Women who enjoy strip clubs

[MrMikelobe1952]

As a long-time voyeur, as well as a closet exhibitionist, I visit strip clubs from time to time. (Outlets for male voyeurs seem to be ez to find. The exhibitionist side is much more difficult to find outlets for but, that is beside the point of this thread.)

It has been my observation that it is becoming more common for women to visit strip clubs. (I am referring to the type where the strippers are female, in case that was not obvious). I always find myself to be more turned on by the women patrons, trying to imagine their reactions, than I am by the performers.

It seems to me that there are several reasons why women visit these clubs. I see small mixed groups of young men and women who seem to be there as a sort of a lark, just to see something different. There are couples who attend to get stimulation for the male member (pun intended) which presumably leads to excitement for the couple after they leave. In this category, I have observed women rubbing the crotches of their male companion while the male enjoys a dancer's performance. Their are couples in which both parties seem to be turned on by the performers. Finally, there are women who attend just to obtain stimulation for themselves. In this category, I have seen women who have the courage to go to a strip club alone to watch the dancers. I admire that self-confidence that a woman must have to do that.

Anyway, I am writing all this becaues I would like to hear from women (or couples) who have attended strip clubs to watch female strippers, or from women who fantasize about doing so. Any comments about your reasons and reactions would be appreciated.

Mike

 

[sweetdaddyc]

This could be interesting

I have experienced many womwen in the local toronto clubs
They have even been time i have witnessed a woman take a dancer for a VIP private dance
I would love to have had the opportunity to watch that

 

[babydoll2u]

As a long-time voyeur, as well as a closet exhibitionist, I visit strip clubs from time to time. (Outlets for male voyeurs seem to be ez to find. The exhibitionist side is much more difficult to find outlets for but, that is beside the point of this thread.)

It has been my observation that it is becoming more common for women to visit strip clubs. (I am referring to the type where the strippers are female, in case that was not obvious). I always find myself to be more turned on by the women patrons, trying to imagine their reactions, than I am by the performers.

It seems to me that there are several reasons why women visit these clubs. I see small mixed groups of young men and women who seem to be there as a sort of a lark, just to see something different. There are couples who attend to get stimulation for the male member (pun intended) which presumably leads to excitement for the couple after they leave. In this category, I have observed women rubbing the crotches of their male companion while the male enjoys a dancer's performance. Their are couples in which both parties seem to be turned on by the performers. Finally, there are women who attend just to obtain stimulation for themselves. In this category, I have seen women who have the courage to go to a strip club alone to watch the dancers. I admire that self-confidence that a woman must have to do that.

Anyway, I am writing all this becaues I would like to hear from women (or couples) who have attended strip clubs to watch female strippers, or from women who fantasize about doing so. Any comments about your reasons and reactions would be appreciated.

Mike

now that is just not something I could ever see myself doing... being a stripper. I've never been to a strip club either... not sure I'd want to.

Peggy

 

[Diasx]

The clubs here in town dont allow a female in by herself, unless she is a "friend" of an employee. They do allow females that come in groups or with men.

Not sure the reasoning for it, but it could be for the female's protection....solo female + horny men can equal bad news.

 

[Derya]

I Like the attention

I've gone to strip clubs with male friends and with someone I'm involved with on a few occasions. On those occasions I have seen a few other females in the club as patrons and a few on their own (no men) and yes have seen one or two hire private dancing. Just for the record (and maybe all places are different) I recently on a visit to a strip club with a guy I'm seeing...joined him during a private dance...big ole wast of money in my opinion, but of course I can look in a mirror and see all that's being seen LOL.

I have gone because the party or parties I'm with want to go...its entertainment of sorts and as the female its always been free for me so no big deal there . What I do really like is watching how my partner is intrigued and by whom. Noticing who and what turns him on, interests him etc. Plus I love the attention I get, because obviously its not a common thing per se for a gal to go to a strip club with her guy so I get lots of interest, attention, and praise from other groups of guys in the place. Plus it seems all men are soooo turned on by that girl on girl thing, so its fun to play that up some and watch reactions.

Going to a strip club isn't something I'd want to do every weekend or anything, but I personally am not a part of that faction of women who are like "my guy isn't going to any strip club; why does he need to go there" hell I say go if you want and if I feel like I'll go with you sometimes.

