You have to really like S&M to give yourself to critics--anyone agree?

[arielsgoddess]

I see alot of newbies on the forum are afraid of the critical pull-apart that we receive as peers. I think they're looking at it all wrong. If your passion is strong enough in what you write, the fire only makes the subject more delicious. It doesn't cause you to abandon it or lose your vision. Aren't we all playing literary S&M? Like good S&M, it enhances your senses so that you feel, see, etc. everything more intensely. To the reluctant out there, I recommend you try it--real-life and in forum. Even if it does not make you more original or masterful, it definitely helps hone you into being and knowing who you really are.

 

[Epmd607]

I see alot of newbies on the forum are afraid of the critical pull-apart that we receive as peers. I think they're looking at it all wrong. If your passion is strong enough in what you write, the fire only makes the subject more delicious. It doesn't cause you to abandon it or lose your vision. Aren't we all playing literary S&M? Like good S&M, it enhances your senses so that you feel, see, etc. everything more intensely. To the reluctant out there, I recommend you try it--real-life and in forum. Even if it does not make you more original or masterful, it definitely helps hone you into being and knowing who you really are.

Hello, Arielsgoddess. New voices are always nice to hear around here, but this sort of post probably belongs in the Poets Hangout portion of the board. This section is usually used for posting new poems and/or criticizing poetry. So as to not clutter the board, it's also preferrable for someone to post a new poem either in one of the many new poetry threads already in use, or on the NEW Poems page. Posting a new thread to get criticism on one poem is sort of off putting to those of us who've been here for a little while. If you post a poem through your login name on the index or on one of the many threads and ask for criticism you'll probably get it.

 

[arielsgoddess]

Apologies--a faux pas on my part--help?

Is there a way that I can pull and repost them where they better belong--do I need an admin's help for that? on posting my work, I've sent emails requesting help for navigating to the 'submit' links and how to look-up my work elsewhere, but my emails have not been answered. Technical instructions on these two issues, anyone?

 

[Epmd607]

Is there a way that I can pull and repost them where they better belong--do I need an admin's help for that? on posting my work, I've sent emails requesting help for navigating to the 'submit' links and how to look-up my work elsewhere, but my emails have not been answered. Technical instructions on these two issues, anyone?

If you copy and paste all the poems you want criticism for on one thread, delete your work on the other threads and write 'please delete this thread' Angeline or someone might get rid of them for you. If that doesn't happen it's no biggie, the common threads will drift above the unused. If you only post about your work on one thread it's preferrable because posting on multiple threads buries the older threads that are used daily. There's one "New Poems" further below you can put new poems on, and in "to keep the review thread clean" you can ask for criticism on stuff you've posted over on the New Poems page. I think I saw one of your poems over there. You know how to submit poems to the site? It's where you login on the index page, sign in with the same name and password you use for here, then there's a submit link, then 'submit poem'

edit: Scratch that, you already now how to submit poems, I just checked your page.

 

[Senna Jawa]

Posting a new thread to get criticism on one poem is sort of off putting to those of us who've been here for a little while.

Not at all. It is perfectly standard and fine to open a new discussion thread for a single poem. It was done many times too.

 

[LaRocha]

Not at all. It is perfectly standard and fine to open a new discussion thread for a single poem. It was done many times too.

It was done many times, but by the uninitiated, dear. It is not standard to open a new discussion thread for a single poem or group of poems. It is fine, no one's going to think poorly of you, but it's unlikely you will get the criticism or moral support you desire.

 

[Senna Jawa]

It was done many times, but by the uninitiated, dear. It is not standard to open a new discussion thread for a single poem or group of poems. It is fine, no one's going to think poorly of you, but it's unlikely you will get the criticism or moral support you desire.

You're wrong. And don't call me dear--I never gave you such a privilege.

 

[Angeline]

Not at all. It is perfectly standard and fine to open a new discussion thread for a single poem. It was done many times too.

Not off-putting to me either, and I've been here longer than most. If I see a poem in someone's "help me" thread and if I feel I can say something constructive and helpful, I do. If I don't feel I can, I don't say anything.

I was new here once, and people helped me learn. I try to keep that in mind whenever I give feedback to new people here. I know how I felt those first times I posted.

