Words and Phrases to Kill: a writing thread

Rumple Foreskin

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St. Patrick's Day Greetings,

While looking for something else I came across a free, writing site called TAMERI http://www.tameri.com/index.html There’s nothing new, but the information was well-organized and I like their lists, so I’m passing along the link and posting one section.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:

Words and Phrases to Kill

When editing a manuscript, some words deserve to die — not always, but usually. (If you miss the humor of the last sentence, you won’t after reading this document.) The words and phrases below are among those most often abused.
· any infinitive (to walk)
· about
· all
· almost
· always
· anxiously
· eagerly
· every
· finally
· frequently
· just
· merely
· nearly
· need
· never
· not
· often
· only
· so
· that
· “the public”
· then
· very

Adverbs
When used as modifiers of verbs, adverbs are ambiguous. If “he quickly ran,” then just how fast did he run? Adverbs do not answer to what degree or extent, despite what grammarians might say.

Adverbs of time are overused. Writers litter manuscripts with words such as “finally” and “then” because people do so in speech.

“Not” and other adverbs of manner are easy for writers; better words or phrases can be found in most cases.

very - While “very” is intended to magnify a verb, adverb, or noun, it lacks precision. “Very” is seldom essential.

not - “Not” is an adverb meaning “in no manner” or “to no degree.” We discourage writers from using “not” and negative words formed using the prefixes “ir-” and “un-” when possible.

never / always - Absolutes either lock a writer into a position or give the appearance of conceit.

often / frequently - Individuals have unique opinions of what constitutes frequently or often. Such measures of time are matters of perspective.

almost / nearly - Approximations should be used sparingly. Use “almost” or “nearly” when a precise measurement is unrealistic in fiction or impossible.

anxiously / eagerly - “Anxiously” implies with anxiety and “eagerly” implies with anticipation. Both are weak adverbs that can be replaced by better describing a situation.

She waited anxiously.

She sat waiting, biting her lip and looking around the room.

only / merely - Condescending when used to describe a noun.

Weak Links
finally - When describing a series of events, the word “finally” indicates laziness on the part of the writer. “Finally” implies an exhaustion or distaste for the series.

then / next - When recounting events, “then” and “next” are weak transitions. Try eliminating “then” with specific references to time, location, or list characteristics.

As we drove down Main Street, we first saw Smallville Hardware. Then, across the street was Ma’s Kettle, a popular restaurant. Next, we saw a bar, the post office, and a barbershop. Finally we reached City Hall.

As we drove down Main Street, we first saw Smallville Hardware. Across the street was Ma's Kettle, a popular restaurant. Passing the next block, we saw a bar, the post office, and a barbershop. City Hall greeted us at the end of the street.

Adjectives
Writers must remember that adjectives are relative to a reader’s experiences. Describing a character as tall without specifying a height allows every reader to imagine a different measurement. Some writers prefer to allow audiences a lot of freedom, but doing so can be dangerous.

amazing / wonderful / etc - Avoid overstating how special a person, thing, or event is. Romance novels, in particular, overuse these words.

big / small, short / tall - Remember each reader has a unique perspective from which he or she views other people. Give precise descriptions of characters when possible.

all / every - “All” and “every” imply absolute quantities.

perfect - Nothing real is perfect.

Nouns
the public - The public seldom thinks or acts as a single unit.
need - There are few needs, but wants and desires are plentiful.

Prepositions
about - (adv) Use the phrase “went around” or a similar phrase that more clearly indicates a sense of direction. (prep) When used colloquially in the phrases “how about,” “what about,” and “not about to,” kill the phrase.
 
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Rumple

I've taken the liberty of copying this onto the 'Do it Yourself Editing' thread. I know Lou has bookmarked that thread for including in the AH archieve - this post of your should be with it.
 
Good thread, Rumple. Some of these I knew; others spurred new thoughts and awareness. The comments on "amazing/wonderful," "very," and "always/never" struck me as particularly useful; those are very common problems.

Shanglan
 
neonlyte said:
Rumple

I've taken the liberty of copying this onto the 'Do it Yourself Editing' thread. I know Lou has bookmarked that thread for including in the AH archieve - this post of your should be with it.
Good move, Neon, one of those "Why didn't I think of that?" ideas.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
I protest. I'm in a terribly pissy mood and I fucking protest.

A word is nothing without its context, and these lists are giving a terribly simplistic and formulaic idea of what editing is about. It's more than a matter of doing word searches and eliminating every instance of "finally" or "often" or excising all adverbs. This makes writing seem like its nothing more than a matter of word choices. Eliminate the bad words, and voila! Brilliant prose. Bullshit.

