Wife converts lesbian couple bi with help of husband

[TexMan324]

A wife witnesses an attractive lipstick lesbian couple passionately make out and feeling each other up in the park. The first time that came to the wife's mind is how this public display of affection between two women would be better if there was a man between them.

She meets and befriends the lesbian couple where they go have drinks at a winery. The couple reveals they're talking into inviting a man into their relationship and want to use a married man as a test.

The wife invites the two girls to her house where they get naked and have an all-girl three-way in the living room. The husband comes home to find his wife and the two girls laying nude side by side on the floor fingering themselves. The wife encourages her husband to join them and he strips naked.

The husband is having a threesome with the lesbian couple where he lies on his back with one girl riding his cock while another rides his tongue, all while his wife masturbates to the erotic scene. The wife then rides her husband to orgasm while he is between the two girls whom kiss and caress him.

One Year Later...

The husband and wife get a letter and a USB from the lesbian couple who are now bi and in a throuple relationship with a guy whom they were longtime friends with. The DVD is a homemade porno of the throuple having a threesome in public, which the husband and wife watch and jack off to together, where of course leads to sex

 

[Rob_Royale]

I would not throw that "convert" word around much. Every lesbian I've ever known has zero interest in guys. None. If a woman in a FF relationship would consider having sex with a man, she's somewhere on the bi spectrum, and she knows it. There's no epiphany "Oh hey I like dudes too!"

If a woman calls herself lesbian, she means it. And would be very offended by anyone suggesting she could be converted.

 

[JaxRhapsody]

Don't forget the scene where they have to turn in their badge, keys to the duty Forester and strap-ons(or some other funny thing) to the Lonestar chief.

 

[yukonnights]

Sorry Tex, but I'm in agreement with Rob Royal. He said it well and it shadows what I would have said had it not already been.

 

[DarkSollat]

If lesbians and a man are involved, my favorite is tgat they have zero interest in him except his cock - they just like a hard meat and use it to their pleasure without any regards to the rest of him. Especially if repetetive ooogia is included (out of one girl into another).

 

[AchtungNight]

I really don’t appreciate intolerance in any environment. Especially not from people who have been victimized by intolerance and should know better than to further it. Like lesbians or swingers. But to each their own.

My advice for the OP of this thread- have the wife talk to the couple before bringing them home. Be up front about what she has planned and confirm her targets’ bisexuality rather than force attraction on anyone. Show them a picture of her husband and a few relevant facts to make sure they find him attractive. Consent is sexier than non-consent- to me at least- and being up front fits my ethics more than hypocrisy and selfish conversion. You want me as a proud reader of your story, that’s my advice.

 

[LiverpoolMaster]

I would not throw that "convert" word around much. Every lesbian I've ever known has zero interest in guys. None. If a woman in a FF relationship would consider having sex with a man, she's somewhere on the bi spectrum, and she knows it. There's no epiphany "Oh hey I like dudes too!"

If a woman calls herself lesbian, she means it. And would be very offended by anyone suggesting she could be converted.

Interesting.

I call myself a heterosexual... and I 'mean it'. I wonder if I would take such offence at the OP suggesting a story (N.B. not real life) where heterosexuals might be 'converted to being bi'.

Is there by any remote chance more than a slight whiff of politically-correct hypocrisy hereabouts..? I for one am getting heartily sick of being reminded of the possible sensitivities of small minorities. It's getting to the stage where it's almost impossible to write or imagine anything without the risk of some tiny clique taking umbrage... or, possibly worse, someone not in that clique taking umbrage on their behalf and then presumably basking in the glow of all those brownie points...

 

[Brandnewbuddy]

Oh look, the most butthurt person is the person whining about other people pointing out how something might be offensive.

So to answer your question: yeah, there is a big difference between writing a story about a lesbian being converted and a straight guy finding out they’re bi.

Cause guess what? In real life you can be murdered for being gay. There are people who do “corrective rapes.” You can get the death penalty in some countries for being gay. In the USA there are conversion camps where parents can sign over their kids to get abused until they say they are straight or kill themselves and those places are legal.

So yeah there’s a fucking difference. So yeah, using terms like convert is kind of fucked up.

