Women, how do you protect yourselves?

[warrior queen]

In the wake of Jill Meagher's tragic death, which has made worldwide news, the question is.... when you are out, and need to protect yourself from attack, how do you ensure your personal safety?

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/vict...f-murder-hearing/story-e6frf7kx-1226482868669

She only had to walk about 700m home, and yet she was murdered.

Do you think about this? What steps have you taken to make sure you are safe?
Can anything keep you safe if some homicidal asshole targets you?

 

[satindesire]

In the wake of Jill Meagher's tragic death, which has made worldwide news, the question is.... when you are out, and need to protect yourself from attack, how do you ensure your personal safety?

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/vict...f-murder-hearing/story-e6frf7kx-1226482868669

She only had to walk about 700m home, and yet she was murdered.

Do you think about this? What steps have you taken to make sure you are safe?
Can anything keep you safe if some homicidal asshole targets you?

I never go anywhere by myself unless I absolutely have to. My husband is with me constantly. He was law enforcement and in the military, so I'm confident in his ability to protect me if possible. He's also smart enough to know when to run/stop. I trust him explicitly.

But if someone REALLY wanted to kill me, I'm sure there's nothing I could do about that.

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

With the pearl handled derringer I carry in my garter belt.

 

[dirtycarol]

A large dog is always good, but a Smith&Wesson .38 is a bit more certain.

 

[girlsmiley]

You can only try to prevent.

I stay with my mates, but if I find myself alone I will get a ride. It doesn't matter if your house is only 100 metres away. Motherfuckers only need an inch.

 

[satindesire]

We should also protect ourselves by teaching our sons not to rape.

Prevention starts at home.

 

[girlsmiley]

In the wake of Jill Meagher's tragic death, which has made worldwide news, the question is.... when you are out, and need to protect yourself from attack, how do you ensure your personal safety?

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/news/vict...f-murder-hearing/story-e6frf7kx-1226482868669

She only had to walk about 700m home, and yet she was murdered.

Do you think about this? What steps have you taken to make sure you are safe?
Can anything keep you safe if some homicidal asshole targets you?

I've thought about it, and the only way Jill could have ensured her safety was to not be there.

She was in the wrong place at the wrong time and I KNOW, a person should be able to walk home without being raped and murdered, but I also know that there are crazy people everywhere, and that piece of shit got her.

 

[CandiCame]

I don't know how it works where you all are, but in the States men are 10x more likely to be murdered then the ladies. Giving into the 'rape culture' despite how rare something like this actually is leads to a fear culture that has you jumping and afraid to go out at night when there's absolutely no reason to be. You'll pass this unnecessary fear along to your daughters and create this never-ending cycle of horror that makes women think that they are unsafe, that they are second-class citizens, and frighten them into merging their lives around this imaginary threat- to the point that they'll be afraid to go out alone or at night or in certain outfits. To the point that if they are raped, they might think, "Well, I shouldn't have been out alone or at night or in this outfit. It was partially my fault."

And that is fucking horrible.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't be aware of your surroundings, or that you shouldn't carry a gun to protect yourself, but please don't act like something like this is common, please don't allow the fear to be a part of our culture, because this is a tragedy- but not a common occurrence. And you can't let fear rule your life.

 

[kbate]

I don't know how it works where you all are, but in the States men are 10x more likely to be murdered then the ladies. Giving into the 'rape culture' despite how rare something like this actually is leads to a fear culture that has you jumping and afraid to go out at night when there's absolutely no reason to be. You'll pass this unnecessary fear along to your daughters and create this never-ending cycle of horror that makes women think that they are unsafe, that they are second-class citizens, and frighten them into merging their lives around this imaginary threat- to the point that they'll be afraid to go out alone or at night or in certain outfits. To the point that if they are raped, they might think, "Well, I shouldn't have been out alone or at night or in this outfit. It was partially my fault."

And that is fucking horrible.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't be aware of your surroundings, or that you shouldn't carry a gun to protect yourself, but please don't act like something like this is common, please don't allow the fear to be a part of our culture, because this is a tragedy- but not a common occurrence. And you can't let fear rule your life.

This sounds like the speech I'd expect from a sexual predator. Don't worry, be happy!

Imaginary. Right. Have you read the statistics concerning the % of women who experience some form of violence?

Rape is about 7 times more common than murder - but no reason to worry if you don't have boobs (unless you are one of the young women who get raped that is).

