You are an idiot if you think your personal firearms have any political value

[KingOrfeo]

And if you're training with an unofficial "militia" or something, you're a flaming idiot, and an asshole too. You can use your pistols or rifles to shoot (or scare) home-invaders, fine. You can use them to shoot deer. You can use them to shoot inanimate targets for fun and skill. But if you use them to shoot police officers, or FBI or ATF agents, or U.S. soldiers or National Guardsmen, you will deserve everything you get including death. Don't even think about it. Anyone who thinks the "insurrectionary theory" of the Second Amendment has any relevance or value in this day and age is way worse than stupid.

 

[ChinaBandit]

As far as I am concerned, US politics only comes into play when a US politician seeks to change existing guns laws.

 

[blobfish]

I would not shoot any politicians.

 

[unregistered]

 

[KingOrfeo]

As far as I am concerned, US politics only comes into play when a US politician seeks to change existing guns laws.

And why do you think that?

 

[dirtycarol]

If they have no political value, then why are the shitcago thugs so desperate to have the citizens disarmed?

 

[KingOrfeo]

If they have no political value, then why are the shitcago thugs so desperate to have the citizens disarmed?

If you're talking about the current Admin, it hasn't exactly made gun control a priority. Neither do I, we have much higher priorities. But gun ownership simply is not a politically important thing like, say, voting rights. And too many gun-nuts seem to think it is; they never actually say they want their guns so they can shoot the cops/Feds/Army if necessary, but the subtext is always there.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And if you're training with an unofficial "militia" or something, you're a flaming idiot, and an asshole too. You can use your pistols or rifles to shoot (or scare) home-invaders, fine. You can use them to shoot deer. You can use them to shoot inanimate targets for fun and skill. But if you use them to shoot police officers, or FBI or ATF agents, or U.S. soldiers or National Guardsmen, you will deserve everything you get including death. Don't even think about it. Anyone who thinks the "insurrectionary theory" of the Second Amendment has any relevance or value in this day and age is way worse than stupid.

SHUT THE FUCK UP DONNY YOU ARE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE.

 

[dirtycarol]

If you're talking about the current Admin, it hasn't exactly made gun control a priority. Neither do I, we have much higher priorities. But gun ownership simply is not a politically important thing like, say, voting rights. And too many gun-nuts seem to think it is; they never actually say they want their guns so they can shoot the cops/Feds/Army if necessary, but the subtext is always there.

If obongo gets reelected, I'm sure he'll make it a priority. Thugs can't abide an armed citizenry.

 

[KingOrfeo]

If obongo gets reelected, I'm sure he'll make it a priority. Thugs can't abide an armed citizenry.

And what exactly is this "armed citizenry" to do with its arms, you idiot?

 

[BotanyBoy]

And what exactly is this "armed citizenry" to do with its arms, you idiot?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare

Read up dumbshit...

 

[Joeybagadonuts]

It always amuses me to see how much energy the right puts into protecting their guns. I think they spend a lot of time and money fighting a shadow.

“Obama's gonna take our guns.”

lmfao

 

[KingOrfeo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare

Read up dumbshit...

And what makes that a good idea? Try it and you'll die, and you'll deserve to die, and the soldier/guardsman who shoots you will not.

 

[dirtycarol]

And what exactly is this "armed citizenry" to do with its arms, you idiot?

Oh, excuse me, I see you're a lib-tard. Common sense makes no sense to you.

 

[eyer]

What's the matter, King0? That socialist neck of yours starting to feel a little heat?

Suck this, statist...

The 2nd Amendment

As passed by the Congress:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of State:

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

"A free people ought to be armed."
- George Washington

"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."
- George Washington

"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
- George Washington

“Never trust a government that doesn’t trust its own citizens with guns.”
- Benjamin Franklin

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria)

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson

"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson

"Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self defense."
- John Adams:

"To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason

"I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."
- George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe."
- Noah Webster

"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority ... the Constitution was made to guard against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."
- Noah Webster

"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster

"A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a Republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace."
- James Madison

"Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms."
- James Madison

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
- James Madison

"The ultimate authority resides in the people alone."
- James Madison

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."
- Richard Henry Lee

"A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves ... and include all men capable of bearing arms."
- Richard Henry Lee

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."
- Patrick Henry

"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."
- St. George Tucker

"... arms ... discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property.... Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them."
- Thomas Paine

"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
- Samuel Adams

"The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them."
- Joseph Story

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts

If you haven't figured it out yet, socialists, the 2nd Amendment is one of those unalienable, or inherent rights of any free individual; the right to self-defense being among the very core of natural law, regardless of any man's opinion...

...meaning that, in these here United States of America, that individual right is above the power of any government or any branch of government - executive, legislative, or judicial - to affect.

And, if any government in toto does not fulfill it's Constitutional oath to protect that right of every American, it is committing treason and is then justifiably subject to the full force of the natural law it is breaking..

You can either obey the Law and work to get the 2nd Amendment amended to favor your socialist slant (which ain't going to happen), or you can keep goosestepping in your social democratic way by erecting unconstitutional laws which might very well, eventually, result in your own demise...

...it seems to me this will just take maybe one or two more serious pushes to prove its revolutionary truthfulness.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And what makes that a good idea? Try it and you'll die, and you'll deserve to die, and the soldier/guardsman who shoots you will not.

Your ignorance is showing dumb shit.....it was and always has been the most effective method of resistance, turned the tide of practically every war.

They can't kill me if they never see me

 

[bra_man69]

Kingofidiots is recycling posts and making them threads now

 

[Bert Notorius]

Yeah right. Republicans are the only gun owners out there. I'm waiting for that sleeping Canadian giant to come spilling over the border like Tet. Don't fire until you see the whites of their tuques.

 

[blobfish]

Yeah right. Republicans are the only gun owners out there. I'm waiting for that sleeping Canadian giant to come spilling over the border like Tet. Don't fire until you see the whites of their tuques.

THAT is funny!

 

[KingOrfeo]

Your ignorance is showing dumb shit.....it was and always has been the most effective method of resistance, turned the tide of practically every war.

They can't kill me if they never see me

They'll see you.

 

[Licia]

Don't look up, whatever you do!

 

[ChinaBandit]

If you're talking about the current Admin, it hasn't exactly made gun control a priority. Neither do I, we have much higher priorities. But gun ownership simply is not a politically important thing like, say, voting rights. And too many gun-nuts seem to think it is; they never actually say they want their guns so they can shoot the cops/Feds/Army if necessary, but the subtext is always there.

This is a totally bogus indictment and your "subtext" is personal opinion devoid of any fact.

What percentage (of the nearly 50% of American households that contain a firearm) would you consider to be the "nuts" that seek to protect these rights for the purpose of using of their weapons against legalized authority?

 

[BotanyBoy]

They'll see you.

National guard? BAHAHAHAHAHA

Your ignorance is hanging even further out in the wind KO.

 

[ottohauser1977]

What of leftists who favor gun rights and the right to revolt, comrade?

 

[1fromawoodpile]

"we can ride, always creep with the nine by my side, when i ride"