How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[HelpImLost]

Lord thank you for sending and using people to spread your positive messages and please let everyone be WARMED by your word. Amen.

Awesome thread and I voted YES!!! In your poll!! They'll normalize evil but despise us and our God, but GOD ALWAYS WINS!

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[Led_Astray]

They'll normalize evil but despise us and our God,

Atheists despise your god as much as you despise The ancient Sumerian god Enki, the God of Creation, Intelligence, Crafts, Water, Seawater, Lakewater, Fertility, Magic and Mischief.

Which is to say, not at all, and for the same reason.

...but GOD ALWAYS WINS!

Except in every debate between the word of god and the discoveries of science. Historically, every time that such a disagreement was settled, it was settled on the side of science.

Which is one of the reasons the young earth creationists and the evolution deniers amuse me so much. Not only is every field of science (from astronomy to Zoology) not on their side, but neither is history...

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Lord thank you for sending and using people to spread your positive messages and please let everyone be WARMED by your word. Amen.

Awesome thread and I voted YES!!! In your poll!! They'll normalize evil but despise us and our God, but GOD ALWAYS WINS!

https://media.giphy.com/media/ijN0lQpvfoX28/giphy.gif

Wow! Thank you for your encouragement!

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

CHINA BULLDOZING CHURCHES, REPLACING HOLY IMAGERY

https://www.wnd.com/2018/09/china-bulldozing-churches-replacing-holy-imagery/

 

[Led_Astray]

We are posting news stories now? Ok!



Christian vigilantes wielding machetes have killed scores of Muslims.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

We are posting news stories now? Ok!



Christian vigilantes wielding machetes have killed scores of Muslims.

Could it be that the Christians are tired of being victims of the muslims and are just now beginning to fight back? The muslims have been slaughtering the Christians for years without provocation.

 

[NoBadDays1218]

Could it be that the Christians are tired of being victims of the muslims and are just now beginning to fight back? The muslims have been slaughtering the Christians for years without provocation.

Ever heard of the Christian Crusades ya goofball?

Organized religion is a fucking plague, a for-profit-and-power business, and business is booming.

Sorry to burst your bubble champ.

 

[Led_Astray]

Could it be that the Christians are tired of being victims of the muslims and are just now beginning to fight back? The muslims have been slaughtering the Christians for years without provocation.

That's unexpected - I didn't expect anyone to try to actually *justify* the violence. I mean, what happened to "Thou shalt not kill" etc?

I was expecting a No True Scotsman response, but to actually try to claim that the victims deserve it? Wow... that's a fine example of Christian Hypocrisy right there.

 

[IG_88]

Don't you fucks get tired of arguing in a circle? This thread like others similar to it just keep going and going but they're nothing more than a few people saying the same shit over and over and it's always dumb.

 

[IG_88]

No but Loki has one thing in common with Jesus. People think he faked his death in infinity wars.

Almost certainly. Loki never dies.

 

[Tryharder62]

Atheists despise your god as much as you despise The ancient Sumerian god Enki, the God of Creation, Intelligence, Crafts, Water, Seawater, Lakewater, Fertility, Magic and Mischief.

Which is to say, not at all, and for the same reason.

Except in every debate between the word of god and the discoveries of science. Historically, every time that such a disagreement was settled, it was settled on the side of science.

Which is one of the reasons the young earth creationists and the evolution deniers amuse me so much. Not only is every field of science (from astronomy to Zoology) not on their side, but neither is history...

Even though I am sure you have examples of when science won, I am going to call you out on the "every time" statement. The thing is that Science and Christianity are looking at two different ways of understanding our world. Science is looking to prove the natural world state of things while Christianity looks into the spiritual and supernatural. You don't have to be George Bush though. LOL. It doesn't have to be you are with us or you are against us. Some people look into both ways to find understanding.

Don't you fucks get tired of arguing in a circle? This thread like others similar to it just keep going and going but they're nothing more than a few people saying the same shit over and over and it's always dumb.

