Women - what if your SO came on your face while you were sleep?

[andystx]

Depends.

Did you discuss how she felt about letting you come on her body?

Did you do it in a mean-spirited way, such as, 'Well, that bitch won't wake up, I'm just going to let myself come and worry about it later'?

Why didn't you tell her about it the next day?

Note the definitions of assault, and the definitions of violence. The important question is this: would SHE consider it assault? Or violence?

S.

My lord will this insanity never end?

 

[Nightbird]

You know Mc Groin I'm curious about something. Do you pay Andy to be your butt blasting buddy or is he just an Alt for you?
Are you really this clue less and offensive in real life or do you just enjoy being a closet moron on parade?
As far as trying to pick up I'm gonna make it simple for you as you seem to one of those only abortion that lived a little slow to figure things out dropped on your head too many times types.
I have more class, more romance, more soul than you will ever hope to have. If I wanted to "pick up" and use a woman for sex like you do I would have to totally rewire my brain and take out a large portion of it to make me stupid like you.
Do all of us a favour you waste of good Oxygen and go buy yourself a blow up doll the perfect lover for you.

 

[andystx]

You know Mc Groin I'm curious about something. Do you pay Andy to be your butt blasting buddy or is he just an Alt for you?
Are you really this clue less and offensive in real life or do you just enjoy being a closet moron on parade?
As far as trying to pick up I'm gonna make it simple for you as you seem to one of those only abortion that lived a little slow to figure things out dropped on your head too many times types.
I have more class, more romance, more soul than you will ever hope to have. If I wanted to "pick up" and use a woman for sex like you do I would have to totally rewire my brain and take out a large portion of it to make me stupid like you.
Do all of us a favour you waste of good Oxygen and go buy yourself a blow up doll the perfect lover for you.

I have purposely avoided responding to your garbled posts up until now as I have discerned that you must have enough problems to deal with of your very very own. While I applaud people around the world trying to learn english as a second language, it is sometimes a shame that their keyboard stills work on english language sites. Your posts lend validation to that idea.
I will endeavor to respond to your gibberish with some clear language though, without, as I have been thus far able to avoid, diving into the name calling, personality-trashing, pop pschology, grammer school ethic to which this thread has devolved. I hope I don't get banished to "loser Ville" and get put on your ignore list, making it population 2, as I cannot bear to think of how I might survive....fuck. I can't even think of how to even carry that train of thought. What possible reason in all of creation could I possibly give a shit if you ignore me? Sorry, but I can't come up with one reasonable inkling as to why that might have an effect on my life, real or imagined.
Thus far I have tried to stay above the fray here, but I guess it might be time to jump in. Tooch's point, which seems to have gone right above the heads of 90 percent of the respondants to this juncture, is that a sleeping facial ought not to be the basis for a violent response. Anyone who seriously disagrees with that statement most likely has some deep seeded issues from their pasts that everyone would hope you are dealing with in some meaningful way. By that I mean in some way other than hanging around a porn forum taking angry pott shots at fellow citizens of the world. All of the other bulshit here is really just all of the other bullshit.
If anyone wants to look closely, or even not so closely, getting yourselves up to a fifth grade reading ability should do the trick, (I can tell for some of you this means drinking some coffee before reading and typing, lots and lots of coffee, so by all means, perk it up) he didn't actually attack anyone who did not attack him first. And when he did attack back, he seems to have tried to do it at the same intellectual level from which the attacks had originated.

*As a side note, Nightbird, I'm not sure any thinking human could attack you on your level, poopie head had already been used up, and no one thinks attacking a retarded person by immitating a retarded voice is very funny. Well, when I think about that statement based against some of the posts on here, that might not be a hard fact. I will leave it in however, giving many posters the benefit of the doubt which they surely have not earned, but I'm a nice guy, what can I say? With you Nightbird he did the best he could, and you can never really blame a person for doing their best.

