Writers, please answer my question as a reader

[jomar]

I did a search but nothing came up that answered my question. I 'm working on a chapter story and have tried to have sex in each one because, well, this is Literotica. Problem is that in one chapter the sex isn't working for the character, or the setting for that matter. I can take the sex out without a problem to the story and the chapter would be sexless. But it's a nice little scene, so... As a reader, what would you think if I put the chapter in EC and explained in the author notes a deleted scene is included at the end of the chapter for your enjoyment (sort of like they do on DVDs). Would you feel cheated because of the story category? Would it take you out of the story? Would you be inclined to vote based on the whole thing including the deleted sex scene (even though I asked you not to)? Is it bad form? Has anybody included a deleted scene? Thanks.

 

[slyc_willie]

I have a series in the Novels & Novellas section which is pretty sex-heavy. My fans have loved it. However, in the fifth chapter, there is more characterization than sex, and what sex does exist is constituted of a rape scene. It works for the story, and those who have read up to that point understand and accept it.

Write what you want, what the characters demand. And don't worry about views or votes.

 

[jomar]

I will write what I want and what the story demands. It's demanding that the sex scene be cut. But since it's written, my question is if it could/should be included after the chapter as a deleted scene to give sex to those who want to read sex? Maybe I'm over thinking it.

 

[slyc_willie]

I will write what I want and what the story demands. It's demanding that the sex scene be cut. But since it's written, my question is if it could/should be included after the chapter as a deleted scene to give sex to those who want to read sex? Maybe I'm over thinking it.

If the sex is only there because you think this site 'demands' it, cut it. Of course, this is an erotic website, and readers expect sex in what they read. But in an ongiong series, the characters are more important.

 

[scriptordelecto]

If the sex is only there because you think this site 'demands' it, cut it. Of course, this is an erotic website, and readers expect sex in what they read. But in an ongiong series, the characters are more important.

Agreed. Be true to yourself as a writer. If the sex scene will affect the flow of the story, then it needs to go.

 

[maggot420]

Slyc (and scriptordelecto)are absolutely right. Write the story the way you think it needs to be written. The story has certain demands and you must obey or you're not being true to the art. Cut the scene and leave it out. Your readers will understand.

 

[oggbashan]

I would post it as a complete work, or large chunks of a complete work, rather than in chapters without sex.

Some of my longer stories have Lit pages without sex. If I posted them at the chapter breaks I would have sexless posts and little likelihood that the reader would progress to subsequent chapters.

It is difficult to decide whether to post a story as a whole or in chapters. If the decision is made to post as chapters then in my opinion each chapter should start with a hook, include a sexual scene, and end with a cliff-hanger for the next chapter.

Of course, I don't always follow my own advice...

Og

 

[slyc_willie]

Of course, I don't always follow my own advice...

Og

Do any of us?

 

[rgraham666]

I wouldn't add sex to a story just because the site demands it. But I'm a contrary bastard.

I wouldn't expect the story to do well though.

 

[tickledkitty]

I like the deleted scene scenario just because it's different. If you make no mention of it during the story and attach it to the end with a note as you said, I don't think it would take the reader out of the story at all. As a matter of fact, I think they might get a kick out of it.

 

[jomar]

It is difficult to decide whether to post a story as a whole or in chapters. If the decision is made to post as chapters then in my opinion each chapter should start with a hook, include a sexual scene, and end with a cliff-hanger for the next chapter.

Of course, I don't always follow my own advice...

Og

That's exactly the deal with this story - it's a cliffhanger style. But like others have said, if the characters don't want to have sex I must respect that. So that's why the sex in this chapter should go. But then I'm in a bit of quandry - hook, excitement, cliffhanger...without sex.

I like the deleted scene scenario just because it's different. If you make no mention of it during the story and attach it to the end with a note as you said, I don't think it would take the reader out of the story at all. As a matter of fact, I think they might get a kick out of it.

Which is why I thought of the deleted scene option. And my hope would be what TK said.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I think you should do it.
I'm with TK, I'd get a kick out of it.

 

[S-Des]

That's exactly the deal with this story - it's a cliffhanger style. But like others have said, if the characters don't want to have sex I must respect that. So that's why the sex in this chapter should go. But then I'm in a bit of quandry - hook, excitement, cliffhanger...without sex.

I'll never understand why everyone is so convinced you have to have explicit sex in every chapter of every story. One of the top stories in Romance has no sex at all in it (and several LW stories are in the same boat). Yes, it's Lit...but there are a large number of readers who don't need a constant stream of sex in every story they look at. If you're a writer whose style is very sexual (so your audience expects it), then you might have problems. Otherwise, there's no reason to believe it would make any difference at all.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Jomar,
Sex goes where the sex belongs. The characters are supposed to tell your story. If Wilma has a headache, then forget the sex. Post the thing as a whole in Novel/Novellas.

 

[jomar]

I'll never understand why everyone is so convinced you have to have explicit sex in every chapter of every story. One of the top stories in Romance has no sex at all in it (and several LW stories are in the same boat). Yes, it's Lit...but there are a large number of readers who don't need a constant stream of sex in every story they look at. If you're a writer whose style is very sexual (so your audience expects it), then you might have problems. Otherwise, there's no reason to believe it would make any difference at all.

I don't think every story has to either. But that was the exercise here until the the character balked - hook, action/adventure, sex, cliffhanger. And this story will most likely appeal to a different crowd than my usual wankers do. Thanks for weighing in everyone.

