You don't think the end of the world is near?

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The Toleration of Evil
Jack Wheeler
Freedom Research Foundation
Tuesday, March 26, 2002

It is impossible for the ordinary human mind to fully grasp the evil of Joseph Stalin. He purposefully engineered the starving to death of over 10 million people in Ukraine. In terms of mass murder, Stalin's Ukrainian Holocaust was an even greater crime than Hitler's Jewish Holocaust.

Millions more were hauled off to be enslaved and die in the Gulag, or tortured and shot for the slightest suspicion of anything Stalin was suspicious of. Many of his closest deputies were ordered to put their parents, wives or children to death to prove their loyalty.

Yet this tyranny, this monstrous evil, is not a mystery. Evil exists, deeply embedded in certain human souls. That isn't mysterious; it is a basic fact of human society. The true mystery is why and how such is evil is tolerated. Stalin tyrannized the Soviet Union for 30 years. In all those years, there was not one single known attempt on his life. Not one.

Which, then, is the greater depravity: Stalin killing people, or no one killing him? The former, of course. Evil itself is the greater evil – but toleration of it is the greater mystery.

It has been blindingly obvious for years now that Robert Mugabe is a pathologically evil man. He has systematically been destroying the rights, freedom and livelihood of people in Zimbabwe. He will commit any crime he considers necessary to maintain his power.

Anyone who had the slightest hope that he would allow an election with the barest semblance of fairness and honesty exhibits naïveté of Olympian magnitude.

Zimbabwe is dying as a country. Its people face dying of actual starvation. Its white population doesn't stand a chance of keeping their property and indeed their very lives as long as Mugabe lives.

Yet Mugabe's existence is no mystery. The history of Africa is riddled with such loathsome leaders. The mystery is why no one in all these years hasn't realized there was no hope for Zimbabwe as long as Mugabe lived, and put an end to his life.

It is only the toleration of evil that enables evil to continue to exist. It is not immoral to extinguish such evil as Joseph Stalin or Robert Mugabe. It is immoral not to. Mass murderers, tyrants and terrorists have forfeited by their crimes their claim to life. If Osama bin Laden should be hunted down and shot on sight, so then should Robert Mugabe. So then should Saddam Hussein. So then should Yasser Arafat.

No people on Earth have had evil directed at them more than Jews. No people should be more intolerant of this evil than Israelis. Yet they keep tolerating it. They keep acting and hoping and wishfully thinking toward Yasser Arafat as Zimbabwe's white farmers do toward Robert Mugabe.

The toleration of the evil of Palestinian Nazism is the cause of Israel's travails. Arafat is an Arab Nazi. He inherited the leadership of the PLO from his mentor and uncle, Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem who formed an alliance with Adolf Hitler.

(At a meeting with Hitler in Berlin on Nov. 21, 1941, al-Husseini convinced Hitler that a better "solution" for the Jews would be to kill them in death camps rather than expel them from Europe.)
You don't negotiate with Nazis, because you can't. Their entire purpose in life is to kill those they hate. The Reverse Golden Rule must apply: Do unto them before they do unto you.

The United States is not trying to find Osama bin Laden to negotiate a peace settlement with him. It is trying to find him in order to kill him. There is no more chance of peace between Yasser Arafat, the Fatah, Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, et al., and Israel than there is between al-Qaeda and America. Both are duels to the death.

Al-Qaeda's Sept. 11 attack enabled America to acquire the resolve for this duel. What will it take for Israel to acquire a similar resolve? How many more slaughters of babies, of children, of mothers, of innocents is necessary?

It's not as if Palestinian terrorism started recently with its so-called intifada. It has been going on for decades. When will Israel stop its toleration of evil?

For once it does, the path to real peace becomes clear. The path has the following steps:

1. Annex the West Bank. The West Bank is no more "Israeli-occupied Palestine" than Kuwait is "Kuwaiti-occupied Iraq." Jordan invaded Israel in 1948 and occupied a large area of the country. In 1967, Israel recaptured its own land. This entire area of Judea and Samaria, or the West Bank, should now and finally be formally annexed as fully part of the sovereign territory of Israel.

