Yucking others' yum

[HurtMyselfToday]

I'm sure there have been discussions/complaints about people hating on genres they don't like. I'm guessing we all mostly agree that's not cool so I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here but I just witnessed something that really made me stop and question the psychology of the haters.

I was reading a story about a mother and son falling in love. Not my thing. Sex is plausible but incest loses me when they fall in love. I never rate stories that stray outside my interests though. Not my thing so who am I to judge whether or not it was good. But I started reading the comments and was shocked when someone complained about a scene where the son, who was falling for his single mother, saw her kissing a man and got jealous. The commenter said that the single MOTHER kissing a man "ruined her character" and turned the SON who had a crush on his mom into a CUCK. And he wasn't the only one expressing this sentiment. The absurdity really made me chuckle with dismay for humanity.

I've noticed a lot of hate for all things cucky and I get not liking it, but the hate has always seemed so irrational and almost forced, prompting the inevitable overcompensating questions. But this one really took the cake. A son being jealous of his mom kissing a man in the incest category = cuck? And this really drives people to rush to the comment section to declare the love interest (EVEN WHEN IT'S A MOM) to be a whore and to clarify that they, Anonymous, are not a cucks for reading this story. Who hurt these people?

 

[alohadave]

The hardcore incest crowd gets really upset when the women have any kind of contact with men other than the son.

It's kind of hilarious when you see them get all bent out of shape over it.

 

[RejectReality]

There's just as much hate for a son that does something like have anal sex with his mother, because it's disrespectful to do that.

But for some reason, cucking Dad is perfectly acceptable.

I/T can be a minefield. There's a set of complex morals amongst the readership that can be baffling to many.

 

[NotWise]

I had a cuckold comment like that once. I can't remember which story it was, but I would have deleted the comment anyway. It was something very odd, like he imagined a relationship that wasn't in the story, and then launched his cuck complaint against his own creation. That's really reaching for something to complain about.

Readers come with all sorts of baggage, but imagine how boring the world would be if we all thought the same.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

The majority of readers on lit are not interested in reading someone's story. They only want someone else to recite the personal fantasy that they themselves are too lazy to write. If your story doesn't recite this fantasy back to them and/or fucks up one of the details, the reaction will be negative.

 

[SimonDoom]

I've written plenty of incest stories, and seen this kind of thing all the time. Incest readers can be a persnickety lot, in funny ways. The "no self respecting mom would let her son touch her asshole" thing is hilarious.

I think it's very Oedipal, too. Readers like the idea of the son taking over and possessing the mom, and they don't want her to be shared with anyone else.

 

[lovecraft68]

This has nothing to do with the standard incest crowd, the comment came from one of the 'I'm a real man and everything is cheating and all men except me are cucks" crowd. See them all the time in LW which they have infested, but they do drift around from time to time.

As for the incest crowd in general, there are purists who want everything to be between the family members, but if the story is decent and has a reason someone else is involved, they're not usually that hard on it, or if they are, they're not as rude

Moving forward, the tell is anyone that uses 'cuck' is one of the first types I mentioned. Has nothing to do with category and everything to do with their fake morals.

 

[lovecraft68]

I've written plenty of incest stories, and seen this kind of thing all the time. Incest readers can be a persnickety lot, in funny ways. The "no self respecting mom would let her son touch her asshole" thing is hilarious.

I think it's very Oedipal, too. Readers like the idea of the son taking over and possessing the mom, and they don't want her to be shared with anyone else.

The term for this is sexism, there's a difference between that and what you're saying, but I won't waste my breath because you're never wrong in your mind.

 

[lovecraft68]

There's just as much hate for a son that does something like have anal sex with his mother, because it's disrespectful to do that.

But for some reason, cucking Dad is perfectly acceptable.

I/T can be a minefield. There's a set of complex morals amongst the readership that can be baffling to many.

Hard to call a category with median score well over 4 a mine field.

It has the same type of factions as any other category, with the same oddly morality takes, that really come down to personal preferences, but as a whole, the category is fairly easy going.

The one I get from time to time is they don't like that I make my mothers dirty talkers during sex. They can suck their son's cocks, but they can't say they like sucking his cock.

I've had mothers start the story with another man, son's having sex with a girlfriend before the taboo occurs, a son and his GF with the mother, etc...and they all have good scores.

The cheating thing-real or perceived-exists in some form in many stories in every genre, and only one type of person calls that out no matter where it is.

When it comes to infidelity, those are not the category purists, they're someone with a set agenda and belief that prowl the site to whine.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

The cheating thing-real or perceived-exists in some form in many stories in every genre, and only one type of person calls that out no matter where it is.

Romance has a different kind of infidelity hater.

