Why isn't the FBI monitoring/infiltrating Black Lives Matter?

[renard_ruse]

Why is this group, and other radical neo-black power groups, allowed to do whatever it wants with seemingly no government efforts to infiltrate or control it?

When you consider the extent to which they monitor and infiltrate even the most benign pro-white groups, Islamic groups, even the peace movement, and many other movements, why doesn't there seem to be any effort to infiltrate and monitor this movement?

After the cop killings, riots, and other violence associated with this movement, you would think it would be a no-brainer, but I guess not.

 

[Adre]

Why is this group, and other radical neo-black power groups, allowed to do whatever it wants with seemingly no government efforts to infiltrate or control it?

When you consider the extent to which they monitor and infiltrate even the most benign pro-white groups, Islamic groups, even the peace movement, and many other movements, why doesn't there seem to be any effort to infiltrate and monitor this movement?

After the cop killings, riots, and other violence associated with this movement, you would think it would be a no-brainer, but I guess not.

And you know this how?

 

[phrodeau]

Which cop killings are associated with BLM?

I looked it up. None of them.

 

[Bray123]

Surely the very nature of infiltration and monitoring means that you and I don't know anything of what's going on. Otherwise they would know what's going on and would alter the way that they're going on.

Or something like that.

 

[renard_ruse]

Which cop killings are associated with BLM?

I looked it up. None of them.

Typical liberal, play dumb. Oh, wait, you don't have to play dumb, you actually are.


BTW, I also deliberately said associated with, not committed by, though I could have. Clearly the killers were loosely associated, but I would argue they were most likely outright members, but didn't go that far in my statement.

 

[renard_ruse]

Surely the very nature of infiltration and monitoring means that you and I don't know anything of what's going on. Otherwise they would know what's going on and would alter the way that they're going on.

Or something like that.

The government spends a buttload of money infiltrating and monitoring ANY pro-white group, when black power groups have committed actual violence against the police and shut down freeways, rioted, etc.

Its simply a matter of fairness, to treat them at least the same way pro-white groups are treated, is it not?

 

[MichaelinChina]

Maybe the FBI has more important things to investigate.

 

[sr71plt]

Why is this group, and other radical neo-black power groups, allowed to do whatever it wants with seemingly no government efforts to infiltrate or control it?

Interesting that you would think you would know what group the FBI was infiltrating or not. Do you have no notion how silly that is?

 

[Aglaopheme]

The government spends a buttload of money infiltrating and monitoring ANY pro-white group, when black power groups have committed actual violence against the police and shut down freeways, rioted, etc.

Its simply a matter of fairness, to treat them at least the same way pro-white groups are treated, is it not?

Oh, you mean those crazy ranchers out in Oregon, Utah and Nevada. Like this one.

https://www.google.com/amp/gephardt...y-claim-ties-lavoy-finicum/amp/?client=safari

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah, June 24, 2016 (Gephardt Daily) — The leader of a Utah-based militia group was arrested by the FBI late Wednesday for the attempted bombing of a remote Bureau of Land Management facility in Mount Trumbull, Arizona.

According to a probable cause statement filed Wednesday by federal prosecutors in Salt Lake City’s U.S. District Court, William Keebler, 57, of Stockton, Utah was arrested just hours after he attempted to trigger what he thought was an explosive device placed at the door of BLM cabin.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Why is this group, and other radical neo-black power groups, allowed to do whatever it wants with seemingly no government efforts to infiltrate or control it?

Because that would be racism.

Black people and BLM should be able to do whatever they want or you're racist.

Hate crimes, vandalism, murder, assault.....that's all 'peaceful protest'.

Hell if they are Muslim we would probably knowingly let them keep kidnapped teen girls chained to walls as fuck toys for YEARS just like Scotland Yard did.

It's diversity!! Respect that culture or you're a misogynistic Islamophobic RACIST!

Which cop killings are associated with BLM?

I looked it up. None of them.

Dallas.

