Zapped by Under 18 Rule

[Allen_X_Miller]

I recently had a story rejected because it included high school age characters. I'm bummed because I thought it was a good story and it got a good response from readers for the few days it was live. I'm pretty sure plenty of consensual sex happens among high-schoolers in real life.

Oh, well. Since it was in "Loving Wives" I wonder if it was reported by one of the trolls or incels that always attack my efforts.

I'm not protesting the rule, I just regret putting so much effort and anticipation into a story only to discover that I was ignorant of the rule. I certainly have no interest in writing about truly underage activities. I thought about editing it because I don't want to miss out on all the fame and fortune I would get here, but that would pretty well gut the whole story.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

Sad, but it happens.

Could you not edit to make it a college tale or is high school specially significant?

 

[TadOverdon]

We've gotten by with a few high school characters by identifying them as seniors and stating clearly if somewhat repetitively that they're eighteen years old. The high school environment just worked for what we were writing.

 

[KeithD]

Community College or a trade school can provide the same vibe as high school without the age problem.

 

[NotWise]

My First Time story "Hurricane Twyla" not only has all-high school characters, but a lot of the story takes place in high school. Admittedly, it's the last day of classes for seniors, and the characters are seniors, and (but for one oversight) I made sure that a discerning reader could tell they were over eighteen; one had a gift card from her birthday and two were carded by the police who judged them to be adult.

 

[SimonDoom]

There are a gazillion stories about high schoolers having sex on this Site. It makes no sense at all that your story should be rejected just for that reason. If they're all high school seniors, and you have a disclaimer that they're over 18, and in the body of the story you say they are over 18, then it should be fine.

If I were you I wouldn't throw in the towel. Look it over with a fine-tooth comb and clean up any potential problems, and then resubmit with a private message to Laurel. It should be OK. If it's not, then there's something very messed up with the way the criteria are being applied.

 

[EVSardis]

I recently had a story rejected because it included high school age characters. I'm bummed because I thought it was a good story and it got a good response from readers for the few days it was live. I'm pretty sure plenty of consensual sex happens among high-schoolers in real life.

Oh, well. Since it was in "Loving Wives" I wonder if it was reported by one of the trolls or incels that always attack my efforts.

I'm not protesting the rule, I just regret putting so much effort and anticipation into a story only to discover that I was ignorant of the rule. I certainly have no interest in writing about truly underage activities. I thought about editing it because I don't want to miss out on all the fame and fortune I would get here, but that would pretty well gut the whole story.

You give the trolls/incels too much credit if you think they actually read the stories.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

You give the trolls/incels too much credit if you think they actually read the stories.

For the win!

 

[Comshaw]

I recently had a story rejected because it included high school age characters. I'm bummed because I thought it was a good story and it got a good response from readers for the few days it was live. I'm pretty sure plenty of consensual sex happens among high-schoolers in real life.

Oh, well. Since it was in "Loving Wives" I wonder if it was reported by one of the trolls or incels that always attack my efforts.

I'm not protesting the rule, I just regret putting so much effort and anticipation into a story only to discover that I was ignorant of the rule. I certainly have no interest in writing about truly underage activities. I thought about editing it because I don't want to miss out on all the fame and fortune I would get here, but that would pretty well gut the whole story.

As has been said multiple times here, if you clearly and plainly see they are 18 as seniors, it should work fine. I've done it a number of times. That is the site rule, over the age of 18 no matter if they are in high school or not. Edit your story to make it plain they are 18-year old seniors and it will conform to the rule.


Comshaw

 

[gunhilltrain]

Just find a site that has a lower age of consent. I know of two. (Not that one that has no rules at all; that one gets ridiculous.)

One of the reasons I've joined other sites is that I couldn't stand this 18-year nitpicking. If I want to write coming-of-age stories, then I just do it elsewhere.

 

[XerXesXu]

As has been said multiple times here, if you clearly and plainly see they are 18 as seniors, it should work fine. I've done it a number of times. That is the site rule, over the age of 18 no matter if they are in high school or not. Edit your story to make it plain they are 18-year old seniors and it will conform to the rule.


Comshaw

I've just read a story where an adolescent, who later in the story grows into a high school senior, but during his sexual awakening, jerks off fantasising that there is a red ring of his mothers lipstick around his cock. I shan't say where, except that it's on Lit, and far from ancient. I can imagine the confusion this can cause to, would-be authors, who read material they're told they can't publish.

The written rule is nothing under 18. The unwritten rule is, submit and you may be lucky. If not, amend and resubmit.

 

[NotWise]

I've just read a story where an adolescent, who later in the story grows into a high school senior, but during his sexual awakening, jerks off fantasising that there is a red ring of his mothers lipstick around his cock. I shan't say where, except that it's on Lit, and far from ancient. I can imagine the confusion this can cause to, would-be authors, who read material they're told they can't publish.

The written rule is nothing under 18. The unwritten rule is, submit and you may be lucky. If not, amend and resubmit.

Don't know the story. A lot can depend on how it's written. From your description, it shouldn't get through the rules.