2. Either put a bullet in Arafat's brain or expel him together with the entire Palestinian Authority from the West Bank. No commentary needed. Just do it. One or the other.

3. Make Gaza the Palestinian State. Abandon the Israeli settlements in Gaza, have its inhabitants move back to Israel, give full sovereignty to Gaza as a Palestinian nation. Terrorist attacks launched from Gaza would be considered acts of war by one state upon another.

4. Give West Bank Palestinians a choice. Either they emigrate to Gaza (or another country) or they apply for Israeli citizenship. Such an application must include a written affirmation that they recognize the legitimate existence of the state of Israel and will act to uphold its laws and sovereignty. Those who do not sign under oath such an affirmation should be expelled from Israel, including the now-annexed West Bank.

5. Target Mecca. The only way to force the Arab world to accept the existence of Israel is to give it no hope that Israel will be defeated and vanish. The only way to accomplish this is to hold Mecca as a nuclear hostage.

Egypt is already in a similar position, which is why the largest Arab nation has been neutered in the Arab struggle against the "Zionist enemy." Egypt knows its defeat of Israel is impossible, because the Aswan Dam is targeted by Israeli nukes.
Should Egypt ever be so insanely foolish as to again attempt militarily conquering Israel, before such an attempt could reach success, Aswan would suffer a nuclear hit and the entire Nile River Valley below would be under 20 feet of water.

As Aswan is Egypt's Sword of Damocles, so Mecca should be the Damoclean Sword for the whole Arab world.

The clear message of Israel should be: "We are not going away. We are not going to be defeated. You must come to grips with and accept the fact of our sovereign existence. To make this crystal clear, we have targeted nuclear missiles at the Holy City of Mecca. We hope and pray we will never have to use them, just as Americans hoped and prayed during the Cold War they would never have to use their nuclear missiles aimed at Moscow. They serve as an ultimate deterrent – for you to understand that victory over us is an impossibility."

Such a message should, of course, be a completely private one and fiercely denied publicly, just like targeting Aswan – or the very existence of Israeli nukes in the first place.

Lastly and most important is the step that undergirds all the others:

6. No more toleration of evil. No more negotiation of any kind with Arafat or any Palestinian who does not recognize the legitimate sovereignty of Israel. No diplomatic relations with the government of an independent Gaza unless it is democratically elected.

No more toleration of French anti-Semitism. Sever diplomatic relations with France and resume them only after Daniel Bernard, France's ambassador to England, who denounced Israel as a "shitty little country," is removed from any position in the French government.

No more toleration of equivalences. At every turn, it seems, from the cover of the London Economist, to the editorials of the New York Times, to countless media outlets in Europe, there is an attempt to make the actions of Palestinian Nazis and those of Israel defending against them morally equivalent. Attempts to muzzle or control the media are non-starters. But at every opportunity, such equivalence should be unrelentingly denounced.

And here is where to begin with all of this: No more Arabs in Jerusalem. Every Palestinian suicide bomber story starts with: "An Arab got on a bus in Jerusalem and …" or "An Arab on a busy street in Jerusalem. …" The solution to stopping suicide terror in Jerusalem is obvious: Expel the Arabs from the city.
No Arab should be allowed on a bus in Jerusalem. No Arab should be allowed to walk on a street in Jerusalem. No Arab should be allowed within miles of any bar mitzvah, wedding or other gathering in Jerusalem. No Arabs should be allowed in Jerusalem at all without a permit to do so, such as to operate a business or visit Al Aqsa on the Temple Mount.

Start this with West Jerusalem and extend it through East Jerusalem if necessary. Palestinians must be made to accept the fact that Israel exists and will take whatever measures are required to preserve its existence.

These measures must include no longer caring about world opinion. Israel should no longer be concerned with the opinions of those who tolerate evil. It should only be concerned with this unalterable fact: Where evil is tolerated, evil thrives.

It is time the world recognizes Palestinian terrorism as a form, indeed the heir, of Nazism. It is time Israel demanded that the toleration of such evil no longer be accepted by civilized societies. It is time for human garbage such as Robert Mugabe, Saddam Hussein and Yasser Arafat be disposed of along with Osama bin Laden. Peace, prosperity and civilization itself can be achieved only by the refusal to tolerate the evil such men embody.

