Will the China Virus lead to...

[dp4shelly]

If you study history you know that World War One was triggered by relatively minor events. The China Virus is going to kill millions and costing nations trillions of dollars. Economic collapse could result in many or all countries.

Where do you think the China Virus is taking mankind? World War 3? Total breakdown of human society? Or just a bump in the road of history?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

If you study history you know that World War One was triggered by relatively minor events.

So you consider the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand and his wife a minor event, why am I not surprised?

 

[dp4shelly]

Learning to read with understanding...

So you consider the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand and his wife a minor event, why am I not surprised?

I did not say it was a minor event. I said: "World War One was triggered by relatively minor events." Did you catch it this time? "Relatively minor" is different than minor. I think the death of anyone his tragic. But relative to the chain of events that lead to the death of MILLIONS and that also triggered the Spanish flu that killed even more it was relatively minor in the global scope of things.

To twist my words to make it appear like I have little regard for human life tells me that you could have a future with CNN.

 

[Sean]

WW1 was coming for thirty years before it actually started, dimbulb. Dozens of political and diplomatic alliances took place in a dance across the whole of Europe and beyond. As usual, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I did not say it was a minor event. I said: "World War One was triggered by relatively minor events." Did you catch it this time? "Relatively minor" is different than minor. I think the death of anyone his tragic. But relative to the chain of events that lead to the death of MILLIONS and that also triggered the Spanish flu that killed even more it was relatively minor in the global scope of things.

To twist my words to make it appear like I have little regard for human life tells me that you could have a future with CNN.

I am not twisting your words, you wrote "minor events", one such event that lead to WW1 was the assassination of Ferdinand, and his wife.

I would not call that minor, but you did because you only used the word "minor" to describe the events that lead up to WW1.

Maybe you should have actually studied what started WW1, and you would realize the events that triggered that war were not minor...none of them! Nor were the reason's the war occurred "simple" or "minor".

You want to talk about the changes that COVID-19 will bring to the world, that is fine. It may even be a good topic. Yet you start it off in your typical uninformed, uneducated and racist manner.

So far 45,299 people on this planet have died from COVID-19. In the US, 4,373 have died and 4,888 are serious/critical. Possibly 100,000 to 2 million ( 2 million is admittedly a hyperbolic number, but the potential exists) could die in the US alone from this before a vaccine that is effective is available.

All I have EVER seen from you is a denial of this reality coming. As well as your need to try and blame someone or something for this. Want me to go back and pull up all of your stupidity that you have posted on it? It is no wonder you wiped your previous ALT to hide all that idiotic drivel. How long before you crash this one out too?

 

[oneblueye]

hey...

If you study history you know that World War One was triggered by relatively minor events. The China Virus is going to kill millions and costing nations trillions of dollars. Economic collapse could result in many or all countries.

Where do you think the China Virus is taking mankind? World War 3? Total breakdown of human society? Or just a bump in the road of history?

When you look at the scope of all that we think we know of history, this pandemic--, at this point in history, as I'm writing doesn't even register as a tick mark on the ups and downs of mankinds history. And the only one qualified to make a definitive answer on where this will go or what will it leave behind is the ONE who can clearly see the future...

 

[LupusDei]

WW1 was coming for thirty years before it actually started, dimbulb. Dozens of political and diplomatic alliances took place in a dance across the whole of Europe and beyond. As usual, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Yup, and the final declaration of war was actually actively celebrated, including general public. In many ways it was great relief and genuine "finally!" moment. That it turns into the slaughterhouse it did, no one expected. That unlikely most previous wars it wouldn't bring net profits nobody expected. The latest fact, the huge cost of Great War and subsequent impossible reparations Germany was saddled with directly led to the Second World War.

 

[HisArpy]

I am not twisting your words, you wrote "minor events", one such event that lead to WW1 was the assassination of Ferdinand, and his wife.

