Writers writing

[sweetnpetite]

Years ago there was a thread discussing how some litizens made money by writing personal erotic stories for people over the internet... does anybody here do that that would like to share?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Years ago there was a thread discussing how some litizens made money by writing personal erotic stories for people over the internet... does anybody here do that that would like to share?

I have written stories for some women readers, but I have never made any money at it. I find it more fun to write stories for real people, especially when they supply me with nude photos of themselves or, at least, photos they say are of themselves. Many of my first person stories were written on that basis.

 

[Edward Teach]

Years ago there was a thread discussing how some litizens made money by writing personal erotic stories for people over the internet... does anybody here do that that would like to share?

I don't know whether anyone is still writing private stories or not. Most who write for money are having their work published. I remember Lou used to write private quite a bit.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Women dont buy porn.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

I have written stories for some women readers, but I have never made any money at it. I find it more fun to write stories for real people, especially when they supply me with nude photos of themselves or, at least, photos they say are of themselves. Many of my first person stories were written on that basis.

dammit, i thought it was just me that scammed nuddy pics that way.

... uhm, i'm joking BTW.

 

[geronimo_appleby]

Women dont buy porn.

eh? they sure do.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Women dont buy porn.

Women are behind the current explosion in written porn. I learned this at the 2007 Romance Writers of America Conference, where I also learned that:

• Half of all fiction sold in the USA is Romance fiction
• The fastest growing segment of the Romance Fiction market is graphicially erotic romance, i.e. dirty books
• The most popular subject in graphically erotic romance is supernatural erotica
• In teh Supernatural erotica category, shapeshifters just beat out Vampires for the #1 spot in 2007

According to some market analyst I heard speak, the boom in female erotica is fueled by the ability of women to buy books anonymously on the web.

Also: men are much more likely to turn to images to satisfy their erotic needs. Women's erotica (the kind of stuff they prefer), is different than what used to be written for men back in the one-handed-reading days. Women prefer more emotional, less graphic writing, and a lot of social context in their stories. Men just want to see the sex.

English Lady used to write stories for people. See if you can ring her up.

 

[sr71plt]

Women dont buy porn.

Got some bad news for you JBJ. Not only do women buy porn--but they also buy GM porn.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Women are behind the current explosion in written porn. I learned this at the 2007 Romance Writers of America Conference, where I also learned that:

• Half of all fiction sold in the USA is Romance fiction
• The fastest growing segment of the Romance Fiction market is graphicially erotic romance, i.e. dirty books
• The most popular subject in graphically erotic romance is supernatural erotica
• In teh Supernatural erotica category, shapeshifters just beat out Vampires for the #1 spot in 2007

According to some market analyst I heard speak, the boom in female erotica is fueled by the ability of women to buy books anonymously on the web.

Also: men are much more likely to turn to images to satisfy their erotic needs. Women's erotica (the kind of stuff they prefer), is different than what used to be written for men back in the one-handed-reading days. Women prefer more emotional, less graphic writing, and a lot of social context in their stories. Men just want to see the sex.

English Lady used to write stories for people. See if you can ring her up.

Did they give a list of agents/publishers catering to the market?

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Did they give a list of agents/publishers catering to the market?

Yeah, but you can find that by just doing a search. I had a list, but it was a bookmark on my old computer and I didn't save it. I know the list exists on the web though. (As I recall, it's actually a list of publishers with the ones who accept erotica highlighted.)

All the romance publishers now have their erotic sub-labels. I know Harlequin has Spice, but I forget the name of the others off-hand. But they won't take just porn. They want plot and character, and the quality of the writing is actually quite high. Or at least up to their standards. For all the teasing we give to romance, the genre has evolved to produce a pretty sophisticated product, precisely targeted to what market research says the audience wants.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Yeah, but you can find that by just doing a search. I had a list, but it was a bookmark on my old computer and I didn't save it. I know the list exists on the web though. (As I recall, it's actually a list of publishers with the ones who accept erotica highlighted.)

All the romance publishers now have their erotic sub-labels. I know Harlequin has Spice, but I forget the name of the others off-hand. But they won't take just porn. They want plot and character, and the quality of the writing is actually quite high. Or at least up to their standards. For all the teasing we give to romance, the genre has evolved to produce a pretty sophisticated product, precisely targeted to what market research says the audience wants.

Well, then. It's worth a try. I admit that probably it is more profitable to go with e-publishing, but having a physical book in print would be soooooooo good for the ego.

 

[Carmenica Diaz]

Women dont buy porn.

Not only buy it, wewrite it!

 

[Carmenica Diaz]

having a physical book in print would be soooooooo good for the ego.

Suppose it is but once you have it, it's the money that counts.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Quote:
Originally Posted by voluptuary_manque
having a physical book in print would be soooooooo good for the ego.

Suppose it is but once you have it, it's the money that counts.

Maybe. I have two books in print and to ebooks. I sold the first printing rights to the two books for a flat fee and don't receive any kind of royalties. I may try to hawk them again somewhere, but I don't know where.

I do feel pretty good about saying I am a published author, but there isn't much money in it, at least not for me and not yet.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

I am quite sure that e books pay more than published works, especially for us perv-types, and especially for those who aren't established in the publishing world. The first paper book is purely for ego. In the event that I start writing a lot more and someone actually does read it, then money would be nice.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Women are behind the current explosion in written porn. I learned this at the 2007 Romance Writers of America Conference, where I also learned that:

• Half of all fiction sold in the USA is Romance fiction
• The fastest growing segment of the Romance Fiction market is graphicially erotic romance, i.e. dirty books
• The most popular subject in graphically erotic romance is supernatural erotica
• In teh Supernatural erotica category, shapeshifters just beat out Vampires for the #1 spot in 2007

According to some market analyst I heard speak, the boom in female erotica is fueled by the ability of women to buy books anonymously on the web.

Also: men are much more likely to turn to images to satisfy their erotic needs. Women's erotica (the kind of stuff they prefer), is different than what used to be written for men back in the one-handed-reading days. Women prefer more emotional, less graphic writing, and a lot of social context in their stories. Men just want to see the sex.

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That's just the point about the internet. Virgin Books used to have a superb list of erotica 'for women and written by women' but the imprint, Black Lace, folded because women wouldn't reach to the top shelf and take the dead tree book to the counter. Bit like men being embarrassed to buy rubbers in a drugstore

The net has allowed men and women to get their smut (written or visual) anonymously.

 

[sr71plt]

Did they give a list of agents/publishers catering to the market?

Just go to Allromanceebooks.com and open up the publisher list.

 

[TxRad]

That's just the point about the internet. Virgin Books used to have a superb list of erotica 'for women and written by women' but the imprint, Black Lace, folded because women wouldn't reach to the top shelf and take the dead tree book to the counter. Bit like men being embarrassed to buy rubbers in a drugstore

The net has allowed men and women to get their smut (written or visual) anonymously.

You have to find the nitch for hard copy porn. I have a deal with a group of Lingerie/ novelty/ sex toy shops. It's a line of bedside books, read that as erotica. They sell them in the shops on consignment.

A friend of mine prints and binds them and distributes for me. Quite good money and growing all the time. It started locally and now has spread to five states and there are two large chains looking at us.