Yes Finally someone who agrees with me about UNICEF

Todd

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DON’T GIVE TO UNICEF

Tomorrow night is Halloween. This used to be a night when little kids would dress up as monsters and ghosts and such and go from door to door getting handouts of candy. Now it’s a holiday when teenagers dress up as teenagers and go from door to door acting like voids surrounded by sphincter muscles.

At some point tomorrow night some misguided youngun will come to your door collecting money for UNICEF. It will probably be part of a school project --- a government school project.
I am totally opposed to donating money to UNICEF. Donating money to UNICEF is donating money to the United Nations. The United Nations is not friendly toward The United States. Never has been. Never will be. Every penny handed over to UNICEF by some American child will be spent – on whatever – under the name of The United Nations, not The United States.

Look --- I’m not being cruel here. There are plenty of US based charities that do exactly the same work that UNICEF purports to do --- but that work is done in the name of the people of The United States, not in the name of the UN. We need to make friends around the world. The United States needs to be presented to all people in a positive light whenever and wherever possible. When those meals are put in front of children in some third world country I want them to see “USA” on the label, or an American Flag --- not that UN flag. Its our money, let’s get the credit for it.

Here’s an idea. Have your checkbook ready. If a little UNICEF trick-or-treater shows up at your door tell them to wait while you write a check. Then write a $5.00 check to “Save the Children.” This is a US-based charity that will help children around the world without pushing an anti-American agenda. Give the little goblin a slip of paper that says you have donated $5.00 to “Save the Children” on his behalf.

Stay away from UNICEF. Don’t fund the very organization that is working to destroy our national sovereignty.
 
Todd said:
Stay away from UNICEF. Don’t fund the very organization that is working to destroy our national sovereignty.

How long has New Brunswick shared sovereignty with the United States? Did we invade Canada or something? Why wasn't I told about this?
 
HAPPY HALLOWEEN !

I completly agree, What this country needs less of are organizations praying on the innocent to do there dirty work, the whole idea of kids going door to door for candy, or in this case asking for money for uniceff, I have never understood, nor do I agree or partake of that tradition, to each his own, If we as a society did what we should to help our "neighbor" the world would be a much better place,

ROCK ON.......
 
It's United Nations troops that man frontlines between warring areas. If the US want's all the glory, then you supply all the soldiers that man those frontiers.
If not, support an organisation that is accepted world wide as fighting human suffering, not merely jingoistic flag waving.
 
Hey Todd!Big accusations...back it up!All you've shown is rhetoric.Whilst I disagree with Myrrdin as I am pro USA(I am Welsh by the way) I have always found your previous postings well founded and rational.Perhaps you are privy to things about UNICEF that I am not.Enlighten me.I wouldn't like to think of Todd as anything other than the sane and balanced Literotican I have read and agreed with.
 
I guess Todd doesn't think charity and good works count unless the USA does it. The UN does a lot of things beyond peacekeeping and commitee meeting. You really should check into it. The UN is responsible for keeping millions of people fed, vaccinated, and even in some cases educated. I am not really hot about the UN and its policies toward the US. However, that does not make anti-UN. Good works are good works no matter who does them.

It's like chosing to die because the only person willing to give you CPR is a devil worshipper. :rolleyes:

Todd, some of us know better than to cut off our noses to spite our faces. The UN is not the epitome of evil that you're making it out to be.
 
Wyatt said:
Hey Todd!Big accusations...back it up!All you've shown is rhetoric.Whilst I disagree with Myrrdin as I am pro USA(I am Welsh by the way) I have always found your previous postings well founded and rational.Perhaps you are privy to things about UNICEF that I am not.Enlighten me.I wouldn't like to think of Todd as anything other than the sane and balanced Literotican I have read and agreed with.

Which parts do you want verified I will try to do my best.

As I said in the title this is from someoneelse who just happens to carry the same thoughts on the UNICEF as I do, Neal Boortz.
 
On the subject of charities why give to any?It just encourages governments of any colour to shirk their responsibilities.Every penny you contribute can then be diverted to their pet projects.And we all know where that leads.
 
Isn't Save the Children a Xtian organization that farms out pics and profiles of starving children, all for just pennies a day?
 
pagancowgirl said:
Isn't Save the Children a Xtian organization that farms out pics and profiles of starving children, all for just pennies a day?

If you don't like the xtian organizations I am sure there is a pagan one around somewheres that will be more to your liking.

I don't know any off hand. I have only one groupo I donate to. nope its not the one above.
 
Todd said:


If you don't like the xtian organizations I am sure there is a pagan one around somewheres that will be more to your liking.

I don't know any off hand. I have only one groupo I donate to. nope its not the one above.

It's not the Xtian-ness that bothers me. It's the fact that most of those organizations only send about 20% of the funds raised to the children in question. The rest is 'administrative fees'... like CEO salaries in the mid to high 6 figure range.
 
pagancowgirl said:


It's not the Xtian-ness that bothers me. It's the fact that most of those organizations only send about 20% of the funds raised to the children in question. The rest is 'administrative fees'... like CEO salaries in the mid to high 6 figure range.


Thats why I had to did around quite abit to find one that i liked 73% goes to the children, the rest gets put through mailing , photocping and all those other costs.

and the highest paid member through the organization gets a whopping $5000 dollars a year.