Tooch and I really have only one thing in common, as far as I can say, as we don't really know eachother, and it is one thing which sets us apart from the bulk of the respondants on this thread. We both think before we type. I know that is probably a difficult idea for many of you to grasp. The biggest hurdle is that it would require some actual thinking to understand it. And a little thinking of my own made me realize that Tooch and I have another thing in common that I know for a certainty.. Neither of us likes to be attacked unfairly.

 

[Tooch McGroin]

Nightbird, what happened to your ignore button? Oh, I see, that was just the old FAKE IGNORE. As I said before, this shit gets tricky when you want to respond to the ignored people. You need some pretense to take somebody OFF the Fake Ignore before jumping back into the bash-fest. I guess you forgot about that.

Speaking of being clueless, what exactly is a closet moron? Is it like a guy who, despite all efforts, cannot conceal his idiocy? And speaking of naked idiocy, what's all this shit about class, romance and soul? Did the old Fake Ignore ploy fail to get a nibble?

Better luck next time, bozo. Try aiming your arrows at a target you can hit.

 

[asenath]

I'd be pissed if some guy pulled a stunt like that while I was sleeping. I'd either break it off (the relationship) or have a very long talk with him.. depending on how serious the relationship was.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Don't make me slap you, missy.

Wait. You'd like that. Hey, so would I. How about we exchange a few?

LOL!

I'm thinking we may as well entertain ourselves, too. Seen any good movies lately?

 

[sunfox]

LOL!

I'm thinking we may as well entertain ourselves, too. Seen any good movies lately?

There haven't been a lot of good ones out lately, unfortunately. I do want to catch Hellboy in the theater, but finding a babysitter is a pain.

Then there was this one movie, where the guy woke up while his girlfriend was sleeping, and spurted cum on her face for the hell of it, and she woke up and thanked him for the romantic nature of it all, and the burning sensation in her eye and nose from the cum deposit. No really.

Okay, I'm lying.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

...as I have been thus far able to avoid, diving into the name calling, personality-trashing, pop pschology, grammer school ethic to which this thread has devolved....
Thus far I have tried to stay above the fray here....

Nope, not really, dude. Go back and check your posts. Try Harder. You and Tooch Are 'the fray.'

Tooch's point, which seems to have gone right above the heads of 90 percent of the respondants to this juncture, is that a sleeping facial ought not to be the basis for a violent response.

You are deciding that Tooch's point, is THE point. There are several points being made here. He never asked anyone whether they were seriously contemplating violence and, if so, in what context. He jumped in, as you did, with assumptions, rudeness and intolerance for any opinion but his own.

By that I mean in some way other than hanging around a porn forum taking angry pott shots at fellow citizens of the world. All of the other bulshit here is really just all of the other bullshit.

Back atcha, dude. The potshots started with Tooch. And 'the other bullshit,' as you call it, happens to be the various points everyone else, other than you and Tooch, have been making. Points which, thus far, seem to have gone over Your heads.

he didn't actually attack anyone who did not attack him first. And when he did attack back, he seems to have tried to do it at the same intellectual level from which the attacks had originated.

Au contraire, mon petit chose. Nope, uh-uh, nyet, nein, Mein Herr, it did not happen that way. Le petit bebe did not come here, poor innocent, and get picked on by all the Big Mean Nasty Women. Nor did he attack on a similar intellectual plane. You see? I can tell the difference, and am responding accordingly. If you speak like a human being -- even a very wrong, mistaken, oh so misled, human being -- you will spoken to in a like manner.

We both think before we type.

Considering the Quality of the endproduct, which displays a lack of due diligence in researching the posts before yours, I don't know that you are doing yourself any good by advertising that fact.

Neither of us likes to be attacked unfairly.

Ahh, then I would suggest you refrain from coming in on the attack in the first place, which others are liable to interpret as an unfair attack, themselves.

You see, what this has devolved into is: 'you're not hearing Our point. Uh, uh, YOu're not hearing Ours! Our point is more important! No, Ours is! You were Rude! Well, you started it! Insane-Montrous-Evil-Cunt-Bastards! Am not-Am not! I'm rubber and you're glue, everything I say bounces off me and....'