Copyright 2002, Dr. Jack Wheeler and the Freedom Research Foundation.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/3/25/175330.shtml
 
No, I don't think the end of the world is near. At least not for the reason that there is evil in the world. We will always have evil, always have war.

We don't know the hour when the world will end. It will be a surprise to us all.
 
Since it's a done deal

why worry about it. Who wants to fuck?
 
5. Target Mecca. The only way to force the Arab world to accept the existence of Israel is to give it no hope that Israel will be defeated and vanish. The only way to accomplish this is to hold Mecca as a nuclear hostage.

I suppose we all fantasise and this is all Jack is doing. He's just Jacking off again. Almost normal.
 
Uhhh, maybe you don't understand the depths of fundamentalism (you obviously weren't born yesterday, you ancient fawker you...), even in America, but I can assure you, this chap means what he rights, er., writes...

And there are a lot of people out there who read this sort of thing nodding thier heads saying, yeah, Yeah! YEAH!!!!!!!!!
 
Cheyenne said:
No, I don't think the end of the world is near. At least not for the reason that there is evil in the world. We will always have evil, always have war.

We don't know the hour when the world will end. It will be a surprise to us all.
The problem with trying to hold a man - ANY man - down, is that to do so you have to stay down there with him. Similarly, "taking" somebody down implies clearly accompanying for the duration...

That said, I take great comfort in knowing the world cannot end today - it's already tomorrow in Australia.
 
yipee

"Its the end of the world as we know it.
It's the end of the world as we know it.
and i feel fine.":p
 
SINthysist said:
And here is where to begin with all of this: No more Arabs in Jerusalem. Every Palestinian suicide bomber story starts with: "An Arab got on a bus in Jerusalem and …" or "An Arab on a busy street in Jerusalem. …" The solution to stopping suicide terror in Jerusalem is obvious: Expel the Arabs from the city.
No Arab should be allowed on a bus in Jerusalem. No Arab should be allowed to walk on a street in Jerusalem. No Arab should be allowed within miles of any bar mitzvah, wedding or other gathering in Jerusalem. No Arabs should be allowed in Jerusalem at all without a permit to do so, such as to operate a business or visit Al Aqsa on the Temple Mount.


The problem is, how would you know who is Arab and who is Jew?

I have an idea. We have all Arabs wear a crescent moon prominently on the outside of their clothing. That way, you can tell at a glance. :rolleyes:

This article didn't read like it came from a Jack Wheeler, it seemed more likely to have come from a Jackass.:mad:
 
Re: Re: You don't think the end of the world is near?

Mensa said:
The problem is, how would you know who is Arab and who is Jew?

I have an idea. We have all Arabs wear a crescent moon prominently on the outside of their clothing. That way, you can tell at a glance. :rolleyes:

This article didn't read like it came from a Jack Wheeler, it seemed more likely to have come from a Jackass.:mad:
I think having a large A embroidered on their clothing in a distinctive color would do it. Perhaps scarlet would show up nicely? Yes, I think that's it, a nice large scarlet letter...
 
Yes the article is from Jack Wheeler. The link is there.

Passover bombing death toll continues to rise.
We are getting ready to attack Iraq.
Perfect opportunity for Isreal to deploy.
Perfect opportunity for Arab States to go on warpath.
Perfect opportunity for Russian-Sino axis to move on United States interests.
Perfect opportunity for European Allies to say, "We're sitting this one out."

Yes, I am sure peace will break out very, very soon... ;)
 
SINthysist said:
Yes the article is from Jack Wheeler. The link is there.

Passover bombing death toll continues to rise.
We are getting ready to attack Iraq.
Perfect opportunity for Isreal to deploy.
Perfect opportunity for Arab States to go on warpath.
Perfect opportunity for Russian-Sino axis to move on United States interests.
Perfect opportunity for European Allies to say, "We're sitting this one out."

Yes, I am sure peace will break out very, very soon... ;)

I am not surprised Jack Wheeler is taken seriously SIN: it is easy to frighten people. Look at all the oldies, even my generation, who feel that everywhere, even the cities, are less safe than they've ever been, without all the international tales of terrorism and destruction.

