You know you're a liberal if...

Okay. Now I can't tell what I am. I don't consider McDonald's fries #1, but I do like steak fries (liberal? conservative?) I don't eat breakfast (conservative). Strawberry jelly on my pp&j, crunchy tacos and thin-crust pizza (liberal) but classic pastas and meatloaf (conservative)....

Phooey, xssve. You've just confused me :p

But I am glad to know that everyone likes lasagne. It's nice to know what's safe to serve at family dinners where you know the two sides are gonna meet and argue. :cattail:

Edited to add: but I would order the crab linguine w/chardonnay (half-a glass as I don't drink much wine). I love shellfish. And I really like shellfish pasta.
 
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Chardonnay?

That's not wine. You might use it for cooking.

Wine has a label of origin and a statement of quality.

Locally, most people drink French wine, bought in France - or if not, wine with a definite name. Our supermarket shelves display a wide choice but the most sold wines are not the cheapest.

This explains French wine labels (written for the US). My builders, currently knocking our house about, know all this and can recommend particular vintages.

There is a category lower than Vin Du Table but I wouldn't drink it. I might use it instead of antifreeze.

Anything just labelled "Chardonnay" if sold in the UK would be considered rubbish.
 
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“Thanks to TV and for the convenience of TV, you can only be one of two kinds of human beings, either a liberal or a conservative.”

-- Kurt Vonnegut

;)

But it seems I’m a dyed-in-wool liberal, except for not drinking and not being all that keen on breakfast. Also, what a silly question about cooked vs. raw veggies. If you only eat them raw, it means you’re not eating that many kinds. Oh, and also, the word ‘foodie’ makes me want to strangle any affected, self-important twit who uses it. :)
 
I can't figure out the "x% more likely" wording. More likely than what? Other members of their group? Or the members of the other group?

Indian, Thai, and Mexican food is comfort food for me, I've eaten those since childhood. Meatloaf is exotic and wierd. :confused:
 
Hmmm... this makes me a total liberal, except for the soda entry. I don't care what the ads say; Diet Dr. Pepper does not taste like Dr. Pepper.

I can't figure out the "x% more likely" wording. More likely than what? Other members of their group? Or the members of the other group?

More likely than members of the other group. They dropped it after the French Fry entries.

That said, switching back and forth between direct percentages (the middle French fry entry) and odds-ratio comparisons (the liberal and conservative French Fry entries) can lead to misleading conclusions about differences (see the taco section as an example).
 
Plus, I do not believe that liberals prefer crispy tacos. :mad:
Rolling up sleeves and humming the theme from "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly." All right, Stella! Meet me at Henry's Tacos, high-noon some day or other this month! I challenge you to a crispy-vs-soft taco show down. We'll consume and discuss liberal politics :cool:

Edited to add: what do burritos count as? :confused:
 
Chardonnay?

That's not wine. You might use it for cooking.

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Anything just labelled "Chardonnay" if sold in the UK would be considered rubbish.

Maybe true in the UK, but elsewhere in the world, Chardonnay (and I'm talking about the grape variety) has produced excellent wines. As a Californian, I'm blessed with several nearby wineries that know how to produce Chardonnays in several different styles. (One of the wines that caused such an uproar in the famous "Judgement of Paris" in the 1970s was a Livermore Chardonnay, IIRC) And I've tasted excellent Chardonnays from Australia and South America.

Here in America, we read the label and find out where, when, and with what the wine is made, but we let the wine itself do the talking. I've tasted good and bad versions of just about every mainstream grape around, and several of the more obscure ones. They're all capable of producing garbage wines in the hands of hacks, and great wines in the hands of artists.

So if you ever cross the pond, Ogg, you would do well to leave your preconceptions at home, and listen to the locals.
 
Rolling up sleeves and humming the theme from "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly." All right, Stella! Meet me at Henry's Tacos, high-noon some day or other this month! I challenge you to a crispy-vs-soft taco show down. We'll consume and discuss liberal politics :cool:

Edited to add: what do burritos count as? :confused:

As a member of the Food Illiterate, what's the difference between a burrito and a soft taco?

As a member of the Wine Illiterate, isn't beer the stuff that goes with burritos and tacos?

Do these questions make me liberal, conservative or hungry?
 
