You can worry about the Russians if you want,

[von_Bismarck]

1) Doesn't know that "to sire" does not equal "to impregnate."

2) Calls a "collection of tissue" a baby. Whatever will your baby-killing buddies think?

3) I strongly support a woman's right to choose not to have Luk sire their child.




Aside from the fact that both are the same question, I notice you offered no answer to either or repudiated my explanation as to why that was.

...and more to the point, how the information disseminated in memes help to guide them in that direction. At that time the social media platforms weren't even pretending to be neutral there were Zuckerberg employees working directly for the Obama campaign.

No political Consultants a girdled with the baggage of the first Obama administration wood be delighted with that candidate on paper. I guess they might have perked up if they had been told oh but by the way he is "an attractive black man with no negro dialect unless he wants to."

It's possible that voters did not want to fire the historic black guy. I have to admit that that's a reasonable explanation as well. Maybe nobody read any of the memes and they just were reluctant to fire him. It is impossible that fully informed voters would have reelected him based on actua, measurable job performance.

No, they're not the same question, dumbass. One question is highly subjective and context dependent. The other question is essentially empirical, and could be answered with a survey. If you want to know the answer to the better phrased question, I suggest you run a Google search on your TracFone.

 

[Stain_mAnn]

It's easy to see why lil queef's wife left him, isnt it?

 

[Que]

No, they're not the same question, dumbass. One question is highly subjective and context dependent. The other question is essentially empirical, and could be answered with a survey. If you want to know the answer to the better phrased question, I suggest you run a Google search on your TracFone.

If they're such different questions go ahead and answer them both to show how amazingly different those questions are because they yield such different answers.

 

[Luk]

1) Doesn't know that "to sire" does not equal "to impregnate."

2) Calls a "collection of tissue" a baby. Whatever will your baby-killing buddies think?

3) I strongly support a woman's right to choose not to have Luk sire their child.

Do you even comprehend, bro? I never said anything about them being the same to compare, dummy.

I was using "baby" in terms a religious 45 fanatic could understand.

My choice to not have children was never the woman's decision, dipshit.

 

[navytime09]

Congratulations, you're in the upper half.

My point is people are far less bright than we give them credit for. It's ridiculous to assert that Madison Avenue (the home of ad agencies in the USA) can absolutely sway huge blocks of the population to buy one soap over the other, but somehow people are too smart and analytical to be swayed on issues and candidates like the sheep that they are.

People pay more attention to ads for Chevrolets than they do for candidates or issues.

Hillary outspent Trump 2 to 1 the only reason she's not president is she didn't spend the money in the right States, and didn't have a defined message that lends itself to salesmanship. More of the same when the same is economic malaise is not a message.

Obama was largely reelected on Facebook memes. Nobody voted for Obama they voted against the rich guy that was going to impoverish the masses, put Negroes back in chains, and outlaw birth control after personally impregnating the women...

This made me think about a comment I read last week in regards to a FOX news article about how DT has normalized racism, lying, scapegoating and corruption. I thought it was revelent. Others my not and I'm sorry if it too long, lots of big words and all. To be clear I didn't write it, just thought had merit on what was said.

No. Fox News has normalized racism, lying, scapegoating and corruption. Trump is just another rich, narcissistic sack of shit that has gleefully embraced Fox News' weaponization of propaganda and managed to coast into the presidency because he simply emulated at the podium the type of bullshit that Republican voters were accustomed to hearing on the television 24/7.

For fuck's sake, I remember during the Obama administration when Fox News would have Donald Trump call in all the god damn time and talk about global fucking warming, and they would treat him as if he was in any way, shape or form qualified to talk about that fucking subject. Or when they'd let him call in to talk about Obama's fucking birth certificate, and nod along when he was talking about all the evidence he had that Obama was born in Kenya that he never produced and never will because he fucking lied and made it up.

