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As an educator who sees regularly what marijuana does to promising young people, few things bother me more than the recent "legalization" of pot by some states with the federal government's collusion in refusing to enforce its own laws.

Some people claim marijuana is harmless, or even that it does more good than harm.

This report totally destroys that dangerous myth.

If you use pot, please read it!

 

As an educator who sees regularly what marijuana does to promising young people, few things bother me more than the recent "legalization" of pot by some states with the federal government's collusion in refusing to enforce its own laws.

Some people claim marijuana is harmless, or even that it does more good than harm.

This report totally destroys that dangerous myth.

If you use pot, please read it!


I'm with you empress. Hate weed, potheads, stoner culture, the whole thing.

Those are two different things, really. She's citing a bullshit report from a UK rag and you're just entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong.
 

As an educator who sees regularly what marijuana does to promising young people, few things bother me more than the recent "legalization" of pot by some states with the federal government's collusion in refusing to enforce its own laws.

Some people claim marijuana is harmless, or even that it does more good than harm.

This report totally destroys that dangerous myth.

If you use pot, please read it!


Stupidest post of the year. And that is with 4est and FahQue posting. Regularly.
 
It doesn't take a genius to know that pot isn't good for you but neither is riding a Brahma bull.
 
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Hmm, a report with a clickbait title and limited access to credible sources? I understand your fear, but cannabis falls into the category of fatty foods and TV: moderation is key. :)
 
Having to edit a post because you spelled "genius" wrong when disparaging another pister for being dumb is never not funny.
 
Having to edit a post because you spelled "genius" wrong when disparaging another pister for being dumb is never not funny.

That applies to most of you progressives. And I'm not talking about typos here.
For example:

Stupidest post of the year. And that is with 4est and FahQue posting. Regularly.

Her post makes a lot of sense. So does the article quoted.
Chronic use causes most people to become apathetic and to lose interest. Plus for those who already have the schizophrenic genes, it often triggers the onset of the illness at a much earlier age. Plus possible gateway to harder drugs.
Can you imagine the devastation of all these during one's formative years?
 
Her post makes a lot of sense. So does the article quoted.
Chronic use causes most people to become apathetic and to lose interest. Plus for those who already have the schizophrenic genes, it often triggers the onset of the illness at a much earlier age. Plus possible gateway to harder drugs.
Can you imagine the devastation of all these during one's formative years?

The issue is and has always been whether it is The State's place to make those types of decisions for us.
 
Those are two different things, really. She's citing a bullshit report from a UK rag and you're just entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong.
You guys are protesting too loud.

Why do I get the sense that you're a pothead?
 
The issue is and has always been whether it is The State's place to make those types of decisions for us.

That part is quite complex indeed. Plus if one starts comparing it with alcohol, it gets even more complicated

I'm just trolling the thread cause progressives in their full glory.
 
Hmm, a report with a clickbait title and limited access to credible sources? I understand your fear, but cannabis falls into the category of fatty foods and TV: moderation is key. :)

well, that and kids really shouldn't smoke it. there should definitely be a legal age on the shit. i smoked a bit as a teenager and don't regret it, but, honestly, teenage potheads are fucking morons.
 
well, that and kids really shouldn't smoke it. there should definitely be a legal age on the shit. i smoked a bit as a teenager and don't regret it, but, honestly, teenage potheads are fucking morons.

Do you think smoking pot makes you a better person?
 
The article from The Daily Mail (link provided by the OP: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...y-slams-drug-s-medical-benefits-unproven.html)
summarizes a report recently released by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine.
A few quotes:


"The report says that cannabis can almost certainly ease chronic pain, and might help some people sleep.
But it dismisses most of the drug's other supposedly 'medical benefits' as unproven.
--- Turning to potential harms, [and the article cites quite a few, this one being the most significant because it's ubiquituous and most supported by evidence]: 'Substantial evidence links pot smoking to worse respiratory symptoms and more frequent episodes of chronic bronchitis.'

The experts called for a national effort to learn more about marijuana and its chemical cousins, including similarly acting compounds called cannabinoids.

In fact, the current lack of scientific information 'poses a public health risk,' said the report.
Patients, health care professionals and policy makers need more evidence to make sound decisions, it said."
 
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For those who are truly interested;

The link to the actual report; http://nationalacademies.org/hmd/reports/2017/health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids.aspx

You might look at the list of sponsors on the right side bar. The report was intended to review current available data. The conclusions are based on the limited studies done to date, not some new study with the final answer. The major conclusion is that this substance merits further study. And there are known benefits for things such as chronic pain and multiple sclerosis .

As someone who lives in a state that respects a citizens right to cannabis, I know real people who have tried everything the Doc's can order with no relief...but a simple marijuana brownie works like a miracle. The report also mentions that no noticeable uptick in underage use has been noticed in states with open access.

I don't personally use any drug (including alcohol or nicotine) as I don't need it. But before making a rash and uneducated decision to continue classifying this substance as a class 1 substance, please take the time to try and gather some facts.