 

[lovecraft68]

Romance has a different kind of infidelity hater.

I'll take your word for it, no surprise that its not my genre (But I do have a Blue W in it somehow) I imagine its because its supposed to be romance, which in real life is imperfect and can be an outright train wreck, but to the fairy tale purist, that's exactly what it is, an HEA fairy tale.

 

[SimonDoom]

because you're never wrong in your mind.

Probably the most perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black in Literotica history. This is you, to a tee.

 

[lovecraft68]

Probably the most perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black in Literotica history. This is you, to a tee.

I'd entertain the possibility on some things, but usually say things like "For me" or "IMO" or just state something and let it go. You'll go on and on and on with anyone who keeps doing the same and get increasingly frustrated when they don't buy what they're selling.

End of the day, if someone thinks I'm wrong, I can live with it and let it go, same can't be said of you. Especially on the topic I just mentioned. You are who you are, and there's nothing wrong with that, you just don't like to see it.

 

[SimonDoom]

I'd entertain the possibility on some things, but usually say things like "For me" or "IMO" or just state something and let it go. You'll go on and on and on with anyone who keeps doing the same and get increasingly frustrated when they don't buy what they're selling.

End of the day, if someone thinks I'm wrong, I can live with it and let it go, same can't be said of you. Especially on the topic I just mentioned. You are who you are, and there's nothing wrong with that, you just don't like to see it.

LC, take your meds and have a nice day!

 

[gunhilltrain]

I've written plenty of incest stories, and seen this kind of thing all the time. Incest readers can be a persnickety lot, in funny ways. The "no self respecting mom would let her son touch her asshole" thing is hilarious.

I think it's very Oedipal, too. Readers like the idea of the son taking over and possessing the mom, and they don't want her to be shared with anyone else.

It's certainly Oedipal, which somebody (Freud?) said we grow out of at an early age. Wishful thinking on his part, I think. As shown on this site, people vividly respond to their earlier memories. Sisters seem to run a distant second.

My own take on it is that I can only write about stepmoms, step-aunts, and so forth. Arguably taboo, but I find it acceptable as a topic for myself. Teachers, neighbors, and so forth are also good choices. The older woman-younger man dynamic is the most interesting part, especially if some kind of kink is revealed. Usually it starts as a corporal punishment that reveals their sexuality. (Not an original thought by any means.) That would have been interesting in The Graduate, but hey, it was 1967,

But I can't do blood relatives but I think that's fine. Most of us have have lines that we just want to cross in fiction.

 

[pink_silk_glove]

End of the day, if someone thinks I'm wrong, I can live with it and let it go, same can't be said of you.

I'll second that.

 

[SimonDoom]

But I can't do blood relatives but I think that's fine. Most have have lines that we just want to cross in fiction.

I can understand that. I can enjoy it because I don't take Literotica incest too seriously. I see it as a fun, naughty romp.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I can understand that. I can enjoy it because I don't take Literotica incest too seriously. I see it as a fun, naughty romp.

I don't know if you can take anything on Lit too seriously. But it can still be a fun, naughty romp as in this story where a guy is seduced by his girlfriend's aunt. She specifically refers to Mrs. Robinson (I think this is in 1974) as not being her role model, basically because she's too mean-spirited.

https://classic.literotica.com/s/bronx-park-east-ch-07

I wonder if someone here should do an update of The Graduate. Would different character names be required by the site? Anyway, among other things, Mrs. Robinson projects a dominatrix vibe that I doubt her husband could comprehend. I might keep the 1967 California setting.

 

[SimonDoom]

I don't know if you can take anything of Lit too seriously. But it can still be a fun, naughty romp as in this story where a guy is seduced by his girlfriend's aunt. Anyway, she specifically refers to Mrs. Robinson (I think this is in 1974) as not being her role model, basically because she's too mean-spirited.

https://classic.literotica.com/s/bronx-park-east-ch-07

I wonder if someone here should do an update of The Graduate. Would different character names be required by the site? Anyway, among other things, Mrs. Robinson projects a dominatrix vibe that I doubt her husband could comprehend. I might keep the 1967 California setting.

I think you could take the broad elements of the story and write your own erotic version of it without worrying that you were doing something wrong or violating the rules. Change all the names and the plot details. It's a great story so a Lit version could be a lot of fun.

 

[lovecraft68]

It's certainly Oedipal, which somebody (Freud?) said we grow out of at an early age. Wishful thinking on his part, I think. As shown on this site, people vividly respond to their earlier memories. Sisters seem to run a distant second.