 

[CandiCame]

This sounds like the speech I'd expect from a sexual predator. Don't worry, be happy!

Imaginary. Right. Have you read the statistics concerning the % of women who experience some form of violence?

Rape is about 7 times more common than murder - but no reason to worry if you don't have boobs (unless you are one of the young women who get raped that is).

Yes. Yes I have. Because I hate the culture that tries to pretend that all men are sexual predators. You're more likely to have your car stolen then you are to get raped, even if we take in all the 'nonreported' rapes.

Women make up 40% of rapists, but they never want to admit it or talk about it.

Men are 15 times less likely to report a rape then a woman, but tend to get raped in about the same numbers.

The reality of rape is that it is extremely uncommon. And I think that women in places where it is this uncommon are being incredibly disrespectful to women in places like Sudan where there is a rape culture, where it is an actual concern, where you really do need to worry about it. In South Africa rapes are so bad that women have started wearing Rape Xs. And to downplay their trauma, their horrible culture, the complete lack of rights and justice that those women have, is fucking horrible.

And again, men are 10x more likely to experience violence then women. That's both random violence and at-home violence. For whatever reason, abusive parents are more likely to abuse their sons then their daughters. There are a number of sociologists and scientists who believe that this is the reason that there are more paternal then maternial abusers, because if you are abused you're more likely to become an abuser as an adult. Women only have a 10% lead in reported domestic violence, and the vast majority of sociologists will tell you that that's because men will flat out not report it. They will not admit that they're being abused by a spouse. It's emasculating.

Don't fucking play the abuse card with me. It's a touchy subject. I'm getting tattoos to cover up the scars my dad left on me. I fucking know abuse. I know the stats, I know from personal experience. Yeah, you research that shit when you're sitting in the hospital on your laptop wondering why the hell nobody did anything. But do I let it color my world? Not really. I'm not afraid of men. If you go over to the gay forum, you can ask people who know a lot more about my past, but have you ever heard me mention it here? No. Because it isn't a be-all end all. It's not gonna keep me from going out at night or doing what i need to get done.

You should look up some stats on gender and violence. I'm the key fucking demographic. The most likely type of person to experience a violent crime is a minority gay male. And it's still so rare that I don't worry about it. And I'm not going to teach my kids to live in a culture of fear.

 

[CNYCarol]

Women, how do you protect yourselves?

"Tis better to have a firearm and never need it, than to need one and not have it."

SR9

 

[CandiCame]

"Tis better to have a firearm and never need it, than to need one and not have it."

SR9

 

[kbate]

Yes. Yes I have. Because I hate the culture that tries to pretend that all men are sexual predators. You're more likely to have your car stolen then you are to get raped, even if we take in all the 'nonreported' rapes.

Women make up 40% of rapists, but they never want to admit it or talk about it.

Men are 15 times less likely to report a rape then a woman, but tend to get raped in about the same numbers.

The reality of rape is that it is extremely uncommon. And I think that women in places where it is this uncommon are being incredibly disrespectful to women in places like Sudan where there is a rape culture, where it is an actual concern, where you really do need to worry about it. In South Africa rapes are so bad that women have started wearing Rape Xs. And to downplay their trauma, their horrible culture, the complete lack of rights and justice that those women have, is fucking horrible.

And again, men are 10x more likely to experience violence then women. That's both random violence and at-home violence. For whatever reason, abusive parents are more likely to abuse their sons then their daughters. There are a number of sociologists and scientists who believe that this is the reason that there are more paternal then maternial abusers, because if you are abused you're more likely to become an abuser as an adult. Women only have a 10% lead in reported domestic violence, and the vast majority of sociologists will tell you that that's because men will flat out not report it. They will not admit that they're being abused by a spouse. It's emasculating.

Don't fucking play the abuse card with me. It's a touchy subject. I'm getting tattoos to cover up the scars my dad left on me. I fucking know abuse. I know the stats, I know from personal experience. Yeah, you research that shit when you're sitting in the hospital on your laptop wondering why the hell nobody did anything. But do I let it color my world? Not really. I'm not afraid of men. If you go over to the gay forum, you can ask people who know a lot more about my past, but have you ever heard me mention it here? No. Because it isn't a be-all end all. It's not gonna keep me from going out at night or doing what i need to get done.

You should look up some stats on gender and violence. I'm the key fucking demographic. The most likely type of person to experience a violent crime is a minority gay male. And it's still so rare that I don't worry about it. And I'm not going to teach my kids to live in a culture of fear.

