Women: Does objectification = degradation?

[KingOrfeo]

That is, if a man sees you as a sex object, is that an instance of male chauvinism? Is he seeing you/treating you as something less than an equally autonomous person with your own needs, views and feelings? Is pornography (the kind aimed at straight males) inherently demeaning to women? Is exotic dancing? Prostitution?

My view is, of course females are sex objects to (most) males, that's just part of nature -- human nature, mammalian nature, vertebrate nature, probably invertebrate nature too.

It is sexism to forget, or not to care, that every woman is also a great many other things in addition to that.

 

[richard_daily]

What's wrong with degradation?

 

[KingOrfeo]

What's wrong with degradation?

Well, that would be a different debate.

 

[richard_daily]

Well, that would be a different debate.

Fair enough.

 

[1HF]

What's wrong with degradation?

That my day is lacking it.

 

[richard_daily]

That my day is lacking it.

I knew I could count on you to bring this thread back from the dead.

 

[1HF]

I knew I could count on you to bring this thread back from the dead.

I can do the same with erections.

Like all sex objects, I aim to please.

 

[Que]

I can do the same with erections.

Like all sex objects, I aim to please.

...and that is what makes you such an attractive brood mare.

Kids are a lot of damned work and aggravation. One ought to at least have a really good time making them.

 

[richard_daily]

I can do the same with erections.

Like all sex objects, I aim to please.

Speaking of aiming, you're going to get something in your eye.

 

[bronzeage]

I don't believe giving a woman what she wants, is objectification or degradation. Giving her something she doesn't want is a different matter.

If she wants to dress up like pirates and use a pegleg for a dildo, I'll swab her mainsail, if that's what it takes.

 

[1HF]

...and that is what makes you such an attractive brood mare.

Kids are a lot of damned work and aggravation. One ought to at least have a really good time making them.

You had me at brood mare.

Speaking of aiming, you're going to get something in your eye.

Better put on my goggles.

 

[richard_daily]

Better put on my goggles.

I have some that you can borrow.

 

[1HF]

I have some that you can borrow.

And some gloves? I would like this to be as clean and clinical as possible.

 

[richard_daily]

And some gloves? I would like this to be as clean and clinical as possible.

I'll scrub you down with an alcohol-soaked mop.

 

[Erochic]

I don't believe giving a woman what she wants, is objectification or degradation. Giving her something she doesn't want is a different matter.

If she wants to dress up like pirates and use a pegleg for a dildo, I'll swab her mainsail, if that's what it takes.

That was just beautiful and so profound!

In a twisted pervy Lit way

 

[richard_daily]

That was just beautiful and so profound!

In a twisted pervy Lit way

Sometimes I wish that I was as highbrow as Bronzeage is...

Dude is classy. For real.

 

[Skiddles2014]

Bitches like the attention.

 

[1HF]

I'll scrub you down with an alcohol-soaked mop.

You always know how to get my juices flowing.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Bitches like the attention.

Do they?

 

[Erochic]

Sometimes I wish that I was as highbrow as Bronzeage is...

Dude is classy. For real.

Yep he just nailed in 2 lines what it takes others pages to not answer as well.

And the last line just drove it home

Of course as a dominant woman the dynamics are slightly different... And actually is pretty much all about giving me what I want

 

[ms_ann_thrope]

If a man see's me a one particular thing, them he's too one dimensional. Being seen as a sex object is an important part of a relationship, but only a part. That's as dumb as I can make.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I don't believe giving a woman what she wants, is objectification or degradation. Giving her something she doesn't want is a different matter.

And yet, for some reason, many feminists regard (straight-male-targeted) porn as inherently degrading to women, even if everyone involved is there by informed choice.

 

[bronzeage]

That was just beautiful and so profound!

In a twisted pervy Lit way

I am a river to my people.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And yet, for some reason, many feminists regard (straight-male-targeted) porn as inherently degrading to women, even if everyone involved is there by informed choice.

That's because they are fucking nuts and part of the whole "This hurts us more than it hurts you but it's for your own good." bullshit crew of lying fuck nuggets.

 

[Erochic]

And yet, for some reason, many feminists regard (straight-male-targeted) porn as inherently degrading to women, even if everyone involved is there by informed choice.

Hmm... But I am pretty disturbed by some of the shit that's out there... Especially when it always seems to be phrased "slut teen with gaping gash is pounded to an inch of her life"
Why can't we have " young woman loves sex and is enjoying a hard fuck"

Same video, more positive way of phrasing it.

When I was young hair pulling wasn't a thing, now it seems that it is expected.
That's all great if the girl is into it... but for me you pull my hair and I'm out of there (although if you bite me I'll be telling you to bite harder)