Done yet, or do you really think you have something to offer here?

 

[Phoenix Stone]

...a fifth grade mentality....

...you big cheater.

I'll admit these are not in the same category as you Stupid-Crazy-Bitch-Cunts, or "I'll come in all your faces," when it comes to a lack of civility, but you ought to admit, at least to yourself, that if you come into a thread on the attack, toward the other posters, rather than toward the topic, you have not stayed above the fray, you Are name-calling, and you are likely to get the same in return.

 

[Hexxed]

Clearly what is needed is little signs to hang around ones neck saying, "Jizz on my face/eyes/nose/ears you big stud!" or "Piss on my lips you hairy cunt!" or "Come (cum?) near my face and I'll slice your <insert appropriate term for genitals here> off!"


Minature American flags for everyone else.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Okay, now you're getting a little too lovey dovey for me. I'm starting to think you aren't the naughty Dom we all know and love. Say it ain't so, rosco!

And for the record... I enjoy fighting with people. I wasn't offended that you got snippy. People with no opinions bore me.

more wine, garçon; and oral sex for all my friends!

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Clearly what is needed is little signs to hang around ones neck saying, "Jizz on my face/eyes/nose/ears you big stud!" or "Piss on my lips you hairy cunt!" or "Come (cum?) near my face and I'll slice your <insert appropriate term for genitals here> off!"


Minature American flags for everyone else.

LMAO!!

Always nice to have someone step in with solutions!! Thanks!

 

[Meat Whistler]

You are deciding that Tooch's point, is THE point. There are several points being made here. He never asked anyone whether they were seriously contemplating violence and, if so, in what context. He jumped in, as you did, with assumptions, rudeness and intolerance for any opinion but his own.

I take issue with this statement, even though it wasn't directed towards me. Tooch was not assuming anything. He read what I, too, read and took it at face value. I took it at face value and read numerous violent responses. Why should I question the sincerity of the post when there was no indication of sarcasm or otherwise?

In fact, a few people, as I recall, stated it with a rather serious tone to their post. I had no reason to question their sincerity. No assumptions were made.

 

[la mariposita]

What an interesting thread. Two opposing sides and yet they both have to resort to name calling and childishness. How ridiculous. You don't have to flame to get your point across. I commend those who didn't.

As for my thoughts about the original issue, I find that if a man (for the most part) were to cum on my face I would find it degrading. Maybe (a big maybe) in the heat of the moment during sex I would crave it, but not while I'm sleeping. I actually love it when my lover ejaculates on any other part of my body, but my face is a touchy issue. It's just not my preference. It does not make me a prude of any sort because as people we all have our preferences. What one person may enjoy won't slide well with another. Actually, in a loving and trusting partnership I would love my lover to take me while I'm asleep...others may find it offensive because they think it wasn't consensual. It really depends on the individual, that's all. I'm sure if I were to pee on a boyfriend's face while he slept (unless he was into that sort of thing), he would find it fucked up.

I guess what it boils down to is communicate your thoughts and feelings before doing anything risky to avoid offending your partner. Someone noted that earlier, but ofcourse you all were too busy arguing over god knows what and missed some good advice. Maybe you'll ignore this one as well. Oh well.

 

[warrior queen]

....communicate ....

there's that word again!

 

[Phoenix Stone]

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[Phoenix Stone]

Italian Goddess said, "I take issue with this statement, even though it wasn't directed towards me. Tooch was not assuming anything. He read what I, too, read and took it at face value. I took it at face value and read numerous violent responses. Why should I question the sincerity of the post when there was no indication of sarcasm or otherwise?

In fact, a few people, as I recall, stated it with a rather serious tone to their post. I had no reason to question their sincerity. No assumptions were made."

sigh. He insisted they were serious even when They said they weren't, and (figuratively) jumped up and down, insulting Everyone ('I will come on ALL your faces') at the same time. Btw, did you take him literally then?