If I want to say, "He kissed her eagerly, anxiously; almost overcome with need." then that's what I'm going to say. If I want to say that "She often appeared confused," I don't see anything wrong with it. I don't see where it makes my prose unreadable. Is it any better if I say "On many occasions..."?

There's something dangerously naive and paint-by-numbers about these lists and about our obsession with them. They can be helpful, but I don't like this obsession with the trees at the expense of the forest.

That's all. As I said, very pissy mood. Or how would I say that without using the word very?
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I protest. I'm in a terribly pissy mood and I fucking protest.

A word is nothing without its context, and these lists are giving a terribly simplistic and formulaic idea of what editing is about. It's more than a matter of doing word searches and eliminating every instance of "finally" or "often" or excising all adverbs. This makes writing seem like its nothing more than a matter of word choices. Eliminate the bad words, and voila! Brilliant prose. Bullshit.

If I want to say, "He kissed her eagerly, anxiously; almost overcome with need." then that's what I'm going to say. If I want to say that "She often appeared confused," I don't see anything wrong with it. I don't see where it makes my prose unreadable. Is it any better if I say "On many occasions..."?

There's something dangerously naive and paint-by-numbers about these lists and about our obsession with them. They can be helpful, but I don't like this obsession with the trees at the expense of the forest.

That's all. As I said, very pissy mood. Or how would I say that without using the word very?

I love the good Doctor :D

Actually, I do agree that there is more to editing than a list of words to avoid, and he's absolutely right - every word has its proper time and place.

If one might humbly venture - without getting one's horsey head bitten off? - one might suggest that the list indicates words very frequently used - look! a "very"! - out of their proper context. I recognize, for example, that "amazing" can be a perfectly good word. But far too often I see it used when a concrete description is needed - one of those "It was the most amazing blowjob he'd ever had" sections where no physical or active detail lets me know anything about it or why it is, in fact, amazing.

So I think the list good - but Dr. M's advice on how to use it also good. It's not a stone-graven list of "thou shalt nots"; it should be treated more as a list of "if you have this, check to make sure you really need it."

I'm not in an especially pissy mood, and hope not to have exacerbated anyone else's ;) -

Shanglan
 
BlackShanglan said:
I love the good Doctor :D

Actually, I do agree that there is more to editing than a list of words to avoid, and he's absolutely right - every word has its proper time and place.

If one might humbly venture - without getting one's horsey head bitten off? - one might suggest that the list indicates words very frequently used - look! a "very"! - out of their proper context. I recognize, for example, that "amazing" can be a perfectly good word. But far too often I see it used when a concrete description is needed - one of those "It was the most amazing blowjob he'd ever had" sections where no physical or active detail lets me know anything about it or why it is, in fact, amazing.

So I think the list good - but Dr. M's advice on how to use it also good. It's not a stone-graven list of "thou shalt nots"; it should be treated more as a list of "if you have this, check to make sure you really need it."

I'm not in an especially pissy mood, and hope not to have exacerbated anyone else's ;) -

Shanglan

I'm just glad "the" isn't on the list.
 
Sub Joe said:
I'm just glad "the" isn't on the list.


I actually had a mentor once hand me a 90-page MS and tell me to go through it and circle every use of the verb "to be." That was his subtle little way of letting me know that I had a problem with passive voice.

Shanglan
 
BlackShanglan said:
I actually had a mentor once hand me a 90-page MS and tell me to go through it and circle every use of the verb "to be." That was his subtle little way of letting me know that I had a problem with passive voice.

Shanglan

You should have told him "Why don't you get fucked up the arse in the passive voice."
 
Sorry. I just had the plumber hand me an estimate for fixing the leaky shut-off valve for the house. The village says I have to get it fixed. It's going to cost me $1900.

I almost had a heart attack and nearly hit the roof.

It was not amazing and not wonderful.

I'm finally fucked.

---Zoot
 
dr_mabeuse said:
Sorry. I just had the plumber hand me an estimate for fixing the leaky shut-off valve for the house. The village says I have to get it fixed. It's going to cost me $1900.

I almost had a heart attack and nearly hit the roof.

It was not amazing and not wonderful.

I'm finally fucked.

---Zoot

Wow. Sorry too. Fucking money.
 
Sub Joe said:
You should have told him "Why don't you get fucked up the arse in the passive voice."


I would have, but then I would have had to admit wanting to do the actual fucking. He was getting on there, and I'm not sure the old boy would have survived it. Bless him, he was a great one.
 
dr_mabeuse said:
Sorry. I just had the plumber hand me an estimate for fixing the leaky shut-off valve for the house. The village says I have to get it fixed. It's going to cost me $1900.

I almost had a heart attack and nearly hit the roof.

It was not amazing and not wonderful.

I'm finally fucked.

---Zoot

Zoot, that is awful news. Did you try ... what was it you used the other time? Caroline's list or something?