Fox News acted like that was an actual news story, instead of the horribly transparent publicity stunt of this imbecilic, racist man child. And do you think for one fucking second Fox News would have ran that story if, say, Joe Biden were President? Fuck no, they ran it because they're racist and they give their viewers racist scraps of raw meat.

Fox News was created to function as a machine to make up the deficit for the terrible policies and reprehensible behavior of Republicans by keeping the voter base distracted, cripplingly misinformed, and angry at everything except for the real problems and the real enemies.

Fox News perfected the language of racist dogwhistles (welfare, food stamps, "Chicago") that made it extremely easy for Republican voters and politicians to espouse obviously racist and primitively tribalist views in public with the thinnest amount of plausible deniability for their racism.

Fox News perfected lying. They lie constantly. They omit truths to shape their headlines and their content. They misconstrue facts. They fail to notify their viewers when, say, one of their "legal experts" happens to be the lawyer for an accused Russian spy. Fox News is so prolific at lying that they're fucking motto for YEARS was "fair and balanced", and that's just fucking hysterical because they're literally the exact opposite of fair and balanced in every conceivable way, shape and form. They also call themselves "news," which is a lie; they're propaganda, and their most popular product are pundits and talking heads at their station who make up whatever bullshit they want and then this is repeated as though its true on their news segments.

Fox News perfected scapegoating (everything is the Democrats' fault, even mistakes clearly made by inept Republicans). Hillary Clinton literally hasn't even held public office in three years and holds absolutely no power or authority and someone on Fox News blames her for something every god damn night. Someone at the daily show ought to just pour over Fox News feeds for the last three years because you could absolutely find footage of someone blaming Clinton for something every. Fucking. Night.

Fox News is the actual embodiment of political corruption. They provide a propaganda service for Republicans who in turn pass policies that are good for Murdoch's bottom line. They don't inform. They don't report.

Without Fox News, the world world would be a dramatically better place. Nixon was forced out of office because we didn't have Fox News.

And now that we do have Fox News, suddenly, coincidentally, Republicans find it infinitely easier to root themselves into their offices despite a mind-boggling litany of crimes that now, thanks to Trump, includes high treason against America.

Fuck you, Fox News. The damage you've done to the fabric of Democracy is incalculable.

EDIT: And I want to add one more thing. I despise Donald Trump. And the Trump administration is a fascist catastrophe that threatens our entire democracy.

But Donald Trump is not the problem. Donald Trump is a fat, spoiled rich baby. He's ambitious, and spiteful, but he's not intelligent. He isn't. The proof is overwhelming. He inherited a real estate business and made some money until nosediving it into the ground. He's sustained himself with various criminal enterprises and maneuvers that he's escaped prosecution for mostly because we do a fucking shit job of bringing justice to the wealthy.

And once you realize that Donald Trump is a really stupid human being, you have to ask - then why is he President?

And the answer is because for the last half a century, Republicans have built one of the largest and most extensive organized crime rings in existence. They have built a system that legitimizes preposterous levels of corruption.

They seized on the fact that the constitution grants disproportionate representation in congress and the executive to those who hold the most states, even if those states are mostly empty.

Mitch McConnell got less than eight hundred thousand votes in his 2014 election, and now he has a stranglehold over the Senate. That's fucking incredible.

For comparison, Chuck Schumer got over five MILLION votes, and he's the minority leader and almost entirely powerless.

Who the ever-loving fuck thinks that a party that never wins the popular vote, that has a terrible approval rating and has never represented a majority of Americans should hold literally all the ratchets of power?

So you have these petty criminals and crooks rising up in essentially third-world states, like Kentucky. They've banded together. Now they have a propaganda network. They get their funding from wealthy donors that want to pass laws to legalize their unethical business practices, almost always to the detriment of the American people. And thanks to Fox News, they have an easy-to-access non-stop propaganda stream that passes itself off as news and tells a fictional fairy tale about a Republican party that doesn't exist.

