Ishmael
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Let's see where this goes.
Me;
I'm an engineer by training and trade. I spent the better part of my working career designing instruments that would prove, or disprove, the theories of theoretical physicists. (Which makes me a Leonard of sorts and as much as I reject that stereotype, it's true.)
Disclaimer;
I have no use for religion of any sort. The very notion that some insignificant biological entity can intimately know the mind of a creator is an incredulous leap. And just as incredulous is the notion that an entity that can create the universe is somehow dependent on me worshiping it.
Atheists;
You don't know shit. "There is no God" is a hollow declaration. A negative cannot be proven. And while the 'believers' have a chance at being right, you have none at all.
The Meat;
The Big Bang Theory has been pretty well established. The measured facts support the theory. We have even measured the extent of the known universe and its point of origin. The point here is that it had a beginning, an origin, a creation if you will. How that came about is a mystery and will probably remain so for a great time to come. And the root of that problem is that we cannot pierce the veil of time. How do you measure what happened before time ever existed? We also know that the known universe will be snuffed out at some time. The 'How' is still an ongoing, and heated, debate. The 'If' isn't part of the discussion.
At this point it is interesting to note that if you bother to pick up a Bible and read Genesis the order of events concerning 'creation' is spot on science wise. The order of events are quite logical. All else is subject to discussion, a discussion I'm not particularly interested in participating in.
E=MC2 is still the rule. Some years ago Hawking put forth a proposition that (E=MC2) - x. x being some undefined variable. He was immediately challenged and ultimately forced to go back and reevaluate, and then retract, his assertion. In other words he was proposing that information (either energy or matter) was lost somehow. An assertion that flew in the face of observable and measurable data.
You, I, all life, follows an ever repeating pattern. We come into existence (birth), we respire, convert mass into energy, expel the residue of that process (shit), replicate (procreate, divide, fuck, whatever), and expire (die). But in that process of converting mass into energy we radiate that energy in the form of electrical waves. Waves that propagate throughout the universe forever. Information.
Back to God;
If you accept the notion of the 'Big Bang', then you are forced to accept, or at least wonder, that there just might be a creative force out there. Call it anything you want, God is as good a term as any, but it was an act of creation nonetheless. So while you may deny the existence of a 'God', you are still left with trying to explain the act of creation. It's an obstacle the atheist can't overcome.
Back to Religion;
While I categorically reject any form of religion (a term that implies a doctrine and an assumption that someone knows the mind of God), I have spent a lifetime consuming everything I could get my hands on regarding religious doctrines. Some are religions that most of you never heard of. There is a thread of commonality that runs though virtually all of them. That thread is the ethics required for an orderly society. So while, at least from my perspective, religion is a sham, that is not to say that many of the lessons contained therein are not worthy of consideration.
Information;
Everything that has ever been thought by any living (or maybe not living?) entity from the time of the Big Bang is out there. I think that at times every individual can tap into a shadow of that Universal Mind. Quantum physics dictates that the most basic particles are inseparable. Yet at the same time physics says that the entire universe began with a particle/ball of energy infinitesimally small of of infinitesimal energy. No matter which, it was just one thing. The implication is that all of the universe is just one part of a whole, inseparable. "Desiderata" begins to sound like an eerie reflection of science as we know it today.
Faith/Belief;
Whatever winds your clock as long and that Faith/belief doesn't require you to inflict your faith/beliefs on others or cause them harm.
Ishmael
Me;
I'm an engineer by training and trade. I spent the better part of my working career designing instruments that would prove, or disprove, the theories of theoretical physicists. (Which makes me a Leonard of sorts and as much as I reject that stereotype, it's true.)
Disclaimer;
I have no use for religion of any sort. The very notion that some insignificant biological entity can intimately know the mind of a creator is an incredulous leap. And just as incredulous is the notion that an entity that can create the universe is somehow dependent on me worshiping it.
Atheists;
You don't know shit. "There is no God" is a hollow declaration. A negative cannot be proven. And while the 'believers' have a chance at being right, you have none at all.
The Meat;
The Big Bang Theory has been pretty well established. The measured facts support the theory. We have even measured the extent of the known universe and its point of origin. The point here is that it had a beginning, an origin, a creation if you will. How that came about is a mystery and will probably remain so for a great time to come. And the root of that problem is that we cannot pierce the veil of time. How do you measure what happened before time ever existed? We also know that the known universe will be snuffed out at some time. The 'How' is still an ongoing, and heated, debate. The 'If' isn't part of the discussion.
At this point it is interesting to note that if you bother to pick up a Bible and read Genesis the order of events concerning 'creation' is spot on science wise. The order of events are quite logical. All else is subject to discussion, a discussion I'm not particularly interested in participating in.
E=MC2 is still the rule. Some years ago Hawking put forth a proposition that (E=MC2) - x. x being some undefined variable. He was immediately challenged and ultimately forced to go back and reevaluate, and then retract, his assertion. In other words he was proposing that information (either energy or matter) was lost somehow. An assertion that flew in the face of observable and measurable data.
You, I, all life, follows an ever repeating pattern. We come into existence (birth), we respire, convert mass into energy, expel the residue of that process (shit), replicate (procreate, divide, fuck, whatever), and expire (die). But in that process of converting mass into energy we radiate that energy in the form of electrical waves. Waves that propagate throughout the universe forever. Information.
Back to God;
If you accept the notion of the 'Big Bang', then you are forced to accept, or at least wonder, that there just might be a creative force out there. Call it anything you want, God is as good a term as any, but it was an act of creation nonetheless. So while you may deny the existence of a 'God', you are still left with trying to explain the act of creation. It's an obstacle the atheist can't overcome.
Back to Religion;
While I categorically reject any form of religion (a term that implies a doctrine and an assumption that someone knows the mind of God), I have spent a lifetime consuming everything I could get my hands on regarding religious doctrines. Some are religions that most of you never heard of. There is a thread of commonality that runs though virtually all of them. That thread is the ethics required for an orderly society. So while, at least from my perspective, religion is a sham, that is not to say that many of the lessons contained therein are not worthy of consideration.
Information;
Everything that has ever been thought by any living (or maybe not living?) entity from the time of the Big Bang is out there. I think that at times every individual can tap into a shadow of that Universal Mind. Quantum physics dictates that the most basic particles are inseparable. Yet at the same time physics says that the entire universe began with a particle/ball of energy infinitesimally small of of infinitesimal energy. No matter which, it was just one thing. The implication is that all of the universe is just one part of a whole, inseparable. "Desiderata" begins to sound like an eerie reflection of science as we know it today.
Faith/Belief;
Whatever winds your clock as long and that Faith/belief doesn't require you to inflict your faith/beliefs on others or cause them harm.
Ishmael