STUDY CONCLUSIONS

CONCLUSIONS FOR: THERAPEUTIC EFFECTS
There is conclusive or substantial evidencthat cannabis or cannabinoids are effective:
• For the treatment for chronic pain in adults (cannabis) (4-1)
• Antiemetics in the treatment of chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting (oral cannabinoids) (4-3)
• For improving patient-reported multiple sclerosis spasticity symptoms (oral cannabinoids) (4-7a)

There is moderate evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective for:
• Improving short-term sleep outcomes in individuals with sleep disturbance associated with obstructive sleep apnea
syndrome, fibromyalgia, chronic pain, and multiple sclerosis (cannabinoids, primarily nabiximols) (4-19)

There is limited evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective for:
• Increasing appetite and decreasing weight loss associated with HIV/AIDS (cannabis and oral cannabinoids) (4-4a)
• Improving clinician-measured multiple sclerosis spasticity symptoms (oral cannabinoids) (4-7a)
• Improving symptoms of Tourette syndrome (THC capsules) (4-8)
• Improving anxiety symptoms, as assessed by a public speaking test, in individuals with social anxiety disorders (cannabidiol)
(4-17)
• Improving symptoms of posttraumatic stress disorder (nabilone; one single, small fair-quality trial) (4-20)

There is limited evidence of a statistical association between cannabinoids and:
• Better outcomes (i.e., mortality, disability) after a traumatic brain injury or intracranial hemorrhage (4-15)

There is limited evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are ineffective for:
• Improving symptoms associated with dementia (cannabinoids) (4-13)
• Improving intraocular pressure associated with glaucoma (cannabinoids) (4-14)
• Reducing depressive symptoms in individuals with chronic pain or multiple sclerosis (nabiximols, dronabinol, and nabilone)
 
Where's a conspiracy theorist when you need one?

Of course the pharmaceutical companies wouldn't want some of us ditching their expensive drugs if a bit of the good green stuff will do you a world of good. ;)


BEFORE I get jumped - as a palliative caregiver I've seen marijuana help ease patients pain when nothing else has helped.


As a parent I say educate your children. Of course too much marijuana will fog their brains.
 
For those who are truly interested;

The link to the actual report; http://nationalacademies.org/hmd/reports/2017/health-effects-of-cannabis-and-cannabinoids.aspx

You might look at the list of sponsors on the right side bar. The report was intended to review current available data. The conclusions are based on the limited studies done to date, not some new study with the final answer. The major conclusion is that this substance merits further study. And there are known benefits for things such as chronic pain and multiple sclerosis .

As someone who lives in a state that respects a citizens right to cannabis, I know real people who have tried everything the Doc's can order with no relief...but a simple marijuana brownie works like a miracle. The report also mentions that no noticeable uptick in underage use has been noticed in states with open access.

I don't personally use any drug (including alcohol or nicotine) as I don't need it. But before making a rash and uneducated decision to continue classifying this substance as a class 1 substance, please take the time to try and gather some facts.


STUDY CONCLUSIONS

CONCLUSIONS FOR: THERAPEUTIC EFFECTS
There is conclusive or substantial evidencthat cannabis or cannabinoids are effective:
• For the treatment for chronic pain in adults (cannabis) (4-1)
• Antiemetics in the treatment of chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting (oral cannabinoids) (4-3)
• For improving patient-reported multiple sclerosis spasticity symptoms (oral cannabinoids) (4-7a)

There is moderate evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective for:
• Improving short-term sleep outcomes in individuals with sleep disturbance associated with obstructive sleep apnea
syndrome, fibromyalgia, chronic pain, and multiple sclerosis (cannabinoids, primarily nabiximols) (4-19)

There is limited evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are effective for:
• Increasing appetite and decreasing weight loss associated with HIV/AIDS (cannabis and oral cannabinoids) (4-4a)
• Improving clinician-measured multiple sclerosis spasticity symptoms (oral cannabinoids) (4-7a)
• Improving symptoms of Tourette syndrome (THC capsules) (4-8)
• Improving anxiety symptoms, as assessed by a public speaking test, in individuals with social anxiety disorders (cannabidiol)
(4-17)
• Improving symptoms of posttraumatic stress disorder (nabilone; one single, small fair-quality trial) (4-20)

There is limited evidence of a statistical association between cannabinoids and:
• Better outcomes (i.e., mortality, disability) after a traumatic brain injury or intracranial hemorrhage (4-15)

There is limited evidence that cannabis or cannabinoids are ineffective for:
• Improving symptoms associated with dementia (cannabinoids) (4-13)
• Improving intraocular pressure associated with glaucoma (cannabinoids) (4-14)
• Reducing depressive symptoms in individuals with chronic pain or multiple sclerosis (nabiximols, dronabinol, and nabilone)

Thanks for the link. Excellent one.

Whereas the medical benefits under clear guidelines and supervision are undoubtable, my take on it is that they made it available too soon for recreational use, before studying the matter thoroughly.

If I were a legislator, I would encourage legalizing it strictly for medical use but not for recreational use. Because you make readily available to people (particularly to young people) a drug of abuse, and they'll abuse it. Very few people are actually capable of real self-restraint, so you don't want to turn your country into a nation of potheads. Nevermind the other -even if far less significant compared to alcohol- side effects.
 
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