Take away all their bullshit. Take away all the window dressings, the family values. Look at what they do. Dick Cheney spent trillions of our tax dollars on a war to make him and his buddies rich. I say Dick, because Bush was mostly window dressing to draw attention away from him. Now Trump is running America like a business - which is to say, he's running it like an entity which exists entirely to make him wealthy and which he has full control and ownership over.

Look at the tax bill 1.5 trillion, written by lobbyists, to make the tax evasions and other fuckery of their corporations legal, to the detriment of America.

Everything they do is nakedly, openly criminal. But they've found the Thieve's Loophole - it isn't a crime if you ARE the law.

If you just look at them without the trappings - without the suits, without the pomp and prestige of their offices - they are bare-assed crooks. And I know people say that about politicians. And politicians get up to a lot of shit - in any country, in any party.

But Republicans are not just individually criminal. Republicans are a criminal organization. They behave identical to one. Their entire legislative approach is basically a protection racket. Corporations pay them, and in return they don't unleash the law on them, or regulatory agencies on them. Other countries play ball or they unleash their horrendously bloated military on them. Which Republicans always want to make bigger. Because what gangster doesn't want more guns?

Even liberals are, in a way, in denial about the extent to which the entire Republican party is an organized crime operation. In some way we believe their legitimacy, because, they're politicians, right? They do fundraisers and speak at colleges. George W. Bush slaps Obama's ass with a binder, so they can't be all bad, right?

But as we speak Republicans are refusing outright to put any money towards literally protecting our Democracy from the attacks of a hostile foreign nation. Republican Senators are standing up and saying we should reduce sanctions on Russia. They fucking stole 1.5 trillion dollars from all taxpayers to give it to the very, very select few who pay them. They are conspiring to insulate their own President, a man who may just be the most corrupt human being to have ever lived, from any form of justice, while simultaneously refusing to impose any of the checks and balances on him that are their constitutional responsibility to impose, all to keep voters happy so that they, personally, can keep their precious seats and can continue to personally profit from their stations.

Trump admitted on live TV he fired the FBI director to protect himself in a legal investigation into his complicity in helping a foreign government attack us.

Republicans did nothing.

Trump called the media - a cornerstone of our Democracy and the shining pillar of the first amendment - the "enemy of the people," because they report "fake news", a word which by Trump's own public admission means stories that paint him in a negative light, regardless of their accuracy or veracity.

Republicans did nothing.

Trump has refused to divest from his business and forced the federal government to pay millions of dollars staying at his properties in the most obvious and blatant corrupt uses of federal power I've ever seen.

Republicans paid.

When a child acts like a selfish brat, and the parents reward them for it, you don't blame the child.

This is who the Republican part is at it's core. Every piece of their apparatus - from congress to their SCOTUS picks to Fox News - is a part of it. They are criminals. They wear suits and robes, but at the end of the day they're just the most successful version of the mob. They are the mob that finally achieved legitimacy and became the law.

 

[von_Bismarck]

If they're such different questions go ahead and answer them both to show how amazingly different those questions are because they yield such different answers.

Sometimes I can't actually tell if you're being deliberately obtuse or not.

 

[BBX50]

STFU, SkidMark

 

[von_Bismarck]

You first.

 

[Que]

Do you even comprehend, bro? I never said anything about them being the same to compare, dummy.

I was using "baby" in terms a religious 45 fanatic could understand.

My choice to not have children was never the woman's decision, dipshit.

Which "wimminz" reproductive rights did you control, and how did you accomplish that, since, as far as I know you aren't Muslim nor do you live in a Muslim controlled country.

And you most definitely did equate the two because you claimed that knocking up a woman (who chooses to abort) is the same as siring a child and it's not.

You should never use the word comprehend. It's simply too ironic; the universe might fracture.

Serious question what was your learning disability that is caused such a lifelong feeling of intellectual inferiority? Was it dyslexia? That would be my top guess.