You didn't insult people. The point you seemed to be making, that they shouldn't use violent imagery in a casual way, at least made sense to me, and didn't have any contradictions in it.
But you Did assume that the SO meant the facial in a sexy friendly way. Presumably, (and I would say, obviously, considering their reactions) the angry women did not. They appear to have taken it as meant to be an insult. Meant to humiliate. The way, for instance, most people take having their face spat in. And took strong exception to it.
If you recall, I said that, knowing my spouse, I'd think he'd lost his marbles. I couldn't imagine him trying to insult or humiliate me in this way. And to cum on my face while I'm sleeping in a 'sexy friendly way' -- knowing that some people don't like it? -- he would discuss it in some way first. Doesn't have to be direct. But not completely out of the blue either. Everyone is different.

Tooch also keeps insulting people who just say that they personally just don't like it. And assuming all kinds of things in those insults. He's also been insulting me all along -- because I disagree with him and am defending the others, even if I personally, wouldn't have had a strong negative reaction if my SO had done this. He calls this being tolerant and broadminded.

He assumed and keeps assuming that I'm violent, insane, a bitch, etc. Or at least that's what he keeps saying. So, I'm going to Assume that he thinks it, despite his not having any evidence of it. (Unless you consider my calling him Poopiehead in return, evidence of something. ) In fact, if you look further, he continues jumping to conclusions, and making assumptions, all over the place.

Assumptions Were, and continue to be, made.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

It's just not my preference. It does not make me a prude of any sort because as people we all have our preferences. What one person may enjoy won't slide well with another. It really depends on the individual, that's all. I'm sure if I were to pee on a boyfriend's face while he slept (unless he was into that sort of thing), he would find it fucked up.

I guess what it boils down to is communicate your thoughts and feelings before doing anything risky to avoid offending your partner. Someone noted that earlier, but ofcourse you all were too busy arguing over god knows what and missed some good advice. Maybe you'll ignore this one as well. Oh well.

Thing is, quite a few people gave this advice, all the way along.

Problem is, one guy disagreed with it, said anyone who didn't share his preference was an idiot, a prude, etc.
I think he's from the General Board. After he spent some time insulting How-To forum stalwarts such as Sheath, who was perfectly polite, he was told to go away and didn't.
Said he would 'Come on All our Faces!" and never leave, just to show us.

What do you suggest one does about a very persistent troll? He's calmed down some, and a couple of people who've seen this slightly calmer version, and the anger of the group he's been spewing on, have jumped in to help him. So now what?

Actually, in a loving and trusting partnership I would love my lover to take me while I'm asleep...others may find it offensive because they think it wasn't consensual.

My husband of many years does this all the time and I Love it!
Unfortunately, we never got this 'conversation' moved back into a discussion of what works and how it works, or what's fun or anything else worthwhile because there was too much resistance from one quarter. If it had, it would have been nice to talk 'How-To'.

Anyway, any ideas? 'How-to' get rid of a troll?

 

[Meat Whistler]

sigh. He insisted they were serious even when They said they weren't, and (figuratively) jumped up and down, insulting Everyone ('I will come on ALL your faces') at the same time. Btw, did you take him literally then?

I didn't find his "I will cum on ALL your faces" insulting. He ended it with a , which to me, indicated sarcasm, joking, playing around. I took the as a cue that he was joking. There were no emoticons used during the violent posts. Furthermore, he can't cum on someone's face online, so it wasn't something to be taken literally.

-snip- But you Did assume that the SO meant the facial in a sexy friendly way. Presumably, (and I would say, obviously, considering their reactions) the angry women did not. They appear to have taken it as meant to be an insult. Meant to humiliate. The way, for instance, most people take having their face spat in. And took strong exception to it. -snip-

I took the question at face value and don't know the thread starter; however, he did mention this was his girlfriend. There was no indication of anything in their relationship, but he said it was a girlfriend, someone he presumably had sex with already.

