Young Lesbian Murderers and The Media

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A few days ago a tragedy happened in my local media market: Two 15 year old girls killed the grandparents of one of the girls and took off in their car. They were caught a day ago. The reason we learn now is that the grandparents had foribidden their kind of "un-natural" love.

Sad.

I do wonder though if the story will be reported outside of Atlanta. The national media seems obsessed with sordid stories about missing women, murder, and mayhem but will it be willing to treat this local story as a national one because it involves a taboo? I'm starting the countdown here.



http://www.365gay.com/newscon04/08/080504teenMurd.htm

A 15 year old suburban Atlanta, Georgia girl described as a cold blooded killer is accused of recruiting her 16 year old lover to help her murder her elderly grandparents.

When police finally caught up with Holly Harvey, they noticed she had jotted a do-do list on her forearm: kill, keys, money, jewelry, it said. Harvey allegedly cooked the plot to kill Carl and Sarah Collier, with whom she lived, because they had ordered her stop seeing Sandy Ketchum and give up drugs.

Investigators say that Harvey convinced Ketchum to help her. They describe Harvey as "stone cold" and a "manipulator".

Ketchum, armed with a knife, snuck into the home and hid under a bed until Harvey lured the elderly couple into the room.

The Collier's bodies were found in the basement. They had each been stabbed more than 15 times.

Police say that the girls had attempted to get some guns by calling friends they had met during their times in juvenile detention centers.

Investigators found a poem that Harvey had written in which she described how depressed she had been and that she cried herself to sleep. The poem contained the line, "All I want to do is kill."

The girls fled the home in the grandparent's sport utility vehicle. Police tracked them through the night as they made phone calls to friends, telling one they were on Interstate 16 heading for the Georgia coast.

When the girls were arrested near dawn Harvey laughed at arresting officers.

"She was callous and cocky," said Lt. Col. Bruce Jordan of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department. "She is the coldest and most heartless individual I've ever interviewed.

Jordan said that Harvey is refusing to cooperate with investigators but that Ketchum has been helpful.

"She was in it for the love," Jordan said.

"I believe the evidence at trial will be that the motive was to gain freedom and be able to stay together forever," he said.
 
I seem to remember another, almost exactly the same, story that was in the media briefly some time ago. It didn't get much national attention, so this one likely won't either.

I'll see if I can find a few more details on the other case.
 
This is about all I found on the Net.


Lesbian teens get life in prison
for killing of Detroit grandmother


DETROIT (AP) Two teenagers convict-
ed in the beating death of a grandmother
who opposed their lesbian relationship
were sentenced last week to spend the
rest of their lives in prison. Larketa
Collier, 16, and Sharon Patterson, 17, were given the mandatory sentence of life in prison with no chance of parole, the Wayne County prosecutors office said.
Two Circuit Court juries last month
found them guilty of first-degree murder
in the Sept. 17 death of Bertha Atkins,
who was Collier's 64-year-old grandmoth-
er. Collier also was convicted of arson for
setting fire to Atkin's house in Detroit
 
Queersetti said:
I seem to remember another, almost exactly the same, story that was in the media briefly some time ago. It didn't get much national attention, so this one likely won't either.

I'll see if I can find a few more details on the other case.

I've worked with media before and it always makes me wonder: What makes a good national versus a local story?

For example, the morning shows ran the Mary Kay Letourneau release over and over again even though there really wasn't much of a development in the story.

To me, this story seems to have "Dateline" written all over it. Especially since one of the girls appears to be the controller and the compeller for the other girl. And murder was vicious. And they were girls in love with knives, not mean ass little boys with guns. Crime of passion indeed.

Q, I seem to remember this happening before as well. Where, I have no idea.
 
I smell a script already mixed with the blood. I'm sure you'll be hearing about this one a lot.
 
There's something I'm not clear on.

Do we want more publicity for this story or less?
 
i knew this would happen. We couldn't let the straight people have all the glory. Killing their PG wives, stabbing their parents, killing girlfriends just because it it time to go off to college. (just a few recent examples)

I think this is a crazy child thing. So what if she had a girlfriend...being a lesbian didn't make her crazy...oh wait, I just recently dated about 6 crazy lesbians in a row....anyway.
 
deezire1900 said:
i knew this would happen. We couldn't let the straight people have all the glory. Killing their PG wives, stabbing their parents, killing girlfriends just because it it time to go off to college. (just a few recent examples)

I think this is a crazy child thing. So what if she had a girlfriend...being a lesbian didn't make her crazy...oh wait, I just recently dated about 6 crazy lesbians in a row....anyway.

I think it had a lot to do with it. Her grandparents were spending a lot of time trying to "correct her" sexuality and were trying to get her to attend church and quit drugs.

It's a case of a troubled teen caught up in forbidden love. When you add the concrete vice of the grandparent's conservativism, things went fuck-o.
 
Marxist said:
and give up drugs.



Always blame it on the un-forbidden lesbian love. Not like the drugs played any part in it at all with a possibly history of pychological problems. I think when they start investigating a bit more this has been something planned for a while. The girl she proclaims to love was just her pawn and she manipulated her move perfectly. Check and Mate.

Who knows, in the end it might come out good old granddad was having his way with her while grandma stood by and let it happen.
 
Stuponfucious said:
There's something I'm not clear on.

Do we want more publicity for this story or less?

I'd say less. What difference did being a lesbian really make? The girl would have almost certainly reacted the same if, say, her grandparents had forbidden her to see a boy because of racial differences. ~shrug~
 
pagan switch said:
I'd say less. What difference did being a lesbian really make? The girl would have almost certainly reacted the same if, say, her grandparents had forbidden her to see a boy because of racial differences. ~shrug~
I agree with this hypothesis. I also think the girl had more issues than just her grandparents disapproving of her sexuality, though - and perhaps their treatment of her helped cause those other issues, but if she was writing homicidal notes and things like that, she obviously had more wrong with her than just being lesbian. I very briefly dated a girl whose mother also didn't approve of her being gay (even got a restraining order barring me from the house, thinking that would fix her daughter) but she didn't turn homicidal.

There are really three victims of the girl, though - her grandparents, and also her girlfriend. It kind of reminds me of Aileen Wuoronos's girlfriend as depicted in the movie Monster. Selby was so in love with Aileen and just kind of went along for the ride, although she did finally break free. (I'm basing this on the movie, though - I don't know enough about the actual case.)

If this story doesn't make it to Hollywood (or wherever cheesy TV movies get made), it'll probably at least show up as a paperback book in the True Crime section.
 
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