 

[Luk]

Sometimes I can't actually tell if you're being deliberately obtuse or not.

He tries to give hisself as many "outs" as possible to avoid being proven to be the liar he is. It obviously fails miserably.

 

[Que]

This made me think about a comment I read last week in regards to a FOX news article about how DT has normalized racism, lying, scapegoating and corruption. I thought it was revelent. Others my not and I'm sorry if it too long, lots of big words and all. To be clear I didn't write it, just thought had merit on what was said.

I don't see anything specific worth responding to in that TDS screed. The author of that nonsense seems completely unaware that Trump was at war with Fox News during much of his campaign once he clinched the Republican nomination they were a little bit friendlier only because of their understandable distaste for Hillary Clinton.

I'm pretty amazed myself that he actually became president of the United States. He used to go on those shows and pontificate about what he would do if he was President a lot of which I wouldn't necessarily agree with such as his protectionist ideas. But yet here he is President doing the very things that he said he would do if he were president.

One of those truth is Stranger Than Fiction sort of things.

As far as his childish behavior that's not in any way shape or form news to anyone.

And you TDS patients really have to let go of that whole everyone who disagrees is a racist trope. The whole point of that exercise was to get blacks to vote when they don't have a black guy at the top of the ticket. Obama cannot run again so screaming racism every 5 minutes isn't going to get out the vote. At least, not for you. Large swaths of the populist who don't particularly have any interest in race race relations or racist specifically voted as a pushback of being called racist just because they don't like Hillary Clinton. They didn't like Bill Clinton the first black president not because he was the first black president but because he stood for policies that they did not approve of.

 

[Que]

Sometimes I can't actually tell if you're being deliberately obtuse or not.

I have no difficulty at all noticing when you're unable to actually engage in a discussion that you have interjected yourself into.

There is nothing even remotely obtuse about directly suggesting that you answer the questions that you posed to compare and contrast the answers which you are suggesting would somehow magically be different when the questions are essentially the same.

 

[Luk]

Which "wimminz" reproductive rights did you control, and how did you accomplish that, since, as far as I know you aren't Muslim nor do you live in a Muslim controlled country.

And you most definitely did equate the two because you claimed that knocking up a woman (who chooses to abort) is the same as siring a child and it's not.

You should never use the word comprehend. It's simply too ironic; the universe might fracture.

Serious question what was your learning disability that is caused such a lifelong feeling of intellectual inferiority? Was it dyslexia? That would be my top guess.

If I choose not to impregnate them, it's my choice. Damn, how does your sucking at comprehension mean *I* have a disability? It doesn't, you're a lying moron.

 

[Luk]

......

^^too mentally challenged to operate a web browser^^

 

[von_Bismarck]

I have no difficulty at all noticing when you're unable to actually engage in a discussion that you have interjected yourself into.

There is nothing even remotely obtuse about directly suggesting that you answer the questions that you posed to compare and contrast the answers which you are suggesting would somehow magically be different when the questions are essentially the same.

God damn.

Get some rest, Queef.

 

[Que]

If I choose not to impregnate them, it's my choice. Damn, how does your sucking at comprehension mean *I* have a disability? It doesn't, you're a lying moron.

So how did you "sire" <sic> the "babies" you claim to have aborted with a coat hanger?

It's pretty obvious that my original point stands that no woman was foolish enough as to have a child with you ever, yet you have lots of snow hurricane commentary about fatherhood. It's not only not in your lane you're not even on the freeway, champ.

 

[Que]

God damn.

Get some rest, Queef.

Why do you wade in on subjects that you're clearly ill-prepared to actually discuss?

 

[Que]

^^too mentally challenged to operate a web browser^^

Hurr, derr. That's a sick burn!

 

[von_Bismarck]

Why do you wade in on subjects that you're clearly ill-prepared to actually discuss?

