Will there ever again be such thing as a really famous poet?

[KingOrfeo]

I mean, other than one who writes song lyrics. Every educated person knows the names, and many can quote the verses, of Kipling or Eliot. I can't think of any recent poets, not even official poets laureate, who have achieved that status.

 

[Conager]

Why the qualifyer?

Surely, classical poets transported to our age would ply their trade as lyricists?

Tom Watts barely inlcludes music. Same with some rap.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Why the qualifyer?

Because enjoying a song is not quite the same thing as enjoying the tuneless music of words alone.

Let us go then, you and I,
When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherized upon a table;
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats
Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels
And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells:
Streets that follow like a tedious argument
Of insidious intent
To lead you to an overwhelming question ...
Oh, do not ask, “What is it?”
Let us go and make our visit.

In the room the women come and go
Talking of Michelangelo.

Does that really need a melody or instrumental accompaniment? Poetry is one thing, and music quite another.

 

[Ms_Ann]

I think Magnetron has a shot.

 

[Conager]

I
think Magnetron
should be
shot in furtherence
of poetic
evolution
​

Reformatted your post.

 

[Disgustipated]

Nas
Rakim
Brother Ali
Tech-N9ne
Immortal Technique

There's plenty modern-day poets that inspire.

 

[Conager]

Because enjoying a song is not quite the same thing as enjoying the tuneless music of words alone.



Does that really need a melody or instrumental accompaniment?

It isn't a question of need.

Setting that to music would not diminish it's value.

Remove the music from a Dylan song and it too stands well on its own.

I'm just saying we have famous poets; they choose to be gainfully employed rather than starve for their prose.

 

[Conager]

Nas
Rakim
Brother Ali
Tech-N9ne
Immortal Technique

There's plenty modern-day poets that inspire.

<Smooth>

Word up, uggmugg.

</Smooth>

 

[Disgustipated]

<Smooth>

Word up, uggmugg.

</Smooth>

Sm00t doesn't listen to literate poets, dummy.

 

[Conager]

Sm00t doesn't listen to literate poets, dummy.

I suspect (but don't know) that you might be surprised. Tastes aside, you might have more agreement there than not.

Not my genre, and who and what in music is not my wheelhouse the way you follow it, but I think that might be an interesting conversation.

Did you ever have a conversation about that or at least get a feel for where his tastes lie?

 

[Disgustipated]

I suspect (but don't know) that you might be surprised. Tastes aside, you might have more agreement there than not.

Not my genre, and who and what in music is not my wheelhouse the way you follow it, but I think that might be an interesting conversation.

Did you ever have a conversation about that or at least get a feel for where his tastes lie?

I remembered he liked a lot of shitty rap. He loves Kevin Gates. Gates is a fabulous story teller but a real fucking knucklehead that can't get out of his own way. Shame, he's a real talent.

Rakim? The greatest. Listen to this and read the lyrics while feeling the rhythm and flow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcYQo0IoWQc

He's usually not terribly braggadocius but he spits fire on this one.

 

[Conager]

I remembered he liked a lot of shitty rap. He loves Kevin Gates. Gates is a fabulous story teller but a real fucking knucklehead that can't get out of his own way. Shame, he's a real talent.

Rakim? The greatest. Listen to this and read the lyrics while feeling the rhythm and flow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcYQo0IoWQc

He's usually not terribly braggadocius but he spits fire on this one.

I much prefer with lyrics included. I am very visual. I miss a lot from audio only.

That whole time period was better <to me> because articulation, story telling, and the words as rhythm were much more apparent to me back then.

I always appreciate a clever turn of phrase wherever I happen to find it.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Nas
Rakim
Brother Ali
Tech-N9ne
Immortal Technique

There's plenty modern-day poets that inspire.

Well, I never heard of any of those, and I very much doubt their names or verses are taught in high-school English courses, or ever will be.

 

[neci]

one can only hope.

 

[Bookishleigh]

Margaret Atwood is more known for her novels; however, she does write poetry as well. (Just plugging one of my favorite authors).

 

[Disgustipated]

Margaret Atwood is more known for her novels; however, she does write poetry as well. (Just plugging one of my favorite authors).

You're my favorite author and I'd like to plug you.

 

[Bookishleigh]

You're my favorite author and I'd like to plug you.

You just say the sweetest things - when you're not being an asshat.

 

[Ms_Ann]

It's assclown.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Margaret Atwood is more known for her novels; however, she does write poetry as well. (Just plugging one of my favorite authors).

But she is famous as a novelist, not as a poet. How many English majors 100 years from now, or even now, will be able to quote her poetry without googling it?

 

[Disgustipated]

You just say the sweetest things - when you're not being an asshat.

You make me all romantical and shit.

 

[Bookishleigh]

But she is famous as a novelist, not as a poet. How many English majors 100 years from now, or even now, will be able to quote her poetry?

How many English majors will there be 100 years from now, honestly? I think perhaps you're looking at a very small aspect of a larger question. But Plath is known for both her poetry and as a novelist/writer - same as Poe and Maya Angelou.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You make me all rormantical and shit.

Be very, very careful how you use that word. It not seldom means something both extremely and willfully evil and extremely and willfully stupid.

 

[GuiltyPleasure]

Leonard Cohen

 

[KingOrfeo]

Leonard Cohen

What, that introverted drain?!

 

[pointless]

he's fucking dead. also, most people know him for his songs.