 

[Raine82]

I have been to two strip clubs... one Deja Vu when a close girl friend of mine worked there and one which was actually a brothel in the Caribbean. As for the Deja Vu, it was actually not run-down and depressing as I thought it would. and I had a great time seeing my friend express herself and her sexuality, something I would have loved to do but was too afraid someone I knew would be there. It was an interesting dynamic seeing the men there. I did feel bad for them, though... what a racket... they have to pay to be aroused and then there's nobody to take care of them!
as for the one in the caribbean, my friend's boyfriend there bought me a lapdance by the MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN i have seen in a long time. she was soooo incredibly hot. seeing a sexy woman always makes me feel sexy myself. anyways just my 2 cents.

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

Re: I Like the attention

I've gone to strip clubs with male friends and with someone I'm involved with on a few occasions. On those occasions I have seen a few other females in the club as patrons and a few on their own (no men) and yes have seen one or two hire private dancing. Just for the record (and maybe all places are different) I recently on a visit to a strip club with a guy I'm seeing...joined him during a private dance...big ole wast of money in my opinion, but of course I can look in a mirror and see all that's being seen LOL.

I have gone because the party or parties I'm with want to go...its entertainment of sorts and as the female its always been free for me so no big deal there . What I do really like is watching how my partner is intrigued and by whom. Noticing who and what turns him on, interests him etc. Plus I love the attention I get, because obviously its not a common thing per se for a gal to go to a strip club with her guy so I get lots of interest, attention, and praise from other groups of guys in the place. Plus it seems all men are soooo turned on by that girl on girl thing, so its fun to play that up some and watch reactions.

Going to a strip club isn't something I'd want to do every weekend or anything, but I personally am not a part of that faction of women who are like "my guy isn't going to any strip club; why does he need to go there" hell I say go if you want and if I feel like I'll go with you sometimes.

Derya, thank you for a thoughtful response.
When you say that you are not all that interested in the sight of the women, is that because you are not turned on by women, or because the visuals are not a turnon for you. Whie it is true that you have all of the parts that the dancers have, each woman looks different. Part of the turn-on for me is seeing all of the different shapes and sizes of the women and their naughty bits. Plus, of course, the way they move.
As for the private dance, I gather that, in the club you were describing, the patrons can only look. There is no contact allowed?
Would you feel different watching or joining if the dancer was rubbbing herself against your man's privates?
Mike

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

I have been to two strip clubs... one Deja Vu when a close girl friend of mine worked there and one which was actually a brothel in the Caribbean. As for the Deja Vu, it was actually not run-down and depressing as I thought it would. and I had a great time seeing my friend express herself and her sexuality, something I would have loved to do but was too afraid someone I knew would be there. It was an interesting dynamic seeing the men there. I did feel bad for them, though... what a racket... they have to pay to be aroused and then there's nobody to take care of them!
as for the one in the caribbean, my friend's boyfriend there bought me a lapdance by the MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMAN i have seen in a long time. she was soooo incredibly hot. seeing a sexy woman always makes me feel sexy myself. anyways just my 2 cents.

Thank you for your response.
I can say, without being specific, that there are clubs where the lap dances do not necessarily leave the customers feeling frustrated.
Did the lap dance leave you aroused or feeling frustrated?

 

[Derya]

Re: Re: I Like the attention

Derya, thank you for a thoughtful response.
When you say that you are not all that interested in the sight of the women, is that because you are not turned on by women, or because the visuals are not a turnon for you. Whie it is true that you have all of the parts that the dancers have, each woman looks different. Part of the turn-on for me is seeing all of the different shapes and sizes of the women and their naughty bits. Plus, of course, the way they move.
As for the private dance, I gather that, in the club you were describing, the patrons can only look. There is no contact allowed?
Would you feel different watching or joining if the dancer was rubbbing herself against your man's privates?
Mike

To answer a bit....

right no contact allowed and a bouncer person was in the room too at the other end (FYI this was The Derriere Gentleman's Club in Myrtle Beach SC)... yes if there were more touching on the part of my guy and a dancer I think I'd find it arousing but then too I might get somewhat jealous or irritated it if was much of it

I enjoy the entertainment and pleasantness (that is if the girls are attractive and the place isn't a dive or trashy) of the looks of the women as you mention, their outfits (before stripping) and their dancing ability....find all that entertaining, or interesting, but not stimulating...again for me I'm more excited by my action of being there and the reaction it solicits from the guy I'm with and others .....I find that more arousing

Probably comes into play too...my personalilty I love to dance, enjoy the spotlight and performing per se; like being the center of attention (in a good way not a spoiled way) so I probably would be more apt to be turned on by fantasizing about being the dancer than byt watching the dancer...if that makes any sense

 

[Saytre]

My wife and I occasionally go out to strip clubs together.