Why do you constantly display your lack of reading comprehension?

 

[Que]

Why do you constantly display your lack of reading comprehension?

Why don't you try writing something on the subject that you waded in on, and we'll see whether I can comprehend your dribble or not..

. . .or you could just keep deflecting at avoiding. It's what you do.

Remember when you hid out and avoided your own thread for well over a month?

Good times!

 

[von_Bismarck]

Why don't you try writing something on the subject that you waded in on, and we'll see whether I can comprehend your dribble or not..

. . .or you could just keep deflecting at avoiding. It's what you do.

Remember when you hid out and avoided your own thread for well over a month?

Good times!

I already did, and more than the thread starter deserves.

 

[Que]

I already did, and more than the thread starter deserves.

The pontificating "A BETTER question is ________________" gambit only works as a redirect if you actually answer the question you pose.

~snip~ Why he was the stronger candidate is a poorly formed question. A better question is for what reasons why he was regarded as the better candidate by the voting public.

<. . .and. . .nothing....>

That's the problem with the increased confidence that Toastmasters gave you. They taught you how to borrow other people's ideas and give a speech but you can't handle the question and answer follow-up; that would require some depth of knowledge on the subject that you are pontificating on.

It's okay no harm done, slink away. At least you didn't commit this embarrassment under your root ID am I right?

 

[von_Bismarck]

The pontificating "A BETTER question is ________________" gambit only works as a redirect if you actually answer the question you pose.



<. . .and. . .nothing....>

That's the problem with the increased confidence that Toastmasters gave you. They taught you how to borrow other people's ideas and give a speech but you can't handle the question and answer follow-up; that would require some depth of knowledge on the subject that you are pontificating on.

It's okay no harm done, slink away. At least you didn't commit this embarrassment under your root ID am I right?

Sadly, the case for deliberate obtuseness has evaporated.

 

[SpeareChucker]

I don't see anything specific worth responding to in that TDS screed. The author of that nonsense seems completely unaware that Trump was at war with Fox News during much of his campaign once he clinched the Republican nomination they were a little bit friendlier only because of their understandable distaste for Hillary Clinton.

I'm pretty amazed myself that he actually became president of the United States. He used to go on those shows and pontificate about what he would do if he was President a lot of which I wouldn't necessarily agree with such as his protectionist ideas. But yet here he is President doing the very things that he said he would do if he were president.

One of those truth is Stranger Than Fiction sort of things.

As far as his childish behavior that's not in any way shape or form news to anyone.

And you TDS patients really have to let go of that whole everyone who disagrees is a racist trope. The whole point of that exercise was to get blacks to vote when they don't have a black guy at the top of the ticket. Obama cannot run again so screaming racism every 5 minutes isn't going to get out the vote. At least, not for you. Large swaths of the populist who don't particularly have any interest in race race relations or racist specifically voted as a pushback of being called racist just because they don't like Hillary Clinton. They didn't like Bill Clinton the first black president not because he was the first black president but because he stood for policies that they did not approve of.

A lot of this post rings true.
I didn't vote for the guy, but if you look at who he was running against, it is clear why people voted for him, but if you do not daily castigate him in every thread, then you support him.
The people who voted for him, despite all of his personal baggage, bad behavior, language and petty lies, did so because they were sick of the sonorous, high-handed and over-the-top lies that were covered up by the media from the crop of "accepted" establishment candidates.

 

[Luk]

So how did you "sire" <sic> the "babies" you claim to have aborted with a coat hanger?

It's pretty obvious that my original point stands that no woman was foolish enough as to have a child with you ever, yet you have lots of snow hurricane commentary about fatherhood. It's not only not in your lane you're not even on the freeway, champ.

God damnit, Q-####, I said I have aborted more babies than you sired. It's like playing cards with my brother's kids.

You should back away from the board for a long while and regroup. You're working on 2 weeks of shit pisting nonsense and outright lies.