 

[AchtungNight]

Agreed. Using the term conversion is fucked up. At the same time there is such a thing as an awakening. This is when you read about something or learn about it through temptation or some other social experiment and consensually embrace it when you realize you’re ok with it. At no time do you force the lifestyle with which you are flirting on yourself or anyone else. If you tempt lesbians with bisexuality, you step away from them if they make clear they’re not into men. Same for monogamy vs polyamory, for another frequent conflict brought up by the OP. You invite others to a lifestyle, draw some clear lines for your behavior in support of such invitation, yada yada yada, you do not force consent on anyone ultimately. An experiment of this nature led me to polyamory over monogamy personally, if my partner was willing. That and various other social factors- I’m an introvert irl and I have various mental disorders that make it hard for women to get to know me. Or want to date me once they know me. I’m ultimately not into faking who I am is the main thing, and I’m extremely tolerant of various philosophies and opinions as long as one is liberal & practical about their interpretation and practices. Experimenting with tolerance and understanding through imaginary satire has awakened me to my full capacity for these things. I need to stop before I get too personal or passionate. I will do that by saying this. I’m not into gay sex. I know this because I’ve thought about it, and it doesn’t excite me. Not like straight sex does. But I know people whom it does excite- I don’t need to name examples- and I tolerate them being who they are. They don’t try to convert me, if they come too close to my line for such a thing I warn them and they back off. Or at least they have so far. This is a good thing. Sexual relationships should be consensual. I don’t need to say why.

I request that the OP base their stories on my understanding of the ideas I am expressing here if they want to make them good stories. Various polyamory manuals like “The Ethical Slut” can give you further ideas about where to draw lines as you explore this. Such lines exist for good reason- accept them. And if someone is willing to awaken themselves and step over the line, let them and rejoice. Same for yourself with your personal lines. Keep this in mind as you write please.

This post was carefully edited to avoid offending anyone. Hope it doesn’t. If so, let the consequences be on me, not the OP.

 

[000zing]

Interesting.

I call myself a heterosexual... and I 'mean it'. I wonder if I would take such offence at the OP suggesting a story (N.B. not real life) where heterosexuals might be 'converted to being bi'.

Is there by any remote chance more than a slight whiff of politically-correct hypocrisy hereabouts..? I for one am getting heartily sick of being reminded of the possible sensitivities of small minorities. It's getting to the stage where it's almost impossible to write or imagine anything without the risk of some tiny clique taking umbrage... or, possibly worse, someone not in that clique taking umbrage on their behalf and then presumably basking in the glow of all those brownie points...

Yes, a lot of brownie point seeking, superglueing self to bandwagons and outright sycophancy going on. Our age seems to be one where tolerance is the preserve of loud, self-proclaimed, offended minorities, not to be extended to anyone outside the group who will be seen, of course, as the enemy.

 

[DarkSollat]

You guys definitively read to much from it. Turning lesbian into hetero is one of the most popular male fantasy, nothing wrong with that.

Also, in erotica we have attempted rape, incest, con-non-con, barely legal and blasphemy (among others), and the topic here is the one you draw a line? Come on, chill out.

 

[wmbg]

I would not throw that "convert" word around much. Every lesbian I've ever known has zero interest in guys. None. If a woman in a FF relationship would consider having sex with a man, she's somewhere on the bi spectrum, and she knows it. There's no epiphany "Oh hey I like dudes too!"

If a woman calls herself lesbian, she means it. And would be very offended by anyone suggesting she could be converted.

It's a story to jerk off to. Calm down.

 

[wmbg]

I really don’t appreciate intolerance in any environment. Especially not from people who have been victimized by intolerance and should know better than to further it. Like lesbians or swingers. But to each their own.

My advice for the OP of this thread- have the wife talk to the couple before bringing them home. Be up front about what she has planned and confirm her targets’ bisexuality rather than force attraction on anyone. Show them a picture of her husband and a few relevant facts to make sure they find him attractive. Consent is sexier than non-consent- to me at least- and being up front fits my ethics more than hypocrisy and selfish conversion. You want me as a proud reader of your story, that’s my advice.

