Zombie Apocalypse

[jeninflorida]

Well, its that time of year again! Freaking this year is flying by.


Anyway, lets talk about zombies! Would you try to outrun the wave of the dead, or would you seek shelter and hunker down till its over? For those who built a y2k bunker, are you better off trying to hide from the zombie or should one go out and kill the dead?

Thoughts?

Bunker...or Run?

 

[MTPersson]

Well, its that time of year again! Freaking this year is flying by.


Anyway, lets talk about zombies! Would you try to outrun the wave of the dead, or would you seek shelter and hunker down till its over? For those who built a y2k bunker, are you better off trying to hide from the zombie or should one go out and kill the dead?

Thoughts?

Bunker...or Run?

Are we talking fast zombies or slow, lumbering ones?

 

[jeninflorida]

Are we talking fast zombies or slow, lumbering ones?

I'm thinking the fast ones! wait, they have fast ones on The Walking Dead right? crap, can't remember Ill ask on twitter

 

[iwatchmywife]

I'm thinking the fast ones! wait, they have fast ones on The Walking Dead right? crap, can't remember Ill ask on twitter

Actually, the ones on "Walking Dead" are kind of medium speed, IMO. When fresh, some can scale fences. But I've never seen one outright run. Mind you, I'm catching up and just watched episode one of season 2.

As well as speed of movement, another important consideration is speed of decomposition. Then there's the question of where you are at the moment. If you're in the countryside, staying ahead of them would probably be easy. Live in Manhattan? No way you're getting out, better hope you can hunker down 'til their numbers have been reduced.

 

[MTPersson]

I'd head for the country whichever type.

Cities have lots of people = lots of zombies, whereas countryside is sparser.

 

[MSTarot]

I'd head for the country whichever type.

Cities have lots of people = lots of zombies, whereas countryside is sparser.

Yea but then you get Zombies that play banjos


"Surrre haasss gott a purttty mmoouthh."


I played around with the zombie idea in a story. Kind a, sort a.

http://www.literotica.com/s/the-perfect-perfume

 

[MTPersson]

Yea but then you get Zombies that play banjos


"Surrre haasss gott a purttty mmoouthh."


I played around with the zombie idea in a story. Kind a, sort a.

http://www.literotica.com/s/the-perfect-perfume

ZOMBIE COWS!!!! AARGGGHHHH!!!!!!

 

[Button_eyes]

Not that I've ever put any thought into this but.... Run. Get a SUV or similar and head as far North as possible, avoiding main routes. North because statistically it's less densely populated and mainly because it's freezing, which I'm reliably informed zombies hate ;-) . And make sure you take lots of guns, more ammo and aim for the head, always.

 

[Sean Renaud]

It really depends on the breed of zombie, how bad it gets how fast.

Where I live there are no locations that I think could be reliably defended for more than a couple of days and that's hoping that the zombies aren't particularly interested in them. I don't have the advantage of the big city with lots of hiding places nor the advantage of the countryside and plenty of wide open places.

Assuming I survive round one I'm moving out of the city and get to some of the local camp grounds. Food, water, shelter, seclusion and barricades every half mile on the roads up and I should be good until it's time to start the reclaiming of the big cities after about two years.

 

[Anwar80]

Can anyone recommend good Zombie anthologies ?

 

[Bramblethorn]

Not that I've ever put any thought into this but.... Run. Get a SUV or similar and head as far North as possible, avoiding main routes. North because statistically it's less densely populated and mainly because it's freezing, which I'm reliably informed zombies hate ;-) . And make sure you take lots of guns, more ammo and aim for the head, always.

...you need to see "Dead Snow" ;-)

Cold might slow everybody down, but remember, it also preserves zombies. They can wait.

 

[MTPersson]

How about setting up base camp on an island? Cleanse it of zombies to begin with a rebuild there.

Can zombies swim? drown?

What about zombie ducks?

 

[Button_eyes]

...you need to see "Dead Snow" ;-)

Cold might slow everybody down, but remember, it also preserves zombies. They can wait.

<nods head sagely>, good point. However, science (are we allowed to refer to science in a wholly un-scientific, utterly unprovable discussion?!), science would suggest that cells degrade significantly after being frozen, and theoretically once the zombie had melted, they'd be more of a slush-zombie than a normal zombie. Maybe.

 

[Anwar80]

Looks like no one have any good Zombie anthologies to recommend!

 

[MatthewVett]

What drives others' fascination with zombies? I confess, I've never had an interest in them.

I think part of it is that, knowing about body farms and what they study, it just breaks my suspension of disbelief to imagine corpses remaining not only solid, but animate, for so long. Even in your body, your cells are outnumbered 10-1 by bacteria, and once you die, they feed.

 

[Bramblethorn]

What drives others' fascination with zombies? I confess, I've never had an interest in them.

I think part of it is that, knowing about body farms and what they study, it just breaks my suspension of disbelief to imagine corpses remaining not only solid, but animate, for so long. Even in your body, your cells are outnumbered 10-1 by bacteria, and once you die, they feed.

