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The Champ Meets the Chump

Dave ZirinFri Nov 18, 6:15 PM ET

The Nation -- The presidency of George W. Bush is collapsing under the weight of its own incompetence. The polls speak for themselves--only 35 percent of us approve of his job performance. Fifty-six percent--including one in four Republicans--say the war in Iraq was not worth fighting, and more than half believe Bush intentionally misled the country to bring the United States into war. The response from the White House has been grimly predictable: Admit no mistakes and spin, slash or burn your critics. On Monday Bush seethed, "Only one person manipulated evidence and misled the world--and that person was Saddam Hussein." (Funny, I didn't know we were being "led" by Saddam Hussein.) Bush went on to accuse opponents of rewriting the past. But this Administration, which has redefined the word "Orwellian" for a new generation, respects history about as much as it respects the Geneva Conventions. In fact, they seem to relish assaulting and rewriting history for sheer sport.

This was seen quite clearly on November 9, when Bush hung a medal around the slack, immobile neck of former heavyweight boxing champion--and the most famous war resister in US history--Muhammad Ali. Ali was one of a bevy of recipients of the Presidential Medal of Freedom at a White House ceremony. Bush, while Karl Rove and Donald Rumsfeld chuckled behind him, said, "Only a few athletes are ever known as the greatest in their sport, or in their time. But when you say, 'The Greatest of All Time' is in the room, everyone knows who you mean. It's quite a claim to make, but as Muhammad Ali once said, 'It's not bragging if you can back it up.' And this man backed it up.... The real mystery, I guess, is how he stayed so pretty. [Laughter.] It probably had to do with his beautiful soul. He was a fierce fighter and he's a man of peace."

As I watched a video of the ceremony posted on the White House website, it was heartbreaking to see Bush, a chicken-hearted man of empire, bathe himself in Ali's glow and rhapsodize about "peace." To see the once-indomitable Ali, besieged by Parkinsons and dementia, eyes filmed over, hands shaking, led around by a self-described "war President" felt horrifying.

About the only thing Bush and Ali have in common is that they both moved mountains to stay out of Vietnam. The difference, of course, was while Ali sacrificed his title and risked years in federal prison, Bush joined the country club otherwise known as the Texas National Guard, showing up for duty every time he had a dentist appointment. But the Champ still had one last rope-a-dope up his sleeve. As a playful Bush moved in front of Ali, he apparently thought it would be cute to put up his fists in a boxing stance. Ali leaned back and made a circular motion around his temple, as if the President must be crazy to want to tangle with him even now.

This moment recalled the Ali who was never so beloved, so cuddly, so harmless. This was a fleeting glimpse of the Ali who once was able to say things that would have made John Ashcroft demand a federally funded exorcism. This was the Ali who said, "I ain't no Christian. I can't be when I see all the colored people fighting for forced integration get blown up. They get hit by the stones and chewed by dogs and then these crackers blow up a Negro church.... People are always telling me what a good example I would be if I just wasn't Muslim. I've heard over and over why couldn't I just be more like Joe Louis and Sugar Ray [Robinson]. Well, they are gone and the black man's condition is just the same, ain't it? We're still catching hell."

Back then, Ali could level criticism about an ill-advised, unfair war: "Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No, I'm not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality.... If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people, they wouldn't have to draft me, I'd join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I'll go to jail, so what? We've been in jail for 400 years."

If Ali had said things like that today about our current war, it would have earned him not not a medal but a one-way trip to Gitmo.

As the great poet Sonia Sanchez remembered Ali's golden era, "It's hard now to relay the emotion of that time. This was still a time when hardly any well-known people were resisting the draft. It was a war that was disproportionately killing young black brothers, and here was this beautiful, funny poetical young man standing up and saying no! Imagine it for a moment! The heavyweight champion, a magical man, taking his fight out of the ring and into the arena of politics and standing firm. The message was sent!"

