Women too smart to have children?

Ishmael

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It's been long known that fertility rates are inversely proportional to economic well being. As prosperity increases birth rates fall.

Now comes a new study out of the London School of Economics suggesting that maternal instinct is also inversely proportional to the IQ of the woman.

"Smart women don't breed."

NOTE: the link is to an article about the study, not the study itself.

This follows an article I read a month or so ago about the avg. IQ falling in the industrialized world. (I'll try to source that article later today.)

This provokes several questions in my mind the first being, 'Are the intelligent selectively removing their genes from the gene pool?' If so the long term consequences for the human race are ominous.

The second question is, so what? Horse breeders continually talk about the prepotency of the stallion. Mares are given some credit as to quality of the foal, but not nearly as much as the stallion. The implication of this, if it indeed has any credibility and the genetic propensities of horses are also valid for humans, is that relatively unintelligent women can bear highly intelligent offspring as long as the father is intelligent. Off course buying into this model causes even more questions concerning the "falling IQ" situation. It might also imply that 'smart men' aren't siring children either. (No study done on that yet as far as I know.)

There is also the various studies that show that while women tend to have the same statistical IQ as their male counterparts, the female IQ distribution falls into a much tighter band meaning that in any population distribution you will find far fewer genius level women than men. On the other hand in that same population distribution you will find far fewer idiots among female population than among the male population. A finding that may tend to support the 'horse breeders' notions of prepotency.

And in the end, in the coming age of genetic engineering will it make any difference at all? Smart women can insure their genetic posterity via the use of surrogates and genetic manipulation (Men as well). Of course in the initial rise of this propensity only the wealthy will be taking advantage of the science. But that brings up the question as to whether the decision not to breed is based on the the actual bearing of the child or the long term investment required to raise the child?

Ishmael
 
Some more great thinking by this study's author:

What accounts for the markedly lower average level of physical attractiveness among black women? Black women are on average much heavier than nonblack women. The mean body-mass index (BMI) at Wave III is 28.5 among black women and 26.1 among nonblack women. (Black and nonblack men do not differ in BMI: 27.0 vs. 26.9) However, this is not the reason black women are less physically attractive than nonblack women. Black women have lower average level of physical attractiveness net of BMI. Nor can the race difference in intelligence (and the positive association between intelligence and physical attractiveness) account for the race difference in physical attractiveness among women. Black women are still less physically attractive than nonblack women net of BMI and intelligence. Net of intelligence, black men are significantly more physically attractive than nonblack men.
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The only thing I can think of that might potentially explain the lower average level of physical attractiveness among black women is testosterone. Africans on average have higher levels of testosterone than other races, and testosterone, being an androgen (male hormone), affects the physical attractiveness of men and women differently. Men with higher levels of testosterone have more masculine features and are therefore more physically attractive. In contrast, women with higher levels of testosterone also have more masculine features and are therefore less physically attractive. The race difference in the level of testosterone can therefore potentially explain why black women are less physically attractive than women of other races, while (net of intelligence) black men are more physically attractive than men of other races.
 
I recognized this phenomena when I started work for the state. Intelligent women don't have kids. My department had 5 females and 2 males, none of the females ever had kids, both of us guys did.

The phenomenon is common, though. Barren females are always smart and liberal.
 
Oh, like Hillary?


And Condi Rice?

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Some more great thinking by this study's author:

I'm well aware of the controversy concerning his previous study. No new study is without controversy and only subsequent studies will determine the veracity of the conclusions. Consequently it is pointless to attack an author, the only valid point of attack is towards the measurable findings. Anything you may "feel" regarding the findings are of no consequence at all.

Ishmael
 
Ahh, here's an article on falling IQ. Taken from none other than the HuffPo.

"Falling IQ"

Ironically the author of this study points to selective non-breeding by intelligent females as one of the possible factors.

Ishmael
 
There might be a conflation of intelligence and affluence at work here...


Every smart girl who marries a Prince realizes that she had better produce an heir...

Take kbate Middleton, for example.

:D (Unless the Prince married an idiot... ;) ;) )
 
There might be a conflation of intelligence and affluence at work here...


Every smart girl who marries a Prince realizes that she had better produce an heir...

Take kbate Middleton, for example.

:D (Unless the Prince married an idiot... ;) ;) )

Yup, there is no denying the confluence of economic well being and IQ. Still doesn't bode well for the developed world.

Ishmael
 
Article bashing smart women? Check
Enthusiastic Ishmael/AJ/JamesBRecluse commentary? Check
We're done here folks.
:nods:
 
I think intelligence is a self-correcting phenomenon, since we are not really speaking of all that vast a range, for as we see, when left to their own devices, the truly intelligent will design an ideal social and economic system that must collapse leaving the stupid to pick up the pieces and restore a bit of Laissez-faire common sense in their desire to feed their children...

;) ;)
 
Is that not a scary thought?


That we are relying on the Throbs of the world to be our eventual salvation when Liberal pipe dreams fall and burn?
 
I think intelligence is a self-correcting phenomenon, since we are not really speaking of all that vast a range, for as we see, when left to their own devices, the truly intelligent will design an ideal social and economic system that must collapse leaving the stupid to pick up the pieces and restore a bit of Laissez-faire common sense in their desire to feed their children...

;) ;)

I love it.

We're going to be saved by stupidity. :rolleyes:

That should be the new Tea Party slogan.

Anti-intellectualism at it's finest ladies and gentlebeings.
 
Yup, there is no denying the confluence of economic well being and IQ. Still doesn't bode well for the developed world.

Ishmael


You think the developed world got to be the developed world without applying intelligence? Man's intelligence has basically been a constant since the beginning of time. The only measurable change is in the level of knowledge. If this study were true, don't you think that perhaps, intelligence would already have been bred out of the species?Âą

It is equally likely that the author of this study is releasing his annual, "be relevant and controversial" study.


Âą on second thought. . . this thread as my own study indicates the definite possibility
 
I've submitted in the past that IQs above 130 are indices of pathology rather than fitness. Think weight or blood pressure for a relevant analogy.
 
I think intelligence is a self-correcting phenomenon, since we are not really speaking of all that vast a range, for as we see, when left to their own devices, the truly intelligent will design an ideal social and economic system that must collapse leaving the stupid to pick up the pieces and restore a bit of Laissez-faire common sense in their desire to feed their children...


Your future is so bright you need sunglasses. . .
 
You think the developed world got to be the developed world without applying intelligence? Man's intelligence has basically been a constant since the beginning of time. The only measurable change is in the level of knowledge. If this study were true, don't you think that perhaps, intelligence would already have been bred out of the species?Âą

It is equally likely that the author of this study is releasing his annual, "be relevant and controversial" study.


Âą on second thought. . . this thread as my own study indicates the definite possibility

But smart girls remain barren, even if the researcher is Uncle Numnutz.
 
I like how the point here is NOT "smart women now refuse to copulate with dumb men" and that could, maybe, just might be the reason?

No?

Ok, carry on!
 
I like how the point here is NOT "smart women now refuse to copulate with dumb men" and that could, maybe, just might be the reason?

No?

Ok, carry on!

It is well known that now that we cannot go clubbing and drag them off by the hair, that women do the choosing in the grand scheme of the mating dance, yet strangely, they are the ones that go all peacock...
 
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