Grow up! You are on a fantasy sex site. We jerk off reading about sex.

 

[Rob_Royale]

It's a story to jerk off to. Calm down.

Well, if the OP had actually written anything, you'd be right.

 

[LupusDei]

Careful wording get you far. If it was "a woman, with help of her husband, helps a couple of lipstick lesbians to find out they are actually bisexual after all" the discussion could perhaps be going differently.

I personally believe that it's on a scale, with all the rational and irrational numbers on it, very few actually are in the very extremes, and the duality is social construct in effort to apply external control, as well as strong stated preferences, not unusually called to deny the internal uncertainties.

But just like food choices it's driven by experience in no less force than by allergies.

Long ago there was nothing better for me than white bread with tick butter and little salt. Well, maybe a little too much salt. But one day I found, as soon became evident, some spoiled butter in a tray lost in the back of the kitchen cupboard... yes it tasted a little funny, but one can eat anything with enough salt. Damn sure, I got sick real fast, really badly reacting to the poisoning. I avoided butter in any form and place for well over a decade afterwards. Now, I'm long over it, but it's rather indifferent, and never became the special treat it once was.

Did I say that intending a direct parable? Not really, but won't be offended if someone interpret it so.

 

[LiverpoolMaster]

You guys definitively read to much from it. Turning lesbian into hetero is one of the most popular male fantasy, nothing wrong with that.

Also, in erotica we have attempted rape, incest, con-non-con, barely legal and blasphemy (among others), and the topic here is the one you draw a line? Come on, chill out.

You said it. Couldn't agree more.

Unfortunately all of those things count for nothing in the eyes of people who think they can look cool in their PC denunciation of a single borderline word.
To me, that's what's 'kind of fucked up'.

 

[AchtungNight]

Consent is my kink. I make no apologies.

 

[sirhugs]

what if someone encounters them in the woods?

 

[GlennJenko]

Interesting.

I call myself a heterosexual... and I 'mean it'. I wonder if I would take such offence at the OP suggesting a story (N.B. not real life) where heterosexuals might be 'converted to being bi'.

Is there by any remote chance more than a slight whiff of politically-correct hypocrisy hereabouts..? I for one am getting heartily sick of being reminded of the possible sensitivities of small minorities. It's getting to the stage where it's almost impossible to write or imagine anything without the risk of some tiny clique taking umbrage... or, possibly worse, someone not in that clique taking umbrage on their behalf and then presumably basking in the glow of all those brownie points...

Ah yes, because being asked to be mindful of others is a bad thing.

Sarcasm aside, I personally agree that to me this doesn't seem like a good idea, but there are a lot weirder things on Lit than that.

I think for me personally it makes me feel weird for a couple of reasons.

The first is that it's a lot more likely for someone who believed themselves to be heterosexual to discover they may actually be bi, as being straight is seen as the norm and people may not realise they have other tendencies or know that what they're feeling is anything other than a facet of being straight. Compare that to a lesbian being "turned" bi. As said before, being straight is seen as the norm, so to realise that that doesn't describe you and figuring out you're actually gay is a massive step that often involves some level of experimentation to see what they really do prefer. To then claw that back and be like "nah I actually do like dick" doesn't seem that... I can't find right word - genuine(?) to me.

The other reason is that it kind of plays into the homophobic stereotype that lesbians "just need a good dick" to "fix" them. I want to make it abundantly clear that I'm not accusing you, OP or anyone else here who likes this idea of being homophobic. Just that when I see stuff like that, it's where my mind goes and why I'm really turned off from it. It makes me feel defensive and by the other comments I think I'm not the only one who feels that way.

But yeah, just my two cents.

 

[LiverpoolMaster]

And of course there's no difference at all between a natural concern (you can keep your new-speak 'mindfulness') for others and fawning sycophancy...

We now find ourselves in an artificial 'dictatorship of the minorities' situation. I for one can see the looming danger inherent in that.

 

[CuttingEdge]

What I see is a differing of writing styles. I think there are really three in this arena:

1. The group that tends to be more of a naturalist literary writer, and write things how they are. While most of porn videos and erotic writing can be summed up with, 'something that would NEVER happen in real life', as writers; this group tries to make it as plausible as possible.