Perhaps a far more fitting and true tribute to Ali was on display at an antiwar demonstration last month, where an older woman of African descent held up a sign that read simply, "No Iraqi ever left me to die on a roof." This was a direct reference to a quote attributed to Ali that "no Vietnamese ever called me 'nigger.' " Both statements in a few short words encompass both the anger and internationalism so needed today. These are statements not of pacifism but of the struggle to end war. This is the Ali that they can never bury--not even under the pall of devastating illness and a mountain of cheap medals.

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Hell, the draft supporters are too scared to throw down with me, why would they want to talk shit to Ali? :confused:
 
Jesus Christ, you either hit a gold mine on CNN today or you haven't been keeping up on your conservative dirt digging, there are more of your mindless threads than there are those ridiculous Playground word games...for shame! Maybe you should go there, you'd get the desired 788542543 pages of CRAP.
 
LeahLo519 said:
Jesus Christ, you either hit a gold mine on CNN today or you haven't been keeping up on your conservative dirt digging, there are more of your mindless threads than there are those ridiculous Playground word games...for shame! Maybe you should go there, you'd get the desired 788542543 pages of CRAP.
ROTFLMAO!!! There's a lot of much dirt on you guys, ain't there?

It makes you mad as fuck that your party is in so much deep shit, doesn't it?

Kiss my ass, you retarded little skank. You lose again, you pathetic little whiner. Suck it up and deal. There's enough scandals wafting around now to go for a year.
 
LovingTongue said:
ROTFLMAO!!! There's a lot of much dirt on you guys, ain't there?

It makes you mad as fuck that your party is in so much deep shit, doesn't it?

Kiss my ass, you retarded little skank. You lose again, you pathetic little whiner. Suck it up and deal. There's enough scandals wafting around now to go for a year.
Ya know, LT, if you keep responding to me in such a hateful, derogatory manner, you're going to go ahead and seal the deal on your reputation as being...well, a complete fucking idiot. If I'm a retarded skank then why do I get your crusty panties in such a twist? You lose again.

Lick it, bitch.
 
LeahLo519 said:
Ya know, LT, if you keep responding to me in such a hateful, derogatory manner, you're going to go ahead and seal the deal on your reputation as being...well, a complete fucking idiot. If I'm a retarded skank then why do I get your crusty panties in such a twist? You lose again.

Lick it, bitch.
LOL, it's you who felt so threatened by my existence that you had to come in here and comment. I got your pathetic little goat just by posting this thread.

I own your witless ass just by you posting.
 
MakersandIce said:
Because cowards find fault with everthing.
LOL. You? Lecturing anyone about cowardice? You're nothing but a pimple faced nerd hiding under your mommy's bed talking shit.
 
LovingTongue said:
LOL. You? Lecturing anyone about cowardice? You're nothing but a pimple faced nerd hiding under your mommy's bed talking shit.
Yep, you're right. The pimples are a symptom I incurred from being exposed to too much sunlight while on active duty.
 
I dont get why anyone cares what LT thinks? This is just his online persona, everyone knows he is a hardcore Uncle Tom out in the real world.
 
LovingTongue said:
LOL, it's you who felt so threatened by my existence that you had to come in here and comment. I got your pathetic little goat just by posting this thread.

I own your witless ass just by you posting.
Now how does that make any sense? I'm threatened so I come in here and post anyways, knowing that you in all your astounding brilliance will hand me my ass? Please. I've been more threatened by trolls. Oh wait...

And you "own" everyone that posts in your threads, sugar, and I think it's adorable. *smiles* You win...
 
SleepingWarrior said:
I dont get why anyone cares what LT thinks? This is just his online persona, everyone knows he is a hardcore Uncle Tom out in the real world.

*raises eyebrow

this is an interesting comment.

let's see how many corners you paint yourself into as you try to render meaningless.

uncle tom, of course, is derogatory. are you a racist, sw?
 
CrackerjackHrt said:
*raises eyebrow

this is an interesting comment.

let's see how many corners you paint yourself into as you try to render meaningless.

uncle tom, of course, is derogatory. are you a racist, sw?


I don't need to paint any corners. This is how he blows off the steam he gets from being unable to confront white people in his own life. Anonymity is good for that. I'd do it myself if I feared white people like he does.
 