It's an addiction. I try to stop but then I think Led_Astray or Phrodeau might have another word of wisdom and I will miss it. It's hard for me not to point out that you are reading and commenting on these threads. Me thinks you might protest too much. In this case give into it and keep posting.

 

[Led_Astray]

Even though I am sure you have examples of when science won, I am going to call you out on the "every time" statement.

Then please, give your counter example. Give me an example of a settled debate between science and religion where religion has been accepted as the correct explanation.

You are right, though, I can give you plenty of examples where science won.

Religious stories were created to explain:
Thunder, Lightning, Earthquakes, The sun, The day/night cycle, The Lunar cycle. Rainbows, Fossils, Volcanoes. Science proved them wrong.

Not recent enough for you? Then let us look at Copernicus, whose idea that perhaps the earth wasn't the centre of the universe was rejected, in part, for not agreeing with the bible. And let us discuss Galileo Galilei's championing of Copernicus' theories, some 70 years later. These idea, based on scientific evidence, caused him to be accused of heresy and banned from advocating, teaching or even discussing the idea. And later led to his house arrest and the banning of his works, even ones he might write in the future.

And yet, as we know, he was correct.

But I await with bated breath your counter-example.

 

[Led_Astray]

Don't you fucks get tired of arguing in a circle? This thread like others similar to it just keep going and going but they're nothing more than a few people saying the same shit over and over and it's always dumb.

And yet, here you are. I have found something I can agree with Tryharder62 on, and for that, I thank you

 

[NoBadDays1218]

Then please, give your counter example. Give me an example of a settled debate between science and religion where religion has been accepted as the correct explanation.

You are right, though, I can give you plenty of examples where science won.

Religious stories were created to explain:
Thunder, Lightning, Earthquakes, The sun, The day/night cycle, The Lunar cycle. Rainbows, Fossils, Volcanoes. Science proved them wrong.

Not recent enough for you? Then let us look at Copernicus, whose idea that perhaps the earth wasn't the centre of the universe was rejected, in part, for not agreeing with the bible. And let us discuss Galileo Galilei's championing of Copernicus' theories, some 70 years later. These idea, based on scientific evidence, caused him to be accused of heresy and banned from advocating, teaching or even discussing the idea. And later led to his house arrest and the banning of his works, even ones he might write in the future.

And yet, as we know, he was correct.

But I await with bated breath your counter-example.

We all know that the Earth is flat and is, indeed, the center of the universe though.

Sooooo…...

 

[Tryharder62]

Then please, give your counter example. Give me an example of a settled debate between science and religion where religion has been accepted as the correct explanation.

You are right, though, I can give you plenty of examples where science won.

Religious stories were created to explain:
Thunder, Lightning, Earthquakes, The sun, The day/night cycle, The Lunar cycle. Rainbows, Fossils, Volcanoes. Science proved them wrong.

Not recent enough for you? Then let us look at Copernicus, whose idea that perhaps the earth wasn't the centre of the universe was rejected, in part, for not agreeing with the bible. And let us discuss Galileo Galilei's championing of Copernicus' theories, some 70 years later. These idea, based on scientific evidence, caused him to be accused of heresy and banned from advocating, teaching or even discussing the idea. And later led to his house arrest and the banning of his works, even ones he might write in the future.

And yet, as we know, he was correct.

But I await with bated breath your counter-example.

Well wait no more!!!!
(I want you to know that I treasure the post above that says you agree with me about something)

My answer is that no one is ever going to settle the debate between science and religion because they are out to do two different things. Science is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. So you would expect science to be better at the examples you gave. Religion is set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. Science does not do well on things like moral code.

That is why a person can be interested in both!

 

[Led_Astray]

Well wait no more!!!!
(I want you to know that I treasure the post above that says you agree with me about something)

My answer is that no one is ever going to settle the debate between science and religion because they are out to do two different things. Science is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment. So you would expect science to be better at the examples you gave.