Balance it, however, against the millions of daily international transactions on a business, cultural and social level: the social advances of all societies; scientific progress on a range of fronts; and the communication between people with different positions afforded by new technology and the picture is a lot more optimistic.
 
I respectfully beg to disagree.

I see "the millions of daily international transactions on a business, cultural and social level: the social advances of all societies; scientific progress on a range of fronts; and the communication between people with different positions afforded by new technology" merely as a better infrastructure for those whom would take by force that which they cannot have due to thier traditional methods of conducting business.

I mean, the world was much more technically advanced in '38 as opposed to '12, and as such, the Germans did not get bogged down the second time.

I think we are merely shouting at each other faster and clearer...
 
The world has been ending since before time began.

So what else is new?
 
SINthysist said:
I respectfully beg to disagree.

I see "the millions of daily international transactions on a business, cultural and social level: the social advances of all societies; scientific progress on a range of fronts; and the communication between people with different positions afforded by new technology" merely as a better infrastructure for those whom would take by force that which they cannot have due to thier traditional methods of conducting business.

I mean, the world was much more technically advanced in '38 as opposed to '12, and as such, the Germans did not get bogged down the second time.

I think we are merely shouting at each other faster and clearer...

I believe that we are in a completely new era of evolutionary change, SIN. The inter-connectivity of minds is taking place as never before - and was never possible before. That's a completely new phenomenon. When I was younger, I could discuss things with those in the same college, maybe same univeristy - slowly by mail, concisely by phone. Over the past 8 years, this has changed - what was a simple framework, has become an array, then rows then multiple dimensions, then many lanscapes in many dimensions. And the amazing thing is I can still find my way around - even see where I am better than before.

Jack Wheeler - and the power seeking politicians have their days numbered because evolutionary change is much bigger and more powerful than they are. The fist step in all spiritual growth is to be aware of our own insignificance. It is the first step to realising our own great significance.

These guys appear to be still crawing around to me.
 
I believe it is the same old world with Islam poised to lash out at Christianity and Russia and China aching to have a go at the United States and restore the balance of power.

To say that we are capable of communicating is not to say we are communicating.
 
SINthysist said:
I mean, the world was much more technically advanced in '38 as opposed to '12, and as such, the Germans did not get bogged down the second time.

More importantly, they followed the von Schlieffen (sp?) Plan which was developed after the Franco-Prussian war of 1870. It was available for use in WWI, but involved violation of Dutch neutrality--the Imperial Army didn't go for it, the Nazi's had no such compunction. Not having to get your army past Maastricht really speeds things up.
 
Are we talking the how or the why?

Look at how improved communications had gotten in '38 again. One has to assume that they were better than in '14, better infrastructure...

But with all the communicating that one Adolf Hitler was dispensing, one Neville Chaimberlain still DECIDED to hear another message.

You see, my friends, technologies change all the time. It's the bloody fawking people who refuse to change and century after century continue to play the same roles, the aggressor, the appeasor, the strong man who comes along to clean up the mess, to then in turn become the aggressor...
 
SINthysist said:


You see, my friends, technologies change all the time. It's the bloody fawking people who refuse to change and century after century continue to play the same roles, the aggressor, the appeasor, the strong man who comes along to clean up the mess, to then in turn become the aggressor...

Roght, Sin, your talking about cyles of violence, abuse and crime.

These can be broken precisely by bringing to consciousness the repetitions involved and haviing them exposed in a larger arena - e.g. from family into community: community into nation and now into the eyes of the world.

Perfectly possible, but not easy, to break these cycles.
 
SINthysist said:
Name one, por favor...

Breaking cycles in families - the mcGreggors, sheep stealers in Scotland - cycle broken by improved ecomomic conditions.

There's one
 
And the Hatfields and McCoy's stopped feudin' too...

But families have less momentum than Nation-States, ethnic blocks, and religious factions.

For example, France, Brittan, and Germany are playing nice. But really, how long will the NHRE last?

And this time, the Germans will have a tunnel :D !
 
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