You have the reporting tool on every story. Your choice when you find something like that is to support the site by reporting it, or support the author by ignoring it. There's no middle ground.

 

[KeithD]

You have the reporting tool on every story. Your choice when you find something like that is to support the site by reporting it, or support the author by ignoring it. There's no middle ground.

This.

"Well I know of one that got through, so . . ." is not a legitimate--or even adult--excuse to feel justified to do it yourself here, where the rule is clear, the scrutiny is loose, and the issue is plastered across the discussion board every third day.

 

[XerXesXu]

Don't know the story. A lot can depend on how it's written. From your description, it shouldn't get through the rules.

You have the reporting tool on every story. Your choice when you find something like that is to support the site by reporting it, or support the author by ignoring it. There's no middle ground.

It's not my place to take sides. You seem to see your role differently, that's fine.

 

[NotWise]

It's not my place to take sides. You seem to see your role differently, that's fine.

You are taking a side. There are only two possible actions. You either report it and support the site and it's rules, or you don't report it and support the author.

For the record, I've been really, really tempted to report stories, but I've chosen to support the author even when their story made my skin crawl.

 

[XerXesXu]

You are taking a side. There are only two possible actions. You either report it and support the site and it's rules, or you don't report it and support the author.

For the record, I've been really, really tempted to report stories, but I've chosen to support the author even when their story made my skin crawl.

A strange worldview, but that's fine. Let's not go to CRT.

 

[SimonDoom]

You are taking a side. There are only two possible actions. You either report it and support the site and it's rules, or you don't report it and support the author.

For the record, I've been really, really tempted to report stories, but I've chosen to support the author even when their story made my skin crawl.

I'm not quite sure I agree. One of the reasons is that I think what's at stake is completely unimportant. I've never reported a story for being in violation of content rules, and I suspect I never will. It's not that I support the author. It's that I don't care. The Site can have whatever rules it wants to, and that's fine with me. But I have no responsibility for enforcing its rules.

If I saw a story on Literotica that had somehow slipped by Laurel and involved violent pedophilia, I would take a different view. But I've never seen anything remotely like that at Literotica, so it's speculative. The stories that get by are more of the "coming of age" type stories involving post-pubescent high school students. I personally have no objection to those stories. To me, it's silly that people get bothered by those stories. If Literotica wants to set an 18-year old limit, then fine, but it's not something to moralize about. Teenagers have sex. It's not a big deal.

So if I choose not to report a story, it's not because I support the author, it's because I think it's not important. The Site can do what it wants to do but I have no obligation to help it enforce whatever it wants to do.

 

[KeithD]

After a while, evidence that the Web site is loose about it and is happy both to make communications with users hard (some say they've experienced impossible) and seems quite happy for the other users to be left to deal with helping burned attempted writers with the issue, does lead to a "just don't care to be part of the police" outlook on the issue.

Beyond that, I'm tired of the pretense that the high school card isn't just underage signaling. It's not really my issue if it gets posted here. All sorts of other taboo stuff gets posted here. I'm just happy that I can post the writing fetishes I do here. (There are some I take elsewhere.)

 

[XerXesXu]

Don't know the story. A lot can depend on how it's written. From your description, it shouldn't get through the rules.

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I've just re-read the story. On a careful reading, all his sexual development takes place 'After his last birthday" and when he was 'no longer a straggly teenager, but a handsome young man' in his senior year.

 

[NotWise]

I've just re-read the story. On a careful reading, all his sexual development takes place 'After his last birthday" and when he was 'no longer a straggly teenager, but a handsome young man' in his senior year.

OK then.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

You give the trolls/incels too much credit if you think they actually read the stories.

^^^^ Truth.

And most of the time by their comments you can tell they haven't. Most do provide me with a good laugh and then I just delete their comments, because I can and they can't.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

You are taking a side. There are only two possible actions. You either report it and support the site and it's rules, or you don't report it and support the author.

For the record, I've been really, really tempted to report stories, but I've chosen to support the author even when their story made my skin crawl.

I have only reported one story. It was one submitted way back in the early two thousands and was probably submitted before any scripts were were written to scan stories for infractions of the rules.

It was an okay story, right up until the time the wife got it on the their german shepard dog. I just went Huh?!?! Then clicked the report button. I had to actually check to see what site I was on first though.

 

[lovecraft68]

Seeing there's a sticky about this now maybe what should be zapped is the threads about underage and make believe enforced by whim rules that lead to the same endless conversation and arguments.

I know new authors come here all the time and haven't heard it yet, but there's nothing to hear other than "no under 18 allowed, so please ignore the countless under aged stories on the site" followed by "their site their rules and don't like it leave"

That is every one of these threads ad infinitum

 

[NotWise]

Have you read the sticky? It's contains more repudiation than information.

 

[MillieDynamite]

I just keep repeating, "No one is curious about sex until they are eighteen."

No, wait, "There's no place like sex."

or is it, "It's only sex."

Um maybe it's "Don't look in mommy and daddy's bedroom."

Well, I keep repeating something to remind me.