I would not call that minor, but you did because you only used the word "minor" to describe the events that lead up to WW1.

Umm, no she didn't. She said "RELATIVELY minor events". Shelly even pointed that out to you in a second post.

But hey, I hear CNN is hiring...

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Umm, no she didn't. She said "RELATIVELY minor events". Shelly even pointed that out to you in a second post.

But hey, I hear CNN is hiring...

umm breaking news flash to the Lawyer, assassinations are not "relatively minor events" either, now are they?

I cannot believe you would "defend" Shelly?

You want to fuck her or something....lmao

 

[HisArpy]

umm breaking news flash to the Lawyer, assassinations are not "relatively minor events" either, now are they?

I cannot believe you would "defend" Shelly?

You want to fuck her or something....lmao

If you continually misquote people, then you should expect to be fact checked on it.

Which is a long way of saying that if you act like an asshole in public, expect to be treated as an asshole. In public.

Not that that's any shorter, but it gets the point across. Hopefully anyway.

 

[LupusDei]

If you study history you know that World War One was triggered by relatively minor events. The China Virus is going to kill millions and costing nations trillions of dollars. Economic collapse could result in many or all countries.

Where do you think the China Virus is taking mankind? World War 3? Total breakdown of human society? Or just a bump in the road of history?

With all the apparent technology humans are still just animals limited by ecology far more than anything else, at least the total populations are, when viewed in general enough terms. It's surprising really. Even great plagues and events as catastrophic as nuclear bombardment of Japan at the end of WW2 create just temporarily dips in the overall population plots. Have you ever contemplated what the true maximum growth rates of human population could be? With procreation as the objective arbitrary small group could repopulate current total world numbers within as little as three centuries. (Well, that's a result from a little simulation I build myself, with rather extreme assumptions.)

Economic impact is even more superfluous. By the way, the current loses on the pandemic may be justified as appropriate investment with proper mathematical gymnastics. For a rather simple example: it is established by supposedly specialists that the sum society is willing to spend to save a generic life in USA is about $10 million; the now accepted prognosis of "do nothing" case for USA was upwards of two million deaths from the novel coronavirus; so, two million times ten million... yup, it's right around the GDP of USA. Given practical limitations on spending/loses there's no cost too high. By the way, did you know the current lockdown is saving up to 10,000 lives per week without any connection to infection against with it is established, the biggest relative decrease in mortality being in 0-17 years age range? It's among the not-so-unexpected fringe benefits along with cleaner air.

But the question what will be the long term fallout of this little, admittedly strange episode in human history is a legitimate one. As often is the case, we currently are objectively unable to predict that. There's relatively simple trends that could extrapolated. Remote working obviously will get a lasting bump, automation may further increase, manufacturing methods may change along with moving it back closer to customers and designers. But those are minor trends that could have happened anyway. There's may or may not be completely novel turns, or lasting cultural impacts we are bound to call wrong. Would it be the final nail in the coffin of cash? Would the increased tracking and increasing teleworking lead to dystopic Big Brother regimes coming to life? (As if they wasn't already, some would say.) Will the statistical data gathered change the climate change discussion? What would be surviving consumer habits?

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

umm breaking news flash to the Lawyer, assassinations are not "relatively minor events" either, now are they?

I cannot believe you would "defend" Shelly?

You want to fuck her or something....lmao

Anything can be relatively minor. What is it being compared to?
In this case it's WWI so yeah, it's relatively minor.
He's an idiot and has no clue what he's saying but that point was correct.

 

[Counselor706]

Coronavirus will change the world permanently

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But crisis moments also present opportunity: more sophisticated and flexible use of technology, less polarization, a revived appreciation for the outdoors and life’s other simple pleasures. No one knows exactly what will come, but here is our best stab at a guide to the unknown ways that society—government, healthcare, the economy, our lifestyles and more—will change.

Link for the list

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Anything can be relatively minor. What is it being compared to

So, assuming I misquoted, does that make the point any less valid?