Rolling up sleeves and humming the theme from "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly." All right, Stella! Meet me at Henry's Tacos, high-noon some day or other this month! I challenge you to a crispy-vs-soft taco show down. We'll consume and discuss liberal politics :cool:

Edited to add: what do burritos count as? :confused:
Yeah! And then come out my way, and we'll do Taco King. Mmmmmmm...
As a member of the Food Illiterate, what's the difference between a burrito and a soft taco?
A burrito is made with a great big wheat flour tortilla and holds lots of stuffing. You have to hold it in two hands, and it's very filling, nearly a whole meal.

A soft taco is made with two small (4-5 inch) corn tortillas, and holds a bare tablespoon of filling-- you eat a bunch of them.
As a member of the Wine Illiterate, isn't beer the stuff that goes with burritos and tacos?
Oh hell yeah!
Do these questions make me liberal, conservative or hungry?
This is definitely a bipartisan concern. :)
 
i'm all over the map.

it seems 'liberals' like exotic or affected choices, or simply healthy ones, like raw veggies.

but i LOVE bacon on a cheeseburger, though i know it's a danger.
soft tacos are fine.

as to strawberry and grape jellies, both tend to be terrible in quality, though i'd hazard that a FINE grape jam might be better than an ordinary strawberry.

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it's worth noting that the meanings of the words are slippery: is 'conservative' like a banker, or just your usual redneck. william buckley or george wallace? is the liberal a jack kennedy or a jerry brown?
 
jehoram, to reply to your statement "(One of the wines that caused such an uproar in the famous "Judgement of Paris" in the 1970s was a Livermore Chardonnay, IIRC)", I think it was the 1972 Chateau Montelena Chardonnay from Napa that took the prize at Steve Spurrier's tasting, IIRC, beating out a Louis Latour Corton Charlemagne. Now that would be a close call, and I'd love to reexamine the evidence a few times before I decide the winner (assuming someone else is buying).
 
i'm all over the map.

it seems 'liberals' like exotic or affected choices, or simply healthy ones, like raw veggies.
It seems that 'conservatives' distrust any food that needs a little more thought, calling it 'exotic' or 'affected.' The sin of pleasure extends to eating, or something.
but i LOVE bacon on a cheeseburger, though i know it's a danger.
soft tacos are fine.

as to strawberry and grape jellies, both tend to be terrible in quality, though i'd hazard that a FINE grape jam might be better than an ordinary strawberry.

==

it's worth noting that the meanings of the words are slippery: is 'conservative' like a banker, or just your usual redneck. william buckley or george wallace? is the liberal a jack kennedy or a jerry brown?
Agree, agree, agree. :)
 
jehoram, to reply to your statement "(One of the wines that caused such an uproar in the famous "Judgement of Paris" in the 1970s was a Livermore Chardonnay, IIRC)", I think it was the 1972 Chateau Montelena Chardonnay from Napa that took the prize at Steve Spurrier's tasting, IIRC, beating out a Louis Latour Corton Charlemagne. Now that would be a close call, and I'd love to reexamine the evidence a few times before I decide the winner (assuming someone else is buying).

You haven't really lived until you've had a bottle of Chateau de Cabin Fever, from Fort Chipewyan Cellars and Snowmobile Parts. It has the kick of a moose and the bouquet of The Mad Trapper's armpit.

One bottle will open the sluices at both ends. Two bottles and you've really had it...

(With apologies to Rod Laver's Australian Wagga Wagga Water.)
 
Maybe true in the UK, but elsewhere in the world, Chardonnay (and I'm talking about the grape variety) has produced excellent wines. As a Californian, I'm blessed with several nearby wineries that know how to produce Chardonnays in several different styles. (One of the wines that caused such an uproar in the famous "Judgement of Paris" in the 1970s was a Livermore Chardonnay, IIRC) And I've tasted excellent Chardonnays from Australia and South America.

Here in America, we read the label and find out where, when, and with what the wine is made, but we let the wine itself do the talking. I've tasted good and bad versions of just about every mainstream grape around, and several of the more obscure ones. They're all capable of producing garbage wines in the hands of hacks, and great wines in the hands of artists.

So if you ever cross the pond, Ogg, you would do well to leave your preconceptions at home, and listen to the locals.