SleepingWarrior said:
I don't need to paint any corners. This is how he blows off the steam he gets from being unable to confront white people in his own life. Anonymity is good for that. I'd do it myself if I feared white people like he does.

hmmm. so why did you select the phrase "uncle tom"?

uncle tom, of course, suggests someone who forgets where--and more particularly the people--from which he came. clarence thomas gets called that. so does condaleeza rice.

do you think lt is like clarence or condaleeza?
 
CrackerjackHrt said:
hmmm. so why did you select the phrase "uncle tom"?

uncle tom, of course, suggests someone who forgets where--and more particularly the people--from which he came. clarence thomas gets called that. so does condaleeza rice.

do you think lt is like clarence or condaleeza?


Going by this...
Uncle Tom (tm)
n. Offensive
A Black person who is regarded as being humiliatingly subservient or deferential to white people.


It fits into how I see him in real life and why he acts the way he does on here. He wouldn't and I'm 99% sure he doesn't say or get into debates on this issue anywhere but here out of his fear of white people. Just look at his history on here and I believe it points to this theory of mine.
 
LeahLo519 said:
Now how does that make any sense? I'm threatened so I come in here and post anyways, knowing that you in all your astounding brilliance will hand me my ass? Please. I've been more threatened by trolls. Oh wait...

And you "own" everyone that posts in your threads, sugar, and I think it's adorable. *smiles* You win...
You respond to me out of a need to save face, but all you come away with is tread marks on your ass.

It's unbelievable how stupid you are. You actually think you can outwit anyone. I can't believe your parents lied to you like that.
 
SleepingWarrior said:
Going by this...
Uncle Tom (tm)
n. Offensive
A Black person who is regarded as being humiliatingly subservient or deferential to white people.


It fits into how I see him in real life and why he acts the way he does on here. He wouldn't and I'm 99% sure he doesn't say or get into debates on this issue anywhere but here out of his fear of white people. Just look at his history on here and I believe it points to this theory of mine.

ahhh, yes. i see that. "offensive."

so do you believe that everybody who assumes a dominant role online is subservient in true life? or is it your theory limited only to people of color?
 
SleepingWarrior said:
I don't need to paint any corners. This is how he blows off the steam he gets from being unable to convince any white people to stand their ground when he comes looking for a fight. Anonymity is good for that. I'd do it myself if white people ran from me like they do from him.
Edited for correctness.
 
CrackerjackHrt said:
ahhh, yes. i see that. "offensive."

so do you believe that everybody who assumes a dominant role online is subservient in true life? or is it your theory limited only to people of color?
SleepingWarrior is a weakling trying to console himself that I wouldn't verbally or physically toss him around like a rag doll in real life.

I would invite him to speak his bullshit to my face but I already physically drove 300 miles to punch out his predecessor who failed to show up. On his home turf, no less. In TEXAS, NO LESS.

I've hunted these racist punks in real life and all I've gotten out of it is the experience of them pulling a no-show.

Who the fuck is SleepingChickenhawk? Just another greasy little GI Joe action figure collecting punk, that's what. With a small penis problem to boot, according to what his mom has told me.
 
LovingTongue said:
You respond to me out of a need to save face, but all you come away with is tread marks on your ass.

It's unbelievable how stupid you are. You actually think you can outwit anyone. I can't believe your parents lied to you like that.
That was weak. And according to you, if I really wanted to save face, I would avoid these threads of yours altogether, right? You're not even a blip on my radar dickweed, and the sooner you yank your enormous head out of your ass and realize that, the sooner you can just ignore me and argue with the grown ups. Until then, getting the blunt end of your pathetic stabs will continue to get me off.
 
CrackerjackHrt said:
ahhh, yes. i see that. "offensive."

so do you believe that everybody who assumes a dominant role online is subservient in true life? or is it your theory limited only to people of color?


Everyone, including myself. Though I have the advantage of not giving a shit of getting beaten, killed, whatever for saying things to people in real life if it fits and needs to be said. I'm able to narrow down the cause of LT acting how he does on here because of his extensive history.
 
GW is a fucking PUSSY....he's a product of his rich lily white environment and acts as such...he has no real concern for anyone but the rich and those that support him are idiots...
 
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