 

[Vermilion]

I don't think every story has to either. But that was the exercise here until the the character balked - hook, action/adventure, sex, cliffhanger. And this story will most likely appeal to a different crowd than my usual wankers do. Thanks for weighing in everyone.

Well... if you're posting each chapter in a different appropriate category then can;t you just put this one in Non erotic... that way noone will be expecting sex anyway. You can then post the sex scene as a stand alone story or work it into a different story...

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V

 

[jomar]

Well... if you're posting each chapter in a different appropriate category then can;t you just put this one in Non erotic... that way noone will be expecting sex anyway. You can then post the sex scene as a stand alone story or work it into a different story...

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V

Yes V, that's where it would have to go. I'm mulling over the separate category vs N/N. That's an interesting thought - posting a sex scene as a stand alone story. Hmm, come to think of it, that pretty much describes most of my other stuff.

 

[Guest]

Novel and Novellas

I can live with stuff in this category not having a lot of sex. But then, I post in it, and nobody reads it
Maharat

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Well... if you're posting each chapter in a different appropriate category then can;t you just put this one in Non erotic... that way noone will be expecting sex anyway. You can then post the sex scene as a stand alone story or work it into a different story...x
V

Nooooooooo! Don't use non-erotic - it's like a health warning that no naughtiness is included.

Also, it would be foolish to go for EC - with or without the 'cutting room floor' sex scene. Without knowing anything about your story, why not just post this chapter in Romance.

The idea of adding an offcuts sex scene seems a way to put off readers.

A well written/plotted story here can take several Lit pages without a sex scene and still get rave reviews. As long as you keep the dramatic tension, you will keep the audience.

 

[MarshAlien]

If you've already posted seven chapters in, say, "Bed-Rattling Sex" (why don't we have that category, anyway?), the readers who have been with you all the way aren't going to care if you suddenly have a sexless chapter 8, and the readers who haven't read 1-7 aren't going to start with 8. So I'd just go ahead and post it where you have the other ones. People who are reading a story that they like aren't going to stop just because you don't include sex in every chapter.

As for the deleted scenes, I'd say don't put them at the end. By the time people go to the end of the sex scene, their comments will be based on that rather than the story, long since concluded, on which you're really interested in getting feedback.

And finally (aren't you glad you asked?), as far as the stand-alone scene goes, it depends on how good it is. I once took the last five chapters of a story that I had shortened before posting and posted them as a separate "Director's Cut," but it actually involved considerably more than just additional sex (like about a year's worth of plot). None of my sex scenes - none - would be any good at all as a stand-alone story. If yours would be, then by all means - a separate story in "Bed-Rattling Sex" is the thing for you.

 

[jomar]

Nooooooooo! Don't use non-erotic - it's like a health warning that no naughtiness is included.

Also, it would be foolish to go for EC - with or without the 'cutting room floor' sex scene. Without knowing anything about your story, why not just post this chapter in Romance.

The idea of adding an offcuts sex scene seems a way to put off readers.

A well written/plotted story here can take several Lit pages without a sex scene and still get rave reviews. As long as you keep the dramatic tension, you will keep the audience.

Romance might fit, but what are the rules there? The hero has sex with three different women, the woman who loves him has sex with another woman, it's a kidnapping/action/adventure with a dollop some alien technology a pharmaceutical company wants to get its hands on. End the end the her does realize he loves her. Sooo, would it fit romance?

 

[MarshAlien]

Romance might fit, but what are the rules there? The hero has sex with three different women, the woman who loves him has sex with another woman, it's a kidnapping/action/adventure with a dollop some alien technology a pharmaceutical company wants to get its hands on. End the end the her does realize he loves her. Sooo, would it fit romance?

Most of the romance I've read hasn't involved pharmaceutical companies and alien technology. Plus, it seems to me that if you suddenly put chapter X in Romance, you risk having the eds. stick it somewhere that you'd really it rather not be. I submitted a story in Romance last week and had it posted today in NonHuman. Not quite the audience I was thinking about (it technically does fit, although to me it's a romance since the guy ends up with -spoiler warning - the girl), but I guess I'll see how it goes. Put it where you've posted the others; if you haven't posted yet, put it where it will find its most natural audience.

I agree with elle; NonErotic should be saved for things that have no erotic content at all, not just no sex.

 

[Tom Collins]

I will write what I want and what the story demands. It's demanding that the sex scene be cut. But since it's written, my question is if it could/should be included after the chapter as a deleted scene to give sex to those who want to read sex? Maybe I'm over thinking it.

If I were you, I'd cut the scene, and leave it out completely, but save it in a .doc and use it in another situation where you do need some nookie. it would be simple enough to adjust it to fit just about anything you needed it for. I've done this before and it works very well.

 

[tickledkitty]

Jomar, I think you should follow your heart and do what you said you wanted to do in the first place. I still think something a little different would be a fun change of pace. If you need a test reader, I gladly volunteer.

 

[jomar]

Most of the romance I've read hasn't involved pharmaceutical companies and alien technology. Plus, it seems to me that if you suddenly put chapter X in Romance, you risk having the eds. stick it somewhere that you'd really it rather not be. I submitted a story in Romance last week and had it posted today in NonHuman. Not quite the audience I was thinking about (it technically does fit, although to me it's a romance since the guy ends up with -spoiler warning - the girl), but I guess I'll see how it goes. Put it where you've posted the others; if you haven't posted yet, put it where it will find its most natural audience.

I agree with elle; NonErotic should be saved for things that have no erotic content at all, not just no sex.

Thanks. I'm waiting until I finish to post any of them, since I night need to make changes. I could also combine chapters, but haven't checked yet - I think the flow would suffer.