She's as straight as an arrow, but still likes to watch the girls dance erotically. She'll watch me get lap dances and sometimes she'll join in.

The dancers where we go will allow touching and other latitude if you're familiar to them, or for repeat dances.

Yeah, we get all fired up for later for sure!

Sometimes we go double-dating with other couples and the strip club makes a great icebreaker.

S

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

Re: Re: Re: I Like the attention

To answer a bit....

right no contact allowed and a bouncer person was in the room too at the other end (FYI this was The Derriere Gentleman's Club in Myrtle Beach SC)... yes if there were more touching on the part of my guy and a dancer I think I'd find it arousing but then too I might get somewhat jealous or irritated it if was much of it

I enjoy the entertainment and pleasantness (that is if the girls are attractive and the place isn't a dive or trashy) of the looks of the women as you mention, their outfits (before stripping) and their dancing ability....find all that entertaining, or interesting, but not stimulating...again for me I'm more excited by my action of being there and the reaction it solicits from the guy I'm with and others .....I find that more arousing

Probably comes into play too...my personalilty I love to dance, enjoy the spotlight and performing per se; like being the center of attention (in a good way not a spoiled way) so I probably would be more apt to be turned on by fantasizing about being the dancer than byt watching the dancer...if that makes any sense

Thank you again.
So, when you are there w/ your guy, do you use your hand to determine what kind of "reaction" the performance is getting from your guy?
I also was interested in how you feel about the reaction of the male customers to your presence. Do you like getting attention from them?
Would it be rude for them to ask you about your reaction to the show?

mike

 

[RavenousRae]

I've never been to a strip club. I've asked my boyfriend if we could go together sometime but he nevers seems like he wants to take the initiative. I know he goes to them, or did in the past, but I would love to go - just to experience it . . . For some guys it seems like a turn on when their significant others want to join them and when I first mentioned it to my boyfriend he seemed excited but I think once he realized that I actually really wanted to go he seemed a little put off by it. I'll have to convince one of my other male friends to take me sometime!

 

[AureliusEight]

If you need an excort, Rae, let me know. I don't frequent strip clubs that often but have lived in the area long enough to know which are good and which are otherwise. If you do go with someone, I would recommend that you avoid Virginia and go in DC.

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

I've never been to a strip club. I've asked my boyfriend if we could go together sometime but he nevers seems like he wants to take the initiative. I know he goes to them, or did in the past, but I would love to go - just to experience it . . . For some guys it seems like a turn on when their significant others want to join them and when I first mentioned it to my boyfriend he seemed excited but I think once he realized that I actually really wanted to go he seemed a little put off by it. I'll have to convince one of my other male friends to take me sometime!

Rae, your boyfriend's reaction is very interesting.
At the risk of engaging in excessive psychological speculatoin about a situation I no very little about:
it sounds like your boyfriend's attitudes are still shaped by aspects of the old double standard. This is not to condemn him, as we all have attitudes shaped by society's expectations. But
I would guess that, in his mind, there is still some distinction between the "good girl" (which would include you) and the "slut" or the "wild women" represented by the strippers that he enjoys (Not to suggest that strippers are sluts, but this is just the way the customers are likely to think of them.
I don't know how inhibited or uninhibited your sex lives may be, but I am guessing that, in his imagination, there are wild things that he could do with you if you were not a "good girl."
When you suggested a willingness to go to a strip club, his first reaction was excitement. You were willing to be more "wild" and his fantasies were about to come true.
But, then the significance starts to sink in. If you go to a strip club, will you still be the "good girl" that part of him wants you to be. He becomes ambivalent, and is afraid of the idea.
Obviosuly, the archtype of the good girl has changed a lot since she was a virgin, but I think it still affects our thinking.
Anyway, if you decide to go w/ another guy, and he knows about it, then his conflicts about you going with him will become much worse. You can then expect either a big fight, or a breakup.

Pretty arrogant of me to engage in all this speculation based on so little information, but it was fun to do so.

MIke

 

[Derya]

Re: Re: Re: Re: I Like the attention

Thank you again.
So, when you are there w/ your guy, do you use your hand to determine what kind of "reaction" the performance is getting from your guy?
I also was interested in how you feel about the reaction of the male customers to your presence. Do you like getting attention from them?
Would it be rude for them to ask you about your reaction to the show?

mike

No don't really touch him to find out, we talk about it and about the girls what he thinks and I watch how he looks at them, what he says when talking to them, discuss what we're thinking. Actually with recent guy I've gone with who've I've been seeing he is the one doing more touching while there with me than I to him.