Maybe the FBI has more important things to investigate.

Like evil white males!!!

Oh, you mean those crazy ranchers out in Oregon, Utah and Nevada. Like this one.

https://www.google.com/amp/gephardt...y-claim-ties-lavoy-finicum/amp/?client=safari

Well....sure.

Not that I would consider burning down neighborhoods and committing hate crimes on a large scale the same thing as bombing a remote outhouse.

But close enough.

 

[Aquagal]

Why is this group, and other radical neo-black power groups, allowed to do whatever it wants with seemingly no government efforts to infiltrate or control it?

When you consider the extent to which they monitor and infiltrate even the most benign pro-white groups, Islamic groups, even the peace movement, and many other movements, why doesn't there seem to be any effort to infiltrate and monitor this movement?

After the cop killings, riots, and other violence associated with this movement, you would think it would be a no-brainer, but I guess not.

That would be unPC.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Because that would be racism.

Black people and BLM should be able to do whatever they want or you're racist.

Hate crimes, vandalism, murder, assault.....that's all 'peaceful protest'.

Hell if they are Muslim we would probably knowingly let them keep kidnapped teen girls chained to walls as fuck toys for YEARS just like Scotland Yard did.

It's diversity!! Respect that culture or you're a misogynistic Islamophobic RACIST!



Dallas.



Like evil white males!!!



Well....sure.

Not that I would consider burning down neighborhoods and committing hate crimes on a large scale the same thing as bombing a remote outhouse.

But close enough.

It was a play on BLM, but we both know that is not the only incident.

Others are correct. Who knows if the FBI is monitoring/infiltrating them or not. If they preceive them as a threat, they probably are.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It was a play on BLM, but we both know that is not the only incident.

I know.

But I still haven't seen any crazy white supremacy groups out behaving anything like we've gladly let BLM behave.

Certainly not under the bullshit label of 'peaceful protest' in an attempt to ignore the heinous acts committed in the name of the BLM cause. Had it been a white supremacy group behaving like that HO-Lee-Xiet duuu. Every SEAL team and drone we had to spare would have been in NC taking out genocidal haters.

Others are correct. Who knows if the FBI is monitoring/infiltrating them or not. If they preceive them as a threat, they probably are.

It's true. But if I were a betting man I'd bet the FBI doesn't touch BLM with a 20ft cattle prod.

It wouldn't be PC. They understand that BLM is the victim, all the time, every time, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Yeah......

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/3078194/images/n-WHITE-RIOTS-200x150.jpg

 

[NOIRTRASH]

The Great Push Back will be here in 5 weeks.

 

[LadyFunkenstein]

Easy answer. Because BLM is funded by those who in fact run our federal government i.e. the Puppet Masters. The FBI is an arm of the Puppeteers. (That said, the Useful Idiots ARE being monitored.. they will be gotten rid of once they are no longer useful)

If you think BLM has anything to do with with improving the lives of black people you have to be a straight up moron. It's a tool for social change indeed, but not the change anyone thinks.

Is this only obviious to me?

 

[Liar]

So once again, does anyone of you who decry that the FBI isn't monitoring BLM wanna offer anything to back up your assertion that they don't?

 

[BotanyBoy]

The Great Push Back will be here in 5 weeks.

No it wont. The people of the USA haven't had enough and they clearly want more of the same ol' shit.

A small minority is going to elect HRC and everything will keep rolling.

More wealth inequality.

More racial divide.

More wars domestically and abroad.

More destruction of upward mobility.

That's what America wants! The destruction of the USA to the fullest extent possible. We want corporate feudalism and we want to be ruled by the globalist elite.

It wouldn't in the least bit shock me to see a push for an end to our sovereignty and joining some global union so that a bunch of other countries get to control how Americans live.

That's progress!!

So once again, does anyone of you who decry that the FBI isn't monitoring BLM wanna offer anything to back up your assertion that they don't?

No decry.