PS Hiya SJ

 

[UnderYourSpell]

It was done many times, but by the uninitiated, dear. It is not standard to open a new discussion thread for a single poem or group of poems. It is fine, no one's going to think poorly of you, but it's unlikely you will get the criticism or moral support you desire.

If nobody opens a thread and asks for help how on earth are they ever going to find out?! Ask away!

 

[WickedEve]

Hello, Arielsgoddess. New voices are always nice to hear around here, but this sort of post probably belongs in the Poets Hangout portion of the board. This section is usually used for posting new poems and/or criticizing poetry. So as to not clutter the board, it's also preferrable for someone to post a new poem either in one of the many new poetry threads already in use, or on the NEW Poems page. Posting a new thread to get criticism on one poem is sort of off putting to those of us who've been here for a little while. If you post a poem through your login name on the index or on one of the many threads and ask for criticism you'll probably get it

oh, my...




arielsgoddess, your post is fine on this board and welcome to the forum. I'm just now returning, so I haven't seen if you have any poetry posted yet. Look forward to reading you. If you have questions that you want to PM, then try me, Angeline, or Lauren: poetry forum mods.

 

[Epmd607]

What was the point of bringing this thread back up, Senna Jawa? No one was around to answer her questions. She posted maybe 8 new threads in a day for new poems and comments and questions. I answered what I thought was appropriate. "Hey, let's find new ways to have arguments on this deader than dead message board." LaRocha? People come out of the woodwork to argue here. CockRocha. Old people.

 

[Angeline]

oh, my...




arielsgoddess, your post is fine on this board and welcome to the forum. I'm just now returning, so I haven't seen if you have any poetry posted yet. Look forward to reading you. If you have questions that you want to PM, then try me, Angeline, or Lauren: poetry forum mods.

Although arguably you specialize in the S&M questions.

 

[WickedEve]

Although arguably you specialize in the S&M questions.

I originally clicked on the thread thinking it was going to be about S&M poetry. It's not, darn it.

 

[Angeline]

I originally clicked on the thread thinking it was going to be about S&M poetry. It's not, darn it.

But it could be! Why don't you write a sonnet about S&M disco zombies? Iambic pentameter, please.

 

[Liar]

But it could be! Why don't you write a sonnet about S&M disco zombies? Iambic pentameter, please.

Well, it's obvious which part of S and M you take.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Excuse me thread jacking but is that Hugo's hairy head it's bugging me?

 

[Tzara]

But it could be! Why don't you write a sonnet about S&M disco zombies? Iambic pentameter, please.

Saturday Night Fever

It's got to be the beat. It's brainless, but
That doesn't mean she hasn't brains to eat.
Yum, yum! The shivered shimmy of her strut
Pumps oxygen to cranium—fresh meat,
Served rare—a zombilicious treat. And then,
That sassy vintage Albert Nipon frock
Makes such a splash as au courant napkin.
(I know I know true quality from shlock.)
But Style is not quite all this is about—
My hunger's not all food. I like to dance
And Bella's blood-red lips and flirty pout
Raise from the dead some parts prepped for Romance.

....So first, some rope. A whip. Yes, first she'll writhe.
....Just Stayin', as the Bee Gees say, Alive.


.

 

[Tzara]

But it could be! Why don't you write a sonnet about S&M disco zombies? Iambic pentameter, please.

Italian variation:

Not Theory

I want to eat your brains! the Zombie said.
I'd rather you did not, was my reply,
For I've a parsimonious supply.
(Aside: That stingy God!) They're thinly spread

As is; you might like Marilyn's instead.
The Zombie's plan thus mixmastered awry,
I cued up Donna Summer on the sly
For Bad Girls gets 'em grooving, those undead.

While under cover of the zombie dance,
Sweet Barbara I treated to the whip
While she was knotted in my hempen rope.

But I was pretty quick, for I'm no dope.
We left before the segue to Last Dance.
With zombies, knots are best tied so to slip.


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[Angeline]

Well, it's obvious which part of S and M you take.

I know.

