Why is it that those who have pursued higher education appear

Im a freakin construction worker baby. What does condescending mean? Dont think you will turn me on with your big words. Your AV is a different story.
 
we're pissed off about he amounts of money we've spent to get this education, so we have to take it out on someone.

p.s. - It's a joke, people! :rolleyes:
 
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People who went to college automaticly assume they are smarter, better and of a higher social standing because, traditionaly, thats what they have been told. of course you'll find this more prevelant on the masters and doctors scale than the B.S. people.

Remember, College also enables you to earn more money. not because your any better at doing a job but because you've proven you can put up with a load of shit for 4 years and stick to it.. as well has have the absolute basic knowledge yo need to perform. which also affects the look down syndrome.
 
I hope I don't come across that way. Whether or not someone pursues an education is an individual choice that each person must make, and sometimes, it's beyond control. I'm in uni, through the generosity of my parents, to some point, and now through my own hard work, and I hope to go much farther with my education, hopefully earning a PhD... but I know plenty of people who chose not to enter uni, who are much more intelligent and artistic, and cool, and just... people I admire and sometimes envy...

What matters in the end is what's in the heart, not the head.
 
Possibly because education expands the vocabulary and the knowledge base. They may appear to be condescending when they aren't any such thing. They're just being themselves. They just happen to use more words and more knowledge when they communicate.

For instance, if someone made referenece to, oh, Plato's Allegory of the Cave in normal conversation it can be considered condescending because that person has to explain it to the people who don't fully understand it. Those that didn't have that knowledge to begin with will feel as if the one who did is just trying to show everyone how smart s/he is and others are not. This isn't usually the case. This person just has a larger frame of reference to draw from.


I don't think any less of anyone with less education than I've got.
 
People know more of what they know then I know, and I know more about what I know then they. That's how we learn, by listening to them. People who have degrees have spent time learning alot about what they know.
 
*bratcat* said:
:p My words worked on you before.

Condescending is when it appears as though another person is talking to you like you are a dolt and don't know anything. They act all superior because they think they know more than you do.


Oh. Thanks.


Why do all the highly educated people have such trouble setting clocks on VCRs and using pay-at-the-pump gas stations?
 
*bratcat* said:
An honest answer...I haven't noticed you doing that.

I didn't think so.

The person I look down on more than anyone else in the world is myself. Education doesn't make you a better person in itself, it's all in what you do with it.
 
I have found in my lifetime of working in the trenchs that there are 'college boys' and college educated people. 'College boys' tend to think they are all that and a box of chocolate too. They tend to make real bonehead mistakes and then try to blame others for their idiocy. I have worked with some real great engineers and usually they are pretty good people once you get to know them. College boys will always be just that, childish and immature. Oh, btw, girls can be college boys too. I have only dealt with one like that though. Almost all the women engineeers I have dealt with have been very professional and pretty intelligent too.

I have been a machinist and millwright for most of my life and sometimes surprise them with my skills. Not that big of a deal since a machinist and millwright have to deal with higher math skill all of the time. :D
 
KillerMuffin said:
Possibly because education expands the vocabulary and the knowledge base. They may appear to be condescending when they aren't any such thing. They're just being themselves. They just happen to use more words and more knowledge when they communicate.

For instance, if someone made referenece to, oh, Plato's Allegory of the Cave in normal conversation it can be considered condescending because that person has to explain it to the people who don't fully understand it. Those that didn't have that knowledge to begin with will feel as if the one who did is just trying to show everyone how smart s/he is and others are not. This isn't usually the case. This person just has a larger frame of reference to draw from.


I don't think any less of anyone with less education than I've got.

I think that KM is on to something here. Condescension is a two-way street. The person who feels condescended to must allow themselves to be put in that position. Of course, there are people (with university degrees and without) who make a habit of condescending to people, but there is found the opposite phenomenon - people (with university degrees and without) who will always *assume* that they are being spoken down to. If someone tells you that they are proficient in 5 languages - and this is a fact - do you automatically assume that they are condescending when they insert their knowledge of a related topic into a conversation (e.g. the correct conjugation of an irregular French verb).?
 
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SaintPeter said:
Of course not. You have a PHD in Yummy from the Saint Peter University.
heh!

okay, I went to school after HS, but it was art school and culinary school and school of hard knocks.

It's not your schooling, it's how you use it.

Sophomoric sanctimonity<is this a word?> does nothing for me.
And people wanna get in my pants, so they treat me very well.
 
I don't look down on people who don't go to college. However, I have been told by people who didn't that they get irritated because I use big words. I go to grad school where I have to use big words...when you're going for a masters degree people expect you to use words like inculcate and ambivalence and other large words. Because I use them all the time, they slip into my regular conversation. That isn't condescension. It's forgetting that not everyone uses the jargon all the time or is familiar with it.
 
Hmmm...good question bratcat, one I haven't even considered before.

I have a college education, and yes, I'm proud of it but if I seem to flaunt it (do I?), I can assure you that it's not intentional. Maybe KM has it right. Maybe it's no more than a matter of vocabulary and knowledge base rather than true intent of putting others down.

I work in a field, by the way, that is absolutely dependent upon non-college degreed personnel. I have the greatest respect for the techs that work alongside me. They've saved my ass many times, and I always let them know how much I appreciate that.
 
The only time I get irritated is when those individuals won't listen to experience and insist that their way is the only way for something to work. I have so many times had to do things several to a whole lot of times over because the educated person wouldn't listen to the experienced people telling them that something won't work that way. Eventually proven right is not as good of a victory as having done it right the first time and not over and over again.

This happens more than one thinks and sometimes it gets real irritating. I have learned how to couch my talk in order to show the reasons why, but even then they will sometimes push on. I just hate doing things over and over, once should be enough. The older I get the harder it is to stand there and see them stupidly pushing on for impossible results. College boys.


Whoa, I had a rant going there, sorry. :(
 
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