You are making up your numbers on the spot.

only 8.7% of rape victims are male.
In 0.2% of rapes the offender is a female raping a male.
in 0.8% of rapes, the offender and victim are both female.
20% of women report some instance of rape in their lives.

Where are your 40% of women who rape in these numbers? You won't find that number published anywhere other than in your own post, at least not by any reasonable authority.

We aren't talking "general violence" we are talking about gender related violence. Men killed selling or buying drugs from other men - skew the violence statistics, but fit nicely into your statement, "MEN experience violence more often."

You yelled, "let's not talk abuse" but in order to get your "men 10x" you have to use in-home abuse and drug related crime.

Try again.

 

[Wings]

I go the chubby Amazon route. It works well.

That and I've been boxing for 14 years so there's that.

 

[kbate]

I go the chubby Amazon route. It works well.

That and I've been boxing for 14 years so there's that.

Running away works pretty well. The average violent offender can't run 10 miles.

Plus, having a cell phone all the time makes violence less likely, 911 is only seconds away.

 

[Wings]

Running away works pretty well. The average violent offender can't run 10 miles.

Plus, having a cell phone all the time makes violence less likely, 911 is only seconds away.

I was being flippant, sort of. The most important thing is to be aware. I don't walk with my headphones in, I stay alert to my surroundings, and I keep my keys in between my fingers as I walk to my car in the dark.

I fall under the "women injured by violent men" category but it was broad daylight and there were people around. It's not always the dark parking lot that will get you.

I teach my kids to pay attention, I WILL teach my daughter, especially, how to defend herself and stay alert. I don't instill fear into my kids but I do want them to pay attention and be aware of things that could happen.

 

[colddiesel]

"Tis better to have a firearm and never need it, than to need one and not have it."

SR9

No one should rely on a gun unless they are totally willing to kill another human being. Without that trained intent, a gun is as great a danger to the user as to the target.

If you are not certain you could kill, don't arm yourself - it's a self delusion.

 

[kbate]

I was being flippant, sort of. The most important thing is to be aware. I don't walk with my headphones in, I stay alert to my surroundings, and I keep my keys in between my fingers as I walk to my car in the dark.

I fall under the "women injured by violent men" category but it was broad daylight and there were people around. It's not always the dark parking lot that will get you.

I teach my kids to pay attention, I WILL teach my daughter, especially, how to defend herself and stay alert. I don't instill fear into my kids but I do want them to pay attention and be aware of things that could happen.

I was wanking to the chubby amazon kick-boxer thing and you just ruined it with good common sense.

 

[Wings]

I was wanking to the chubby amazon kick-boxer thing and you just ruined it with good common sense.

Oh I'm sorry. I'd put up my AV of my competition tanktop if I was at home to help you out.

Umm. Sweaty, angry boxing.

Better?

 

[girlsmiley]

I was being flippant, sort of. The most important thing is to be aware. I don't walk with my headphones in, I stay alert to my surroundings, and I keep my keys in between my fingers as I walk to my car in the dark.

I fall under the "women injured by violent men" category but it was broad daylight and there were people around. It's not always the dark parking lot that will get you.

I teach my kids to pay attention, I WILL teach my daughter, especially, how to defend herself and stay alert. I don't instill fear into my kids but I do want them to pay attention and be aware of things that could happen.

Hey, if I wasn't scared I would be a liar.

All due respect, girls, but this is not America.

 

[kbate]

Oh I'm sorry. I'd put up my AV of my competition tanktop if I was at home to help you out.

Umm. Sweaty, angry boxing.

Better?

Now I see a schoolmarm waving a yardstick. Something is gone.

Oh well.

 

[Wings]

Hey, if I wasn't scared I would be a liar.

All due respect, girls, but this is not America.

No disrespect meant from me, I understand that violence is more prevalent in places other than my cushy suburb. I'm sad that you guys have to be so scared.

 

[Wings]

Now I see a schoolmarm waving a yardstick. Something is gone.

Oh well.

Damn.

 

[kbate]

Damn.

wait . . . she just cracked me on the backside. Oh my.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I worked at a psych ER for several years, and the cops were notorious for bringing in armed admissions, or the cops tried to sneak their pistols in with them. Their weapons ALWAYS end up on the floor, at the bottom of a pile-on. You cant make cops understand that its against the law to bring a weapon inside a psychiatric facility. They still wanna argue after they read the law.