All the employees are required to have a real job or income source. and are 90% volunteer run.

and get this its not even xtian. oh how some of the xtian organizations my church support could learn from this.

sad to say most xtian organizations have the falweel, swagart, baker style of bookkeeping. just another tarnish on the few that are actually legit left in the faith.
 
http://www.unicefusa.org/unicefusa/aboutus.htm
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What is the U.S. Fund for UNICEF?
The U.S. Fund for UNICEF is one of 37 national committees set up around the world to raise money for UNICEF, which works in more than 160 countries and territories providing health care, clean water, improved nutrition, and education to millions of children in Africa, Asia, Central and Eastern Europe, Latin America, and the Middle East.

Organized under the laws of New York State as a not-for-profit corporation, the U.S. Fund for UNICEF is exempt from tax under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code and qualifies for the maximum charitable contribution deduction by donors. Our Federal Identification Number is 13-1760110.

Our mission is to promote the survival, protection and development of all children worldwide through fundraising, advocacy and education. Staff and volunteers for the U.S. Fund for UNICEF support the work of the United Nations Children's Fund in three important ways:
Raising Money

Fundraising for UNICEF programs
Selling UNICEF Greeting Cards
Encouraging children to "Trick-or-Treat" for UNICEF during October, National UNICEF Month

Advocating for the World's Children

Keeping the public informed about what the world's children face and how to help
Urging Congress to support programs that put children first, both in the U.S. and overseas

Raising Awareness among the U.S. Public

Visiting schools and campuses to talk about children's needs around the world
Creating educational materials for teachers

Where you can find us

The U.S. Fund for UNICEF has chapter offices in Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Boulder, Chicago, Columbus, Denver, Detroit, Houston, Indianapolis, Los Angeles, Miami, Milwaukee, New York, Philadelphia, Portland, and Seattle.
There are also smaller volunteer offices across the country. Contact the chapter office in your area to locate the volunteer committee nearest you.
Copyright © 2000 U.S. Fund for UNICEF.
All rights reserved.

U.S. Fund for UNICEF
333 East 38th Street
New York, NY 10016
1-800-FOR-KIDS
E-mail: webmaster@unicefusa.org
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If you had done any research Todd you would have found out that this is a totally American charity, run to aid children across the world.
 
yay Myrrdin good job finding the office of the us fund for unicef

http://www.unicef.org/uwwide/index.html


UNICEF, an integral part of the United Nations system, has its own governing body, an Executive Board that sets policies, reviews programmes and approves budgets. With headquarters in New York, UNICEF carries out its work through eight regional offices and 125 country offices (figures effective as of 31 December 1998). The UNICEF Innocenti Research Centre is located in Florence, Italy. UNICEF cooperates with national governments, non-governmental organizations and other United Nations agencies in 161 countries and territories.

The 37 National Committees for UNICEF, mostly in the industrialized world, are non-governmental organizations that support UNICEF in advocacy for children and fund-raising.

As many as 86 per cent of the 5,594 UNICEF posts are in the field. UNICEF also has an office in Tokyo, and Supply operations based in Copenhagen. Its Private Sector Division commissions, produces and markets the well-known UNICEF cards, calendars and stationery.

A growing number of UNICEF offices and National Committees have email addresses.



http://www.unicef.org/uwwide/index.html
 
Myrrdin said:
[BOur mission is to promote the survival, protection and development of all children worldwide ..................

Urging Congress to support programs that put children first, both in the U.S. and overseas


If you had done any research Todd you would have found out that this is a totally American charity, run to aid children across the world. [/B]


Just a few things that bother me......why is it that the kids across the ocean need more help than the ones at home???? I see all sorts of ads, commercials, adoptachildinafrica programs.....but seldom ever do I see anything to help the kids at home.

This is why I do Not choose to donate any program I am not sure 100% goes to the US.
 
Beebeeblue said:



Just a few things that bother me......why is it that the kids across the ocean need more help than the ones at home???? I see all sorts of ads, commercials, adoptachildinafrica programs.....but seldom ever do I see anything to help the kids at home.

This is why I do Not choose to donate any program I am not sure 100% goes to the US.

Not saying that all of our childeren are in great shape here many do need lots of help. However, I think childeren that are in the abolutley worst shape here are probably better off then many of the childern abroad in devolping countries.
 
I understand where you are coming from Azwed. But America has spent so much time and effort helping others in need...and look where it has gotten us. Its time to start looking at our own.
 
Charity begins here at home

UNICEF has been around for quite a long time........and
yes, its always been around Halloween that the boxes
for raising money come out.....but my thing is this:
Halloween is not just for going trick-or-treating for
candy and goodies....it can also be for a good cause....
and a way kids can do it is to ask for $$ to give to
UNICEF. Charity begins at home......it is good to help
others less fortunate. However, while it is a good thing
to help those less fortunate overseas, it is important
to focus on the poor here in the US.....yes, there are
many places in the States that have citizens and esp.
the children who really need the basics----food, shelter,
clothing, etc. By the way, I am pro-USA....but UNICEF
and Save The Children are both legit charities that
people can contribute that will benefit children and others
both here and overseas.

And just one word of advice.......it is always good to
check out the background about a charitable organization
before giving!
 
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