Yes I like attention from the male customers and no I wouldn't find it rude for someone to ask me what I think or my reaction. However I guess it might bother some women...I am a very open, confident, assertive person so it wouldn't bother me and if something said or done did disturb me I am totally comfortable saying so.

 

[PeachedCream]

I've actually gone on first dates to a strip club. I managed to get better lap dances than my dates.

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I Like the attention

No don't really touch him to find out, we talk about it and about the girls what he thinks and I watch how he looks at them, what he says when talking to them, discuss what we're thinking. Actually with recent guy I've gone with who've I've been seeing he is the one doing more touching while there with me than I to him.

I suppose the fact that he likes to put his hands on you when you are at teh strip clubs, to have him caress your body as he becomes aroused, must be part of the enjoyment for you.
Still, I'd think it would be fun for both of you for you to yous your hands to determine how he is responding to the show.

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

I've actually gone on first dates to a strip club. I managed to get better lap dances than my dates.

Thanks for weighing in on my thread/
Yours on phone sex has long been one of my favorites.
You sound like a fun person to date.
Its a quick way to find out how confident the guy is, too.



Mike

 

[zukethecuke]

East Side

Missouri law prohibits topless dancing in any establishment with a liquor license, so all Saint Louis strip clubs are on the East (Illinois) Side. There, full nudity is permitted for dancers by themselves, and contact (lap dancing) if they've got a g-string on. Guys aren't supposed to touch the dancers' breasts, but how strictly that's enforced depends on the club, the bouncer, the size of the crowd, and whether or not the State's Attorney is up for re-election.

Generally, women who are not employees are allowed in if with a guy. The concern there is that single women wandering in will be hookers offering to relieve a little tension out in the parking lot. Once in a while, a woman who's a friend or roommate of one of the dancers will turn up; this works to everyone's advantage, since it provides someone to chat up customers and ask them to buy drinks, without adding to payroll and without risking a prostitution arrest in the parking lot. Sometimes they've turned up to give a dancer a ride home at the end of her shift. I like the friends of dancers best, since they aren't being paid to be there. Next best is talking to the dancers during the middle of the afternoon, when there are almost no other customers around and the pressure is off.

A woman friend of mine did turn up at a topless bar once; her husband was a regular and she wanted to see what it was he found so exciting. She wasn't real impressed generally, but she works in an electronics store and wound up talking to the dj about the sound system!

 

[PeachedCream]

I went to a strip club (where the strippers were male) and have come to the conclusion that female strippers are just plain hotter. Of course, this has to do with the fact that the female anatomy is so much more better than a male's. It's a shame that women aren't allowed into strip joints by themselves and i've yet to meet a guy who'll want to go with me without hoping i'll give him some "relief" later on that night.

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

I went to a strip club (where the strippers were male) and have come to the conclusion that female strippers are just plain hotter. Of course, this has to do with the fact that the female anatomy is so much more better than a male's. It's a shame that women aren't allowed into strip joints by themselves and i've yet to meet a guy who'll want to go with me without hoping i'll give him some "relief" later on that night.

Up here in the Northeast, there don't seem to be any rules against women entering the clubs on their own. Its rare, I think becuz most women would feel self-conscious, but I've seen it.
I would be glad to escort you to such a club. Of course, if you wanted to offer relief, I'd probably want it, but I would not insist.
As for the question of anatomy
well
I don't think its even a question, but I only bat from one side of the plate.

 

[Mskey]

It's an interesting question and being as I'v done my time in a strip club or two- as a bartender/waitress not a dancer- I feel like I can weigh in.