So, in fact, even though you challenged my "every time" statement, you are not able to find a counter example?

But to take another tack now - if you agree that science is far better able to tackle such questions, why are there *still* people who attack the Theory of Evolution purely on the grounds that it contradicts the bible?

Science does not do well on things like moral code.

But religion does?

Well, lets take the worlds most popular religion as an example shall we? Christianity brought us the spanish inquisition, and the torturing of people to death because they might be witches. It brought us rules for beating your wife, and for how hard you can beat your slave (and that slaves should be content even if their master is cruel). It brought us homosexuals being sent to prison (Ooo! Homosexuality! Another thing religion tried to explain but that science explains better! - add it to the list).

It gave us specific instructions on how to treat the people you have conquered (including forcing yourself on their women) and that women should have to marry their rapist (whilst also saying that if discovered to be non-virgins on their wedding day, women should be stoned to death). Christianity taught us that its OK to get your dad drunk and have sex with him, but that if you happen to see your dad naked whilst trying to help is drunken ass to bed, you shall be cursed for all eternity.

It gave us men sitting on thrones of gold (or living in luxury mansions, or just building huge, expensive phallic stone towers) whilst others starve. It brought us churches that demand money from the congregation, then lock their doors to the homeless at night.

Religion as a source of morality? Why doesn't this forum have a ROFL emoticon?

 

[Libsam]

Science is man discovering, reverse engineering, God's creations.

 

[HelpImLost]

God is everything!

 

[Led_Astray]

God is everything!

Yup!

All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.

Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom.
He made their horrid wings.

All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.

Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid
Who made the spikey urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!

All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.

Amen.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

God is everything!

He is behind everything good.

 

[HelpImLost]

Yup!

All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.

Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom.
He made their horrid wings.

All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.

Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid
Who made the spikey urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!

All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.

Amen.

You always take such effort to write your little posts, constantly.
Why are you wicked and corrupt atheists, or whatever you are... so OBSESSED, and follow those of us who are trying to be good and holy? You know, I remember learning in school years ago how demons fixate on good, holy souls.

 

[jp55665566]

You always take such effort to write your little posts, constantly.
Why are you wicked and corrupt atheists, or whatever you are... so OBSESSED, and follow those of us who are trying to be good and holy? You know, I remember learning in school years ago how demons fixate on good, holy souls.

Not demons, just confused human beings. If really doesn't matter. God loves us always. All of us. Always.

 

[phrodeau]

Yup!

All things dull and ugly,
All creatures short and squat,
All things rude and nasty,
The Lord God made the lot.

Each little snake that poisons,
Each little wasp that stings,
He made their brutish venom.
He made their horrid wings.

All things sick and cancerous,
All evil great and small,
All things foul and dangerous,
The Lord God made them all.

Each nasty little hornet,
Each beastly little squid
Who made the spikey urchin?
Who made the sharks? He did!

All things scabbed and ulcerous,
All pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous,
The Lord God made them all.

Amen.

See page 127.

 

[Led_Astray]

You always take such effort to write your little posts, constantly.
Why are you wicked and corrupt atheists, or whatever you are... so OBSESSED, and follow those of us who are trying to be good and holy? You know, I remember learning in school years ago how demons fixate on good, holy souls.

Actually, that one was just a quick google search followed by a cut and paste job.

But yes, usually I do put effort in to my posts. That's what one does when having a debate. Identify the flaws in your opponent's argument, point them out, provide counter examples. I enjoy a good debate, and whilst you are not giving one, Tryharder is, so really I'm posting for her benefit, not yours.

Wheras, you have stooped to insults and personal attacks, calling me wicked, and corrupt, and implying I am a demon (or at least, somewhat demonic).

And obsessed with you? No (though if your profile is genuine you sound kinda cute) . I'd respond to anybody starting a post putting their religion (and thus, themselves) on a pedestal above all others. It just happens that right now, you are the one doing that kind of posting.