2. The more whimsical, who think, 'this is just spank material anyway, so make up the most outlandish of things; people will still enjoy it because they are escaping a crazy real-world anyway'.

3. Kind of a cross between the two, who buy into Ray Bradbury's ideology that if you keep everything but one thing real, they will accept the strange fictional thing and enjoy the fictional short story immensely.

I am firmly in the first cited group, but it does not mean anything. Life would be boring if we all wrote plausible, erotic stories. In this situation, I agree with everyone. I have yet to meet a person who was lesbian or gay who did not show signs of gravitating in that direction early in their lives. But if a person writes a "conversion" story, I am not the Story Police and say it is wrong or should not be done. Do as you are led my writing friend.

Myself: even my published novels are out of vogue and aligned with the naturalist literary authors like Frank Norris, Mark Twain and Stephen Crane. My erotic stories try and follow suit and tend to be very plausible. But that is just my "writing voice". I deeply respect (and sometimes covet) the wordsmithing skills of more fanciful writers on here. My writing style is very limiting and I appreciate the works of others who can write about anything and everything.

 

[DarkSollat]

What I see is a differing of writing styles. I think there are really three in this arena:

1. The group that tends to be more of a naturalist literary writer, and write things how they are. While most of porn videos and erotic writing can be summed up with, 'something that would NEVER happen in real life', as writers; this group tries to make it as plausible as possible.

2. The more whimsical, who think, 'this is just spank material anyway, so make up the most outlandish of things; people will still enjoy it because they are escaping a crazy real-world anyway'.

3. Kind of a cross between the two, who buy into Ray Bradbury's ideology that if you keep everything but one thing real, they will accept the strange fictional thing and enjoy the fictional short story immensely.

I am firmly in the first cited group, but it does not mean anything. Life would be boring if we all wrote plausible, erotic stories. In this situation, I agree with everyone. I have yet to meet a person who was lesbian or gay who did not show signs of gravitating in that direction early in their lives. But if a person writes a "conversion" story, I am not the Story Police and say it is wrong or should not be done. Do as you are led my writing friend.

Myself: even my published novels are out of vogue and aligned with the naturalist literary authors like Frank Norris, Mark Twain and Stephen Crane. My erotic stories try and follow suit and tend to be very plausible. But that is just my "writing voice". I deeply respect (and sometimes covet) the wordsmithing skills of more fanciful writers on here. My writing style is very limiting and I appreciate the works of others who can write about anything and everything.

Nice classification of writers you got here, worth a sciencific paper. (I am no 2 btw.)

 

[GlennJenko]

And of course there's no difference at all between a natural concern (you can keep your new-speak 'mindfulness') for others and fawning sycophancy...

We now find ourselves in an artificial 'dictatorship of the minorities' situation. I for one can see the looming danger inherent in that.

Bringing up a term like "new-speak" as if you're George Orwell or something.

I also don't think the boot-licking argument holds any water. Watching out for/having concern for/being mindul of (whichever term is most acceptable for you) minorities is not 'fawning sycopancy', it's being a decent human being. History has shown time and time again that minorities are the ones most commonly and easily belittled and treated with disdain or outright hostility. Protecting them is crucial for such reasons.

You're right about one thing, though, which is that this "dictatorship of minorities" is artificial, but I suspect not in the way you meant, because it doesn't exist. What is a real danger, however, is the apathy far too many people have towards such issues. As Edmund Burke said, "the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". There are a lot of unjust things that have happened and keep happening because people did nothing and didn't show enough concern for others.

 

[DarkSollat]

Dudes, dudes... You're on the wrong forum. It's not a forum about society, or psychology, or anything like that. Here, we discuss erotica. Get back to it.

 

[LiverpoolMaster]

Dudes, dudes... You're on the wrong forum. It's not a forum about society, or psychology, or anything like that. Here, we discuss erotica. Get back to it.

If you look back, you will see that the social/psychological comment started right at the outset. I've said my twopenn'orth on the increasing prevalence of tokenism on these boards... and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who's becoming heartily sick of it. Being 'mindful' about the use of the word 'convert'... I mean, for God's sake...

No further interest.