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no one messes with Russia
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Radical Islam fears no one...
Not even the Orthodox Catholic Church!
Not even the Orthodox Catholic Church!
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The whole "Allies of Convenience" thing has never worked out well for the junior partner, in this case it's the Ukraine.
Neither Russia nor China have ever shown any hesitation to deal with the Muslims in the harshest way possible and neither give a shit about world opinion. Ukrainian complicity in fostering "jihadism" only provides Russia with further excuses to support military incursions into Ukrainian territory.
What Turkey has to gain here is a little difficult to say. Being a NATO member they are relatively safe from Russian incursions. But that also ties their hands from engaging in incursions of their own. Perhaps their goal is to get Russia to withdraw from Syria? I find that unlikely and a Russia withdrawal from the Crimea is out of the question. Erdogan is at a crossroads, quite literally geographically and politically, and some of his decisions have not exactly been the wisest.
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It is a decision he may need (be forced) to make to stave off further attacks.
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Ditto Israel. They have leaders.
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Iran has, via Hezbollah, 100,000 missiles aimed at Israel's Iron Dome...
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It is a decision he may need (be forced) to make to stave off further attacks.
Short sighted. Does he somehow think he can actually control the jihadists? A lot of those armaments are going to wind up in places he doesn't want them to be.
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We know that he favors their ideology over the Turkish secularism.
We know that he has been aiding and abetting ISIS.
We know that he has let this movement fester.
We know his position is weakening.
Between a rock and a hard place.
A war with Russia might,
"unite the clans..."
... no matter what the outcome. It's why Iran stays focused like a laser on Israel and the US, no?
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We know that he favors their ideology over the Turkish secularism.
We know that he has been aiding and abetting ISIS.
We know that he has let this movement fester.
We know his position is weakening.
Between a rock and a hard place.
A war with Russia might,
"unite the clans..."
... no matter what the outcome. It's why Iran stays focused like a laser on Israel and the US, no?
The ideology is true up to a point. But I'm not so certain he, as an individual, has embraced it. Or is more like Saddam. It is in his political best interests to do so.
As far as ISIS is concerned, his 'aiding and abetting' has taken place because he see's the Kurd's as a bigger threat. And in attacking the Kurd's he aids ISIS. So that aid is not by design, but by default.
From a purely pragmatic standpoint it seems to me that making overtures to the Kurd's re. the establishment of a Kurdish homeland along the Turkish/Iraqi/Syrian border (with the largest chunk out of Iraq and Syria of course) would work much more in his favor. It, at least temporarily while the talks are in progress, gets the Kurd's off his back. And if successful it establishes a buffer zone between himself and whacko's to the South.
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The Kurdish problem isn't going to go away until the Kurds have kicked everyone else's asses and taken their homeland by force. Sending an Islamic invasion into Crimea serves more than one purpose, it keeps the right sort of people focused on something other than Turkey, and if Russia kills them all off, so much the better for it...
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I have to say:
Busybody's huge, ridic. siggy just beneath your initial post totally eclipsed you.