Just a sneaking suspicion that BLM could bomb 20 federal buildings tomorrow and CNN/MSN/CBS/Salon etc would all consider it peaceful protesting and NOTHING would be done about it.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Easy answer. Because BLM is funded by those who in fact run our federal government i.e. the Puppet Masters. The FBI is an arm of the Puppeteers. (That said, the Useful Idiots ARE being monitored.. they will be gotten rid of once they are no longer useful)

If you think BLM has anything to do with with improving the lives of black people you have to be a straight up moron. It's a tool for social change indeed, but not the change anyone thinks.

Is this only obviious to me?

All one has to do is read their website...



The ranchers are fighting to keep their way of life, #BLM is fighting for a separate state.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No it wont. The people of the USA haven't had enough and they clearly want more of the same ol' shit.

A small minority is going to elect HRC and everything will keep rolling.

More wealth inequality.

More racial divide.

More wars domestically and abroad.

More destruction of upward mobility.

That's what America wants! The destruction of the USA to the fullest extent possible. We want corporate feudalism and we want to be ruled by the globalist elite.

It wouldn't in the least bit shock me to see a push for an end to our sovereignty and joining some global union so that a bunch of other countries get to control how Americans live.

That's progress!!



No decry.

Just a sneaking suspicion that BLM could bomb 20 federal buildings tomorrow and CNN/MSN/CBS/Salon etc would all consider it peaceful protesting and NOTHING would be done about it.

She had them at free college...



To the puppets and the puppeteers, that is an unavoidable siren's call.

 

[Darbhinder]

It was a play on BLM, but we both know that is not the only incident.

Others are correct. Who knows if the FBI is monitoring/infiltrating them or not. If they preceive them as a threat, they probably are.

Of course they are monitoring them. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a total dumbass.

 

[Darbhinder]

No it wont. The people of the USA haven't had enough and they clearly want more of the same ol' shit.

A small minority is going to elect HRC and everything will keep rolling.

More wealth inequality.

More racial divide.

More wars domestically and abroad.

More destruction of upward mobility.

That's what America wants! The destruction of the USA to the fullest extent possible. We want corporate feudalism and we want to be ruled by the globalist elite.

It wouldn't in the least bit shock me to see a push for an end to our sovereignty and joining some global union so that a bunch of other countries get to control how Americans live.

That's progress!!



No decry.

Just a sneaking suspicion that BLM could bomb 20 federal buildings tomorrow and CNN/MSN/CBS/Salon etc would all consider it peaceful protesting and NOTHING would be done about it.

#TJW.

 

[Paul_Chance]

Laws differentiate between infiltrating groups and attending public rallies and events undercover - perfectly permissible and most likely a common occurrence during assorted BLM type events. Undercover agents are most likely in attendance at every riot/rally you see on television and probably many of the ones you don't.

LEO's may use established informants inside of groups (walk-ins) based on the credibility and case history of the informant. The legal threshold for this type of informant is entirely the credibility of the informant. "X came in and told us Group A is planning to incite a riot, X is a long time member of Group A and expressed concern about potential loss of life."

"Infiltration" means two things legally - it means active recruitment of a group member as an informant (turning someone) and insertion of a known informant or undercover agent. In order to do this, they must first have evidence that that group, as a sanctioned group activity, has either committed crimes or is actively planning to commit crimes.

The other thing to keep in mind is the difference between intelligence gathering and law enforcement action (arrest, citation, etc.). It is not unusual for law enforcement agencies to separate the intelligence gathering activities from law enforcement activities with a firewall of some sort, so the ordinary personnel have no idea who is an informant or undercover agent.

I don't doubt for a moment that law enforcement has pretty thoroughly infiltrated both the demonstrations and the core group. Most likely, five years from now the news will come out that some of BLM's top leaders were informants all along.

 

[sr71plt]

Of course they are monitoring them. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a total dumbass.

Obviously that includes a lot of zanies who post here.

 

[BotanyBoy]

#TJW.

Mad cuz it's true.