Just hoping someone out there might say "nah, this is $300 ..."

Shanglan
 
BlackShanglan said:
I would have, but then I would have had to admit wanting to do the actual fucking. He was getting on there, and I'm not sure the old boy would have survived it. Bless him, he was a great one.

You could have made him posthumously great.
 
Sub Joe said:
You could have made him posthumously great.

True, but not currently one of my fetishes. Still prefer 'em warm and breathing.

(I know ... picky, picky.)
 
dr_mabeuse said:
Sorry. I just had the plumber hand me an estimate for fixing the leaky shut-off valve for the house. The village says I have to get it fixed. It's going to cost me $1900.

I almost had a heart attack and nearly hit the roof.

It was not amazing and not wonderful.

I'm finally fucked.

---Zoot

Ouch! I think a plumber from here would fly out and do it for half that! The entire new plumbing and waste system for my refurb is only 1600 US$. Get another estimate.
 
If you must spend $1900 zoot, do it the good way, try mending it yourself for probably about $20. If that doesn't work then it is probably worth 1900 to get it fixed.


Ok, what's the deal with passive voice, I have no idea what that is or why it's bad.



I couldn't possibly edit a work where I had to remember more words not to use than were in the whole story.
 
Passive voice involves rewording a sentence to put the object rather than the subject at the beginning, making use of the verb "to be."

Examples:

Active voice: "Lightning struck the tree."

Passive voice: "The tree was struck by lightning."

Active voice: "The car hit the telephone pole."

Passive voice: "The telephone pole was hit by the car."

There are times when passive voice is appropriate - when the object, rather than the subject, is the most interesting part of the sentence and the one to which one wishes to direct attention. However, over-use of passive voice is (1) wordier, because you add in "to be" and (2) More passive, because the actor of the sentence is pushed back behind the recipient. Try writing a whole paragraph that way and you'll see the effect.

I think passive voice, like most of the things on the list, is a device that has a time and place. However, too much of it is awkward reading. When it's used well it can add emphasis to the phrase and shift the reader's perception to the right point - but like anything used for emphasis, over-use dulls its force and eventually destroys its effect.

Shanglan
 
Gauche,

I was writing this while Shanglan was posting his excellent reply. Mine takes a slightly different approach, so to continue with the entertainment, here’s a little more down and dirty on passive and active voice.

In sentences written in active voice, the subject performs the action expressed in the verb; the subject acts.

ex:
Gauche fucked the supermodel.
The chef is preparing the food.
The producer was making an announcement
You can use the computer

In sentences written in passive voice, the subject receives the action expressed in the verb; the subject is acted upon.

ex:
Gauche was fucked by the supermodel.
The food is being prepared.
An announcement was being made.
The computer can be used.

You can recognize passive-voice expressions because the verb phrase will always include a form of be, such as am, is, was, were, are, or been. The presence of a be-verb, however, does not necessarily mean that the sentence is in passive voice.

Passive is commonly used in scholarly non-fiction. In fiction, however, it tends to make the prose seem flat and uninteresting. Although its limited use can sometimes be effective, most fiction writing “experts” believe the less passive voice, the better.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
And Rumple makes excellent points on the topic of sentences that have no object, only a subject - but nonetheless are in passive voice. Thanks for the expansion, Rumple.

(P.S. - I still have your sharpei dog AV picture on my hard drive.)

Shanglan
 
BlackShanglan said:
(P.S. - I still have your sharpei dog AV picture on my hard drive.)

Shanglan
That knocked-out shrapei is a real inspiration. It's one of the two dogs I have stored. I've keep the sharpei because it always makes me smile. The other dog is there due to what many claim to be a strong family resemblence.



http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-12/909970/buck-blk-h.jpg

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
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None the wiser is the state in which I am. Thanks are heartily offered to the two of you anyway.
 
Apologies for being obtuse, but I promise that for the right person, I'm not impenetrable ;)

Shanglan
 
gauchecritic said:
None the wiser is the state in which I am. Thanks are heartily offered to the two of you anyway.
Gauche, if all else fails, you could fall back on my method of determining whether something is passive or active: I run it through my MS Word STYLE & GRAMMAR checker. It does a surprisingly good job of finding dem passive little bastards. Of course, then it's up whether to give 'em the thumbs up and let well enough alone or the old thumbs down and try a rewrite.

Rumple Foreskin :cool:
 
Nice to see a writing thread. I got a lot to learn.

Dr. M... By the price, you're describing replacing a curb cock (don't laugh). Two guys over two days seems twice the norm but there may be unusual circumstances. Digging down 4 feet and shutting down the entire complex can be problems. Quotes are usually higher than time and material, expecting things to go wrong but if things go really bad, you're protected. Chances are you have to use the plumbers for the complex.
 
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