I, personally, don't view cum facials (surprise or otherwise) distasteful. However, I do understand how others can. My point was, even if it was distasteful and done to insult, the violent responses were not necessary. I took them at face value and was appalled that such comments would be thrown about so quickly. You now say that they were "joking", but I would simply say that people need to be careful about what they say online, as it can easily be misconstrued.

Tooch also keeps insulting people who just say that they personally just don't like it. And assuming all kinds of things in those insults. He's also been insulting me all along -- because I disagree with him and am defending the others, even if I personally, wouldn't have had a strong negative reaction if my SO had done this. He calls this being tolerant and broadminded.

Tooch was insulted to begin with and I, personally, would have been offended by some of the initial insults. Although I may not have reacted like he did, I do understand his retorts.

To be honest, in reading his posts, he states to have had problems with the violence. He has stated a few times that he doesn't care if someone would allow it (as he said he isn't really into it), but he doesn't see the need for the violent remarks. I agree with him.

He assumed and keeps assuming that I'm violent, insane, a bitch, etc. Or at least that's what he keeps saying. So, I'm going to Assume that he thinks it, despite his not having any evidence of it. (Unless you consider my calling him Poopiehead in return, evidence of something. ) In fact, if you look further, he continues jumping to conclusions, and making assumptions, all over the place. Assumptions Were, and continue to be, made.

I think Tooch was grouping you in with the ones you were defending – those who made violent comments.

 

[sheath]

Anyway, any ideas? 'How-to' get rid of a troll?

Sometimes, the only thing that works for the Hanns-types is using the ignore function. But of course, Hanns is simply fun to fuck with on occasion, which is the category this character is placing himself in...someone who won't be taken seriously, only used as target practice on bad days...just like Hanns.

Unfortunate that this flotsam had to show up on the How-To board, however. In the GB this kind of thing would be welcomed with open arms. *sigh*

S.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

I didn't find his "I will cum on ALL your faces" insulting. He ended it with a , which to me, indicated sarcasm, joking, playing around. I took the as a cue that he was joking. There were no emoticons used during the violent posts. Furthermore, he can't cum on someone's face online, so it wasn't something to be taken literally.

I suppose you found being called a man-hating dyke in that same post a fun joke, too? This is where the insulting started. Tooch.

Tooch was insulted to begin with and I, personally, would have been offended by some of the initial insults. Although I may not have reacted like he did, I do understand his retorts. [/B]

NOPE. Not even close. Go look at pages 2 and 3.

To be honest, in reading his posts, he states to have had problems with the violence. He has stated a few times that he doesn't care if someone would allow it (as he said he isn't really into it), but he doesn't see the need for the violent remarks. I agree with him. [/B]

Yup, while arguing in a rather violent manner. Look back.

He also didn't see the need for anyone to disagree with him. And called anyone who didn't like the idea of facials all sorts of names. Very tolerant.

I think Tooch was grouping you in with the ones you were defending – those who made violent comments. [/B]

Ya think? He also grouped Everyone who disagreed with him in the slightest in with that group, too.

 

[Meat Whistler]

I didn't take his comments in calling anyone a man-hating dyke as a joke. Don't ASSume.

I apologize, I should have said "figuratively". And, don't patronize me; I'm not a child and you are not my superior.

Bobmi started with the patronizing acts; that's offensive. I would have been highly offended, as I was above, when you suggested that I don't understand one poster's intent, when she obviously indicated a joke about Lorena.

Actually, from what I've read (as I stated before), he doesn't seem to have a problem with those who don't like them. He had a problem with those who utilized words of violence (cut off dick) to indicate their hatred for surprise cum facials.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Tooch was insulted to begin with.

Still, no. In fact, I've shown remarkable forbearance in his case.

I want to apologize to you, though. I said something mildly rude to you and I'm sorry.

 

[Meat Whistler]

Still, no. In fact, I've shown remarkable forbearance in his case.

I want to apologize to you, though. I said something mildly rude to you and I'm sorry.

We can agree to disagree as far as Tooch is concerned. I agree with his stance and while I don't need you to agree, I simply wanted to show you from another point of view how those comments could have been seen.

Apology accepted.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

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