as anything but a presentation gambit.

Perhaps someone can find the time to educate you two asshats on these matters. Not like you'd listen. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.