My husband personally has never much cared for them. He doesn't hold much with the idea that he should pay for what he nine times out of ten can see on the bar of any college nightclub. I've gone a few times with several male friends of mine to see a mutual friend dance and I was always amused by the OMG stares I'd get when I walked into the places. It was almost as if I were a figment of their imaginations. It was at one of these clubs that I got my gig as a bartender. My friend asked a guy to buy here a drink and he told her he'd buy her the most expensive bottle in the house if she'd have me bring it to his table and sit with her. SOLD AMERICAN!
The women there more often then not don't like having another woman there just to watch for a few reasons. #1 why would a guy pay to watch a dancer when he can chat up the other woman for free. #2 part of the sales pitch is making the guy think there might be a snowballs chance in hell he could go home with a dancer if he drops enough $$. That pitch is lost if there's a woman there that doesn't expect pay for play.#3 the clubs don't want women there unescorted because lets be honest a guy can only be teased for so long and a woman alone makes an easy target. Also as has been stated before it's nothiong for a prostitute to come in and offer to relieve some of the tension out back and then the club gets levied with a soliciting charge. With just men there the bouncers can control the club better, but add a woman to the mix and it becomes harder to keep things in check.
Now if a woman is there with her partner to enjoy the experience as well or to get titliated on her won it can be a dancers dream. The whole girl on girl aspect is so prevelant a fantasy that if a dancer can find a woman who will participate she can make great money. If a dancer gives every guy in the bar a lap dance big shit, but if every guy in that bar watches her get a woman off they'll be up by the tip bar in a flash trying to get her attention. My friend always said she made better money on the nights my friends and I came in because they'd see her dance for me and she'd be booked all night.
Part of the reason I quit working the clubs however is also the reason I don't really like going to them anymore.While alot of the men who were regulars were really just sweet lonely guys looking for a little companionship I couldn't help but feel like I was helping prostitute the girls out to them in some way. Also,inevitably there will come a request for a woman there to "perform" if they see her enough. For me I never had any real thought to perform that way and I got tired of the constant, " How much to get you up there babygirl?" requests. I liked the attention, but I didn't enjoy being objectified, and so even though the $$ was great- even as a bartender I could bring home a couple hundred bucks working two nights a week provided I didn't mind tending bar in my bra and heels!...lol!-I quit going.

Now that I'm a bit older I'm starting to agree with my husbands take on them strip bars. Go into any nightclub and you can see the same dancing and outfits, just less nudity, and those girls you might actually have a shot at going home with.

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

Thank you MsKey

I appreciate your interesting point of view.
I do understand that the strip club environment is designed to create an illusion. I think it is the illusion that I enjoy which is not present in the college night clubs.
In addition, as you point out, to the greater nudity, a good dancer can produce those moments where she creates the illusion in the mind of the customer that she is performing just for him. I know its fake, yet I can enjoy it.
In a college nightclub, at least as a 52 y.o. man, I know its unlikely any young woman will pretend that I am her audience. In addition, as a married man, I am only seeking the illusion and not the reality of an outside relationship. (As is the case in my play on these boards. Just an illusion)

I have had some different experiences with women in the clubs. I can recall one club, in particular, here in the Northeast, that was often patronized by a single woman. At the risk of being accused of stereotyping, it seemed quite apparant that she was not interested in the male patrons. She dressed in a way that emphasized her somewhat square build, and she did not wear anything provacative. The dancers seemed to enjoy performing for her: perhaps for the reason you suggest - the men get turned on by it. It is true that, even though I did not find her to be particularly enticing, I found the idea of her with one of the dancers to be arousing.

Finally, I have been in other strip clubs where groups of well dressed women would attend and watch together. I did not assume that they were there to solicit. These were so-called "upscale" clubs.

As for hte isue of "objectivfication," that is obviously a lot of what goes on. Is it demeaning to the dancers to be objectified in that fashoin. Clearly, they don't think so. They objectify the men, of course, so it may not be healthy for relations between the sexes. But I'm not convinced that its demeaning to the dancers. It may be more demeaniing to us customers.

Mike

 

[zukethecuke]

Re: Thank you MsKey

As for hte isue of "objectivfication," that is obviously a lot of what goes on. Is it demeaning to the dancers to be objectified in that fashoin. Clearly, they don't think so. They objectify the men, of course, so it may not be healthy for relations between the sexes. But I'm not convinced that its demeaning to the dancers. It may be more demeaniing to us customers.

As an ex-waiter in a definitely non-sexy 'checkered tablecloth' restaurant I can assure you that the objectification of service employees -- and customers -- happens all the time. ("Hey, Tony! You got four buffaloes in the corner booth!")

 

[MrMikelobe1952]

Re: Re: Thank you MsKey

As an ex-waiter in a definitely non-sexy 'checkered tablecloth' restaurant I can assure you that the objectification of service employees -- and customers -- happens all the time. ("Hey, Tony! You got four buffaloes in the corner booth!")

That's a very good point.
If you thnk its bad for restaurant workers
think about janitors.
Many people dont' even see them.
But this seems to be off the point of women going into strip clubs.
Can't get yelled at for this, tho.
Its my thread.