I appreciate that wines made in the USA and Australia and South Africa and other places can be good, excellent and prize-winning but NOT if they are just described as "Chardonnay". A wine from a specific vineyard, particularly from a specified year, can be wonderful. But just "Chardonnay" tells the buyer/drinker nothing.

An English wine won the top award at an international competition this year, beating French, Italian and Californian wines in its category. However that was a very limited vintage from a small vineyard.

The French (and German) wine-labelling conventions tell the buyer so much more. However they have to be read with the year of production. If there is NO year date then the wine is meant to be drunk NOW.
 
You haven't really lived until you've had a bottle of Chateau de Cabin Fever, from Fort Chipewyan Cellars and Snowmobile Parts. It has the kick of a moose and the bouquet of The Mad Trapper's armpit.

One bottle will open the sluices at both ends. Two bottles and you've really had it...

(With apologies to Rod Laver's Australian Wagga Wagga Water.)

Here in the distinct society we prefer the purity of Caribou, and find it pairs very well with a well-sauced poutine.
 
Here in the distinct society we prefer the purity of Caribou, and find it pairs very well with a well-sauced poutine.

But does it pair well with braised tenderloin of musk ox? Does it? Does it nicely offset the pungent aroma of rack of Stone Sheep lamb?

As a graduate of the Lynn Valley Wilderness School of Fine Cuisine, I'd never serve it with bannock wrapped breast of ptarmigan.

Unless by Caribou, you mean Cariboo...

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/1500222.bin?size=620x400
 
Yeah! And then come out my way, and we'll do Taco King. Mmmmmmm...
A burrito is made with a great big wheat flour tortilla and holds lots of stuffing. You have to hold it in two hands, and it's very filling, nearly a whole meal.
A burrito also typically made with refried beans, a taco with some kind of meat.

A soft taco is made with two small (4-5 inch) corn tortillas, and holds a bare tablespoon of filling
That's the upscale, exotic, liberal soft taco. The down-to-earth conservative soft tacos are flour tortilla and only different from a burrito because they've got ground beef in them instead of beans ;) The taco stand I'm suggesting is old school L.A. meaning cheap, crunchy, ready-made hard shells and flour tortillas for anything else. One meat filling for everything but bean burritos and lots of little containers filled with a generic red hot sauce to pour over said tacos and burritos :D

The taco stand Stella is suggesting is much more authentic (exotic!) with the home made corn tortillas, fresh off the warmer, and crispy ones being those same tortillas fried up in oil.

Actually, Stella, what I think we should do is just make a statement on the liberality of soft tacos by going to the Kogi truck...Korean B-B-Q soft tacos :D Yum! Yum!
 
You know youre a liberal if you believe in the free lunch. Doesnt matter what's on the menu.
 
A burrito also typically made with refried beans, a taco with some kind of meat.


That's the upscale, exotic, liberal soft taco. The down-to-earth conservative soft tacos are flour tortilla and only different from a burrito because they've got ground beef in them instead of beans ;) The taco stand I'm suggesting is old school L.A. meaning cheap, crunchy, ready-made hard shells and flour tortillas for anything else. One meat filling for everything but bean burritos and lots of little containers filled with a generic red hot sauce to pour over said tacos and burritos :D

The taco stand Stella is suggesting is much more authentic (exotic!) with the home made corn tortillas, fresh off the warmer, and crispy ones being those same tortillas fried up in oil.

Actually, Stella, what I think we should do is just make a statement on the liberality of soft tacos by going to the Kogi truck...Korean B-B-Q soft tacos :D Yum! Yum!
I still remember the first time I had REAL tacos, made on REAL tortillas which were being patted out before my eyes by REAL Mexican and Guatemalan abuelitas. That was second grade, forty years ago... And that was the first time I tasted cilantro, too. And green salsa made from roasted tomatillos and Anaheim peppers. The tomatillos grow like weeds here, if you let a few rotten ones hit the ground on your way to the trash dumpster...
 
Gee, I wonder where our...SR...is on this one...he know's everything about everybody. :rolleyes:
 
Gee, I wonder where our...SR...is on this one...he know's everything about everybody. :rolleyes:
You must have a crush on SR. Everywhere he goes, there you are, and if he isn't there, you wish he was.

Its kind of sweet, actually.
 
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