Why No Blue Tsunami?

[JackLuis]

Here are 5 reasons why the election wasn’t a Biden landslide despite a deadly pandemic and a brutal recession

Journalist Annie Lowrey analyzes the election results in an article published in The Atlantic that morning, offering some reasons why she believes the presidential election has been such a nail-biter despite the horrors of COVID-19 and the economic misery the pandemic has inflicted on so many Americans.

And Lowrey offers five reasons why “what should have been a gale-force headwind against Trump” turned out to be “little more than a breeze…. allowing the president to continue running on the strength of an economy that the coronavirus destroyed.”

Reason #1, according to Lowrey: “The general election occurred when the economy was bouncing back, not when it was falling apart.” And Reason #2, Lowrey says, is that “household finances have held up better than economic headlines would suggest.”

Lowrey’s third reason is that “the people most hurt by Trump’s horrific mismanagement of the federal public-health response and the ensuing economic fallout were more likely to be Democrats who were not voting for Trump in the first place.” And the journalist goes on to say, “More broadly, as a fourth factor, Americans seem not to blame Trump for the wreckage caused by the coronavirus or the ensuing recession, treating it more like an act of God than a product of policy choices.”

Lowrey’s fifth and final reason has to do with “how voters perceive the economy.

”One of the most accurate clichés about how Americans perceive the economy is that when your neighbor is unemployed, it’s a recession — and when you’re unemployed, it’s a depression. Feminists have often said that the personal is the political, and the personal is also economic. In other words, someone who is really feeling an economic downturn is more likely to worry about it than someone who isn’t. The 2020 COVID-19 recession pummeled many Americans, while others — as Lowrey notes — were unscathed.

Rural voters had not seen the Covid Up close as yet. They only felt the economic hit. Rural votes kept it close and Rural Rebellion is possible.

Can Moderate Joe rally the Rurals?

 

[Lazaran]

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Anyone whose analysis doesn't include the rioting and looting as a factor that hurt the Democrats chances for a "blue wave" can't be taken seriously.

GMAFB

 

[KeithD]

I don't think American voters are that thoughtful about their reasoning on voting. I think that, below the surface, far more Americans are as rotten and self-centered on emotional, knee-jerk issues as Donald Trump is than they'll admit to in public. I think the gun ownership issue has pointed to this for years. Even ones who are goody-two-shoes to the public pulled the Trump lever in the voting booth because there's something very basically wrong, cruel, prejudice, contrary, and threatened embedded in the American mind-set.

 

[JackLuis]

Maybe, but it was minor compared with the Economic rupture.

Few rednecks will cry over Urban areas torched.

 

[KeithD]

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Anyone who's analysis doesn't include the rioting and looting as a factor that hurt the Democrats chances for a "blue wave" can't be taken seriously.

GMAFB

Yeah, that too.

 

[butters]

the size of the blue wave seems smaller because trump turned out so many supporters of his own.

let's not forget biden's received more popular votes than any president in history, and this election has brought out such a mas sof voting either side

 

[KeithD]

The population is growing (despite the pandemic). There are more people of voting age with each passing election.

 

[Lazaran]

Maybe, but it was minor compared with the Economic rupture.

Few rednecks will cry over Urban areas torched.

Minor???

Trump beat that fucking horse to death and then kept riding it to the finish line.

It almost worked.

 

[magicalmoments]

Who can remember all the "snowflake" insults hurled at democratic supporters who were upset at impeached president trump's stealing of the election from Clinton back in 2016.

All those "hey, you lost, we won! get over it snowflake" comments from the now ranting and raving losers who have seen their beloved great leader go down the gurgler.

You know who you are... Snowflakes!

Be careful, you'll come down with a case of BDS.

 

[Lazaran]

Who can remember all the "snowflake" insults hurled at democratic supporters who were upset at impeached president trump's stealing of the election from Clinton back in 2016.

All those "hey, you lost, we won! get over it snowflake" comments from the now ranting and raving losers who have seen their beloved great leader go down the gurgler.

You know who you are... Snowflakes!

Be careful, you'll come down with a case of BDS.

Q: What is Orange Kool-Aid made from???

A: Melted Orange Snowflakes!!!

BWAHAHAHA............HA

 

[Dribble]

Who can remember all the "snowflake" insults hurled at democratic supporters who were upset at impeached president trump's stealing of the election from Clinton back in 2016.

All those "hey, you lost, we won! get over it snowflake" comments from the now ranting and raving losers who have seen their beloved great leader go down the gurgler.

You know who you are... Snowflakes!

Be careful, you'll come down with a case of BDS.

And if you don't like it...leave...

 

[nowisthetime]

the size of the blue wave seems smaller because trump turned out so many supporters of his own.

let's not forget biden's received more popular votes than any president in history, and this election has brought out such a mas sof voting either side

Absolutely!

He tapped into the lowest forms of human beings, the most hateful, racist, ignorant, disgusting ones. These folks usually sit out during election time, but he awakened them. They are a piece of work just like him, they see themselves in him, despite wanting to drag this country down to support such an inept conman.

Conversely, he is such an embodiment of evil and greed, that he motivated even MORE people, who also normally don't participate in elections, to vote his ass out. Twice he failed to earn the popular vote. People want normalcy now, they are tired of him and his bitch ass ways.

He has more haters than supporters. Usually presidential elections are boring and run of the mill, but the future of democracy is determined with this one.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Agreed. Terrified of the unruly black mob.