My own take on it is that I can only write about stepmoms, step-aunts, and so forth. Arguably taboo, but I find it acceptable as a topic for myself. Teachers, neighbors, and so forth are also good choices. The older woman-younger man dynamic is the most interesting part, especially if some kind of kink is revealed. Usually it starts as a corporal punishment that reveals their sexuality. (Not an original thought by any means.) That would have been interesting in The Graduate, but hey, it was 1967,

But I can't do blood relatives but I think that's fine. Most of us have have lines that we just want to cross in fiction.

But Oedipal is a fixation on one's mother-the male equivalent to daddy issues. But fixation and desire, don't necessarily lead to outright wanting to possess them. That gets down to the individual, on whether or not they're an insecure male who are the ones who have possessive behaviors, others deal with it differently. Mosty who have any unhealthy fixation on someone also deal with a lot of conflict which also steers away from possessive because in their mind its "I want her, but...I know she's not mine so..." and that's why if unchecked these things can do a number on someone's psyche.

But this doesn't have to be overthought because I've seen plenty of proof across the board here that anyone tossing the term cuck around is not someone upset from a category sub faction, but the all around every woman is a cheating whore and every guy who doesn't hurt them and get even is a simp cuck crowd.

I get them in my milf stories because oh, no, the woman is the one calling the shots and the 20 year old kid is letting her,. such a simp!

This is not about category, just a type of troll, and I'll leave off with that, because its not worth going round and round on.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I think you could take the broad elements of the story and write your own erotic version of it without worrying that you were doing something wrong or violating the rules. Change all the names and the plot details. It's a great story so a Lit version could be a lot of fun.

Hey Simon, give me a couple of minutes to finish these posts!

I got away with an erotic version of Meet Me in St. Louis where I did keep the names and a lot of the plot details. I even used the real-life 5135 Kensington Avenue address that is in the movie. At the end, I had a note about the original author, Sally Kenson who did live at that address. The site rules on that are kind of vague, but maybe I missed something.

 

[gunhilltrain]

There's just as much hate for a son that does something like have anal sex with his mother, because it's disrespectful to do that.

But for some reason, cucking Dad is perfectly acceptable.

I/T can be a minefield. There's a set of complex morals amongst the readership that can be baffling to many.

The whole point of Lit and other such sites is to reveal our underlying thoughts, to the degree allowed, to get away from the shame and secrecy that still exists in our society despite the Internet, the "Sexual Revolution," and so forth. It that way it is a cathartic experience, probably both for the authors and the readers.

 

[NotWise]

This has nothing to do with the standard incest crowd, the comment came from one of the 'I'm a real man and everything is cheating and all men except me are cucks" crowd. See them all the time in LW which they have infested, but they do drift around from time to time.

As for the incest crowd in general, there are purists who want everything to be between the family members, but if the story is decent and has a reason someone else is involved, they're not usually that hard on it, or if they are, they're not as rude

Moving forward, the tell is anyone that uses 'cuck' is one of the first types I mentioned. Has nothing to do with category and everything to do with their fake morals.

I've always thought of "cuck" comments as spill-over from the toxic crowd in LW.

Polyamory in general is something I've found gets negative comments in the I/T crowd, but it seems like those readers are a small minority. The stories still rate well.

Mostly I'm talking about a guy with his sister and her friend. I have one with a guy, his mother, and her friend and the readers are mostly OK with it. I'm considering a story that's a guy, his mother, and her younger companion, but that story probably won't be very popular 'cuz Mom's not "pure of heart" (or any other body part).

 

[SimonDoom]

Hey Simon, give me a couple of minutes to finish these posts!

I got away with an erotic version of Meet Me in St. Louis where I did keep the names and a lot of the plot details. I even used the real-life 5135 Kensington Avenue address that is in the movie. At the end, I had a note about the original author, Sally Kenson who did live at that address. The site rules on that are kind of vague, but maybe I missed something.

Oops. Sorry about that!

 

[RejectReality]

Hard to call a category with median score well over 4 a mine field.

It has the same type of factions as any other category, with the same oddly morality takes, that really come down to personal preferences, but as a whole, the category is fairly easy going.

The one I get from time to time is they don't like that I make my mothers dirty talkers during sex. They can suck their son's cocks, but they can't say they like sucking his cock.

I've had mothers start the story with another man, son's having sex with a girlfriend before the taboo occurs, a son and his GF with the mother, etc...and they all have good scores.

The cheating thing-real or perceived-exists in some form in many stories in every genre, and only one type of person calls that out no matter where it is.

When it comes to infidelity, those are not the category purists, they're someone with a set agenda and belief that prowl the site to whine.

Not so much score-wise, but people can be blindsided by how harshly readers will object to things they thought should have been a minor taboo compared to banging your mom. LOL