I quoted the "minor reasons", by choice, the relative to me was not a factor in my point, for the exact reason you just alluded too.

The fact other's choose to scream "out of context" is kind of irrelevant when the person who made the post started out from an imbecilic uneducated and racist starting point.

Now, let us hypothetically assume Shelly had started it like this:

"Where do you think the COVID-19 Virus is taking mankind? World War 3? Total breakdown of human society? Or just a bump in the road of history?"


That might have started a topic of discussion with some actual value, instead of wondering off into the abyss.

 

[HisArpy]

So, assuming I misquoted, does that make the point any less valid?

I quoted the "minor reasons", by choice, the relative to me was not a factor in my point, for the exact reason you just alluded too.

The fact other's choose to scream "out of context" is kind of irrelevant when the person who made the post started out from an imbecilic uneducated and racist starting point.

Now, let us hypothetically assume Shelly had started it like this:

"Where do you think the COVID-19 Virus is taking mankind? World War 3? Total breakdown of human society? Or just a bump in the road of history?"


That might have started a topic of discussion with some actual value, instead of wondering off into the abyss.

 

[dp4shelly]

Twisting words again?

WW1 was coming for thirty years before it actually started, dimbulb. Dozens of political and diplomatic alliances took place in a dance across the whole of Europe and beyond. As usual, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

You are correct that the conditions that fueled world war one were in the making for a long time. If you notice what I said was what "triggered" the war.

Likewise, the conditions that are being "triggered" by the China Virus have been in the mix for a long time. For example, globalization and the increased popularity of socialism. These toxic elements have set the stage for something like the China Virus to "trigger" a massive repercussion.

Just curious but why do you feel such a need to always attack the intellect of those that disagree with you? It makes you seem so insecure.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Umm, no she didn't. She said "RELATIVELY minor events". Shelly even pointed that out to you in a second post.

But hey, I hear CNN is hiring...

I'll bite, what's the difference between a relatively minor event and a minor event?

 

[HisArpy]

I'll bite, what's the difference between a relatively minor event and a minor event?

One is your kid getting caught shoplifting.

The other is your sister in law's kid getting caught shoplifting.

 

[schism666]

One is your kid getting caught shoplifting.

The other is your sister in law's kid getting caught shoplifting.

do you do probono work?

 

[HisArpy]

do you do probono work?

Sorry, not hiring.

 

[schism666]

are you guys ever going to decide if you're calling it the wuhan or chinese virus

 

[Fuzzy1975]

are you guys ever going to decide if you're calling it the wuhan or chinese virus

How about wuhan chinese take out?

 

[bunny4med]

How about wuhan chinese take out?

Can I get my bat extra crispy?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Can I get my bat extra crispy?

With a side of Fried Rice?

 

[dp4shelly]

Ignoring the key word

I am not twisting your words, you wrote "minor events", one such event that lead to WW1 was the assassination of Ferdinand, and his wife.

Once again your line or reasoning depends of leaving out the fact that I said relatively minor event. RELATIVELY MINOR is not the same as MINOR.

By way of contrast when JFK was killed there was a lot of global tension in the midst of the cold war and the issue of the USSR wanting to put nukes in Cuba. And yet the assignation did not trigger a world war.

I have studied world war one in detail. I don't think that killing anyone is a minor event. Not at all the point I was making nor would anyone reading the OP think that was the point I was making. You choose to ignore the word "relatively" in your first comment and even after I pointed it out you choose to quote my words with the word omitted again in this post. There is a reason you did that. Go look in the mirror and have a talk with yourself about your thirst to twist things, misrepresent others and then egotistically defend your twisted comment.

Either way, what I was focused on was the question of the domino effect that will come from this China Virus and not whether or not someone getting murdered is major or minor. All murder is horrible but not all murders, even of major leaders like JFK and RFK lead to world wars. Now do you get it?