Saturday Night Fever

It's got to be the beat. It's brainless, but
That doesn't mean she hasn't brains to eat.
Yum, yum! The shivered shimmy of her strut
Pumps oxygen to cranium—fresh meat,
Served rare—a zombilicious treat. And then,
That sassy vintage Albert Nipon frock
Makes such a splash as au courant napkin.
(I know I know true quality from shlock.)
But Style is not quite all this is about—
My hunger's not all food. I like to dance
And Bella's blood-red lips and flirty pout
Raise from the dead some parts prepped for Romance.

....So first, some rope. A whip. Yes, first she'll writhe.
....Just Stayin', as the Bee Gees say, Alive.


.

Lovely. Now we are the two people on this forum nutty enough to write about disco zombies. I hope Eve is happy.

Italian variation:

Not Theory

I want to eat your brains! the Zombie said.
I'd rather you did not, was my reply,
For I've a parsimonious supply.
(Aside: That stingy God!) They're thinly spread

As is; you might like Marilyn's instead.
The Zombie's plan thus mixmastered awry,
I cued up Donna Summer on the sly
For Bad Girls gets 'em grooving, those undead.

While under cover of the zombie dance,
Sweet Barbara I treated to the whip
While she was knotted in my hempen rope.

But I was pretty quick, for I'm no dope.
We left before the segue to Last Dance.
With zombies, knots are best tied so to slip.


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I can't decide if this is S or M. Mebbe both, in turn.

 

[Angeline]

Excuse me thread jacking but is that Hugo's hairy head it's bugging me?

Psst. I think it's a dog. Look closely at the nose. Maybe it's Hugo but I don't think he has that much hair. Or nose.

 

[UnderYourSpell]

Psst. I think it's a dog. Look closely at the nose. Maybe it's Hugo but I don't think he has that much hair. Or nose.

Ooops second faux pas of the day I'm going offline now before the sky tumbles about my ears

 

[Tzara]

Lovely. Now we are the two people on this forum nutty enough to write about disco zombies. I hope Eve is happy.

Perhaps she would prefer a movie.

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

Psst. I think it's a dog. Look closely at the nose. Maybe it's Hugo but I don't think he has that much hair. Or nose.

Hugo's little black nose.

 

[Tzara]

Ceci n'est pas Histoire d'O
for Anne Desclos, RIP

A zombie with a whip one should beware,
Especially one wearing PVC
Or leather stuff and chains. Because, you see,
Sir Stephen's soul resides now en enfer—
Corporeal remains known as "Pierre"
Still frequent clubs D, S&M, and B.
Since Sir still has His taste for bourgeoisie,
Our middle-classèd brains had best take care.

But zombies are distracted by disco.
(I hardly blame them there—the flatulence
Of any drum machine sucks out all sense
I ever had.) Like pepper spray, ergo,
A tape of KC and the Sunshine Band
Keeps Stephen's Member haply in His Hand.


.

 

[Angeline]

Perhaps she would prefer a movie.

Interesting title.

Ceci n'est pas Histoire d'O
for Anne Desclos, RIP

A zombie with a whip one should beware,
Especially one wearing PVC
Or leather stuff and chains. Because, you see,
Sir Stephen's soul resides now en enfer—
Corporeal remains known as "Pierre"
Still frequent clubs D, S &M, and B.
Since Sir still has His taste for bourgeoisie,
Our middle-classèd brains had best take care.

But zombies are distracted by disco.
(I hardly blame them there—the flatulence
Of any drum machine sucks out all sense
I ever had.) Like pepper spray, ergo,
A tape of KC and the Sunshine Band
Keeps Stephen's Member haply in His Hand.


.

Here. Not zombies exactly but disco. And don't tell me if the meter is fucked. I still like it.

Back in the day when we were young and lithe
we danced like mad to turn the beat around.
Spoon up the nose, lucite heels, spandex blithe,
now we limp, wheeze, groan--

Hey! Turn down the sound!

What's that up my nose? A lil Vasiline.
My left nostril's been fucked since eighty-four.
Slow that boogie down, this old disco queen
has hips that don't move so good anymore.

My brickhouse done crumbled like cheap plywood.
I used to be young but now I'm learnin
When you're out late not eating like you should,
your heart and feet will be burnin, burnin

Damn I used to be one glittering fox.
Whadja say sonny? Oh. Make mine Maalox.