Leaving aside "it's magic", several of the zombie films I've seen get around this by presenting zombies as not really dead. IIRC, "A Zombie Nurse In Love" presented it as a sort of spectrum condition that develops gradually after a bite, and I don't think the victims died during the process although it's been a while since I've seen it. 28 Days Later never actually calls itself a zombie film, but it's not fooling anybody; in that one, the effect is caused by some sort of rabies-like illness, and it's indicated that the zombies will eventually die from malnutrition/neglect, although it takes a long time.

One problem with things like "Night of the Living Dead" that rely on animation of those who are already dead is that, as you suggest, there aren't actually enough fresh dead bodies around to make for much of a threat. Most are either buried deep enough down to have trouble getting out, or cremated, within a few days; if you suppose the average dead body is around for a week before being disposed of, that makes about one zombie for every 4000 people, which seems pretty manageable - they really have to be contagious to present much of a threat.

 

[Bramblethorn]

What drives others' fascination with zombies? I confess, I've never had an interest in them.

And realising I never addressed this first question... I'm sure different people have different answers, but some thoughts on that.

For some people, I think it's a similar attraction to the one exerted by any other film where the heroes are allowed to kill large numbers of mooks without any qualms of conscience (see also: The Matrix, Commando, etc etc etc). They're like humans, but we've established they don't count as people, so you can live out those trigger-happy fantasies without feeling like a monster.

OTOH, some zombie movies subvert this. For my money, the most horrific moment in 28DL is when one of the Infected speaks - a reminder that it's not just a mindless enemy, there's still some remnant of humanity there. And "Last Man On Earth" went a lot further in a similar direction.

I think if you've ever seen the body of someone you knew, there's a huge amount of dissonance to deal with: it's so very much like the person you remember, and yet completely missing the most important part. I think if you're wrestling with that dissonance, it's very easy to wonder whether the dead body still holds any memory of the animation and thoughts it used to have, and zombies can be a way to explore that.

Zombies can also be a way to represent human desires. Their motivations are basic, but they're usually quite familiar to humans: hunger, maybe anger, occasionally lust depending on the story.

(I once had a dream where I was caught up in a zombie outbreak. I woke up in the middle of a zombie horde, alongside somebody who IRL was a girlfriend. I gradually realised that I was only pretending to be a zombie... and that she knew, but wasn't going to expose me. I have no idea what THAT symbolises.)

 

[Button_eyes]

Looks like no one have any good Zombie anthologies to recommend!

Sorry, meant to add this: Zombie: an anthology of the Undead, by Christopher Golden. You could also have a look at World War Z by Max Brooks - not an anthology but a really good zombie read.

 

[MSTarot]

I have no idea what THAT symbolises.)

That your subconscious believed she cared enough to be loyal to you even after death.

It's also probable a good sign you shouldn't eat pizza that late at night.

Nods sagely. Been there.


I think looking at the horror movies genre we get a look into the most primitive parts of our minds.We see the things that our cave dwelling ancestors feared.

Vampires, zombies... the idea of being fed upon.Hell even the movie Jaws used this. The idea of something looking at us as food, gives us shivers.

Movies like Friday the Thirteenth, Halloween, even Nightmare on Elm street use the idea of something that no mater what we do we can't stop it or defend ourselves against it. Being weak and helpless in the face of something more powerful.

With zombies there is also a far more primitive fear. The fear of the dead. Even to this day we really don't understand it. And we fear the unknown more than anything.

Well the dark might be a close second. Why else spend millions to light the night even at times when everyone is asleep.


There is a camp site that we use in the SCA in Lumberton Mississippi. We go down there once a year for an event called Gulf Wars. About 5000 plus show up for it. great time.

The household I camp with also gets access to the site through out the year. We went down there one fall. I was walking down to the bath house to get a quick shower. It was a bit after midnight and it's about a half mile walk through the woods.

I'm 6'1" and 270 pounds. Construction worker, fairly heavy muscled.

By the time I got there I was more than a little afraid. Just the dark and the sounds of the woods at night. Now my brain knew there wasn't anything out there. But my instincts said I should be scared so I was.

Personally though i like my horror in a different light.

http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/cassandra-peterson-picture-10577794.htm

For some reason the idea of being fed upon by her just isn't that bad. Grin.

M.S.Tarot

 

[jeninflorida]

Actually, the ones on "Walking Dead" are kind of medium speed, IMO. When fresh, some can scale fences. But I've never seen one outright run. Mind you, I'm catching up and just watched episode one of season 2.

As well as speed of movement, another important consideration is speed of decomposition. Then there's the question of where you are at the moment. If you're in the countryside, staying ahead of them would probably be easy. Live in Manhattan? No way you're getting out, better hope you can hunker down 'til their numbers have been reduced.

wow, this thread became popular.....

Anyway, I'm going to go with Fast Zombies, at least the ones that are "fresh" this way, people die...and people are forced with difficult decisions. makes for better drama and conflict and will always keep the reader guessing

 

[NASCARaddicted]

Well, since this is Literotica ...

what about this: let's say there is a woman. She is in this building and suddenly, she is facing a zombie. She has no way to run, and she has no weapons, so she has to come up with another way to distract the zombie.
So, in her desperation, she rips of her clothes and shows the zombie her naked body ... and it works. Now the zombie doesn't want to kill and eat her anymore - right now he wants to fuck her ...