Other than that, they're just idiots. "I just relate to Trump more. He seems more real. He's not a politician. I don't trust Joe Biden."

I dont know how to argue with these people. They're just fekking hopeless fools.

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Anyone whose analysis doesn't include the rioting and looting as a factor that hurt the Democrats chances for a "blue wave" can't be taken seriously.

GMAFB

 

[Dribble]

Time to focus on positives. The system worked. Violence and intimidation was virtually non-existent. I was wrong to think it was broken. Just a part if it was broken...still is...but I was wrong about many people

 

[nowisthetime]

Agreed. Terrified of the unruly black mob.

Other than that, they're just idiots. "I just relate to Trump more. He seems more real. He's not a politician. I don't trust Joe Biden."

I dont know how to argue with these people. They're just fekking hopeless fools.

They are so stupid, come to find out, the ones behaving unruly were the rightwingers coming to cause trouble and frame peaceful protesters. More projection and gaslighting.

I am tired of being asked to understand these cretins. Why would I want to understand stupidity?

 

[thør]

Time to focus on positives. The system worked. Violence and intimidation was virtually non-existent. I was wrong to think it was broken. Just a part if it was broken...still is...but I was wrong about many people

Give it time.....

 

[ishtat]

Why no blue Tsunami Jack? Because the progressives generally, and Sanders in particular gave Trump a massive gift.

Trump used the fear of "Socialism" to win Florida, doubling the margin he had over Clinton. It caused damage elsewhere but not so obviously.

The Progressives should either, gravitate to the centre or, be got rid of. They present far too large and soft a target for the R's.

 

[Dingobaby]

Q: What is Orange Kool-Aid made from???

A: Melted Orange Snowflakes!!!

BWAHAHAHA............HA

https://i.redd.it/gusp3a1expx51.jpg

 

[Dribble]

Why no blue Tsunami Jack? Because the progressives generally, and Sanders in particular gave Trump a massive gift.

Trump used the fear of "Socialism" to win Florida, doubling the margin he had over Clinton. It caused damage elsewhere but not so obviously.

The Progressives should either, gravitate to the centre or, be got rid of. They present far too large and soft a target for the R's.

So....why do you not criticize the far right for not moderating to the center?

 

[rae121452]

quote: "no one ever went broke by underestimating the stupidity of the american public."

 

[SevMax2]

Why no blue Tsunami Jack? Because the progressives generally, and Sanders in particular gave Trump a massive gift.

Trump used the fear of "Socialism" to win Florida, doubling the margin he had over Clinton. It caused damage elsewhere but not so obviously.

The Progressives should either, gravitate to the centre or, be got rid of. They present far too large and soft a target for the R's.

Wrong. It was because a corporate, warmongering fossil like Biden failed to appeal to more populist sentiments among unions, black men, young people,
and Latino voters. Left proposals are popular though the socialist label isn’t.

 

[Lazaran]

So....why do you not criticize the far right for not moderating to the center?

The far right is a lost cause. Building out from the center in both directions and leaving the intractable zealots at both ends of the spectrum to pound sand is the only way to govern by consensus.

Fortunately, I believe the vast majority of the country believes in social justice reform, common sense gun laws, climate action, legal and safe access to women's reproductive health services, separation of church and state, addressing gross income inequality, etc.

If the aggrieved left works from inside the framework of a coalition government at this moment in time, they may find that most of their agenda is becoming mainstream. That probably won't sit well with those who need something to rage against, but for everybody else it would be a huge win.

Be wary of those who won't take yes for an answer, because they most likely have a personal agenda that involves self promotion and controlling the levers of power. They wouldn't be the first to do it. Case in point; Donald Trump.

 

[KeithD]

Wrong. It was because a corporate, warmongering fossil like Biden failed to appeal to more populist sentiments among unions, black men, young people,
and Latino voters. Left proposals are popular though the socialist label isn’t.

Biden has done just fine, and is the best possible answer for the current U.S. situation. That's not least because he doesn't gravitate to an extreme such as you exhibit.

 

[ishtat]

So....why do you not criticize the far right for not moderating to the center?

Firstly, because that was not Jack's original question. He asked why no blue wave?

Secondly, the far right, centre right, and allegedly moderate right, do not really have policies at all except to line their pockets and those of their donors.

The last detailed health policy for example which the GOP promulgated dated from 1956. What they do have is a strategy, ruthlessly identified and executed. That strategy is FEAR, fear of the new, fear of the unknown, fear of change. Then they label it, Socialism, Communism, Anti Americanism, whatever; they use their energy to make that mislabeling stick.

The best D approach in my view is to identify the R's as the greedy party the corrupt party, the party of backroom deals with their best friends. The D's should not however make the error of going into great policy detail (a la Warren) Detailed policies are easy targets. Biden has done the best he could have with the hand dealt to him. He has been consistent, reassuring, avoiding detail but promising a better deal for ordinary Americans. Above all he has not told lies.

Finally, I think there is a fundamental flaw in your apparent assumption that criticism of your opponent automatically wins votes. It can entrench opposition as much as change it.

The R's have run on fear for 20 years. It is important that the D's do not feed that fire. Biden has done a pretty good job of retaking the centre ground and I should say the further wings of his party have been fairly disciplined during the campaign.

Hope that helps.

 

[jaF0]

I said very early on, within hours of this choice, that Harris was a huge mistake. I know someone personally who changed their vote from D to orange because they believe that Joe would win, then resign to let Harris take the Office.