Why don't Democrats walk thier talk?

[pdx39]

I see a lot of things on the Democratic party platform that I like....Progressive Taxes, Universial Health Care, Living Wages, Public Financing of Elections, Equal Rights, Ending Corporate Welfare, Industrial Hemp, etc... The problem is that I never see any of this stuff happening when they are in charge.

Bill Clinton ran on a platform of Universial Health Care, Progressive Taxes, and Campaign Finance Reform in 1992. He was in power for eight years and couldn't live up to his talk. During his tenure, the number of uninsured Americans increased by 10 million, the number of DC lobbists skyrocketed over 400%, and corporate welfare subsidies went up to $200 billion a year.

It looks like the Democrats are sold out to the same corporations that already have the Repubicans as lap dogs. Who are progressive minded people supposed to vote for when Al Gore agrees with George W Bush on nationwide TV about raising Star Wars funding, stepping up the war on drugs, and denying equal rights to gays?

I want to see the Democratic platform become a reality, but I no longer have faith in the Dems to do the right thing. I see most of these items I like are also in the platforms for the Green and Socialist Parties. Should I throw my support behind a small party I believe in that has next to no chance of getting people elected, or should I support the Dems and fall victem to lesser evil syndrome, voting for the bad in order to stop the worse?

 

[Unclebill]

Originally posted by pdx39
I want to see the Democratic platform become a reality, but I no longer have faith in the Dems to do the right thing. I see most of these items I like are also in the platforms for the Green and Socialist Parties. Should I throw my support behind a small party I believe in that has next to no chance of getting people elected, or should I support the Dems and fall victem to lesser evil syndrome, voting for the bad in order to stop the worse?

I'm really curious as to what you preceive as the beneficial aspects of a society in slavery.

 

[Moridin187]

Re: Re: Why don't Democrats walk thier talk?

I'm really curious as to what you preceive as the beneficial aspects of a society in slavery.

Damn.. Why is it everytime I see you post (You're the first intelligent fervent rightie I've met in my life) I'm always too tired for a good debate?

 

[Problem Child]

You thought Clinton was honest, had integrity, and would really do what he promised?

That's rich. Don't feel bad though, a lot of other people did too.

 

[swavedave]

Eat The Rich

I am a union man, and when slick Willy was gettin' head in the White House we all had jobs.
I make a paltry 75,000 with much overtime.
You must make way more than me to be a Republican.
That 500 bucks GDub gave everyone was a great thing huh?
The economy is down the tubes, since the Republicans took over.
Hasn't been this bad since the Reagan years.
At least they have a good idea where Bin Laden is. It has been even tougher to find his Brother Bin workin'. No one has seen him.
You Guys are Good

 

[Guest]

Re: Eat The Rich

The economy is down the tubes, since the Republicans took over.
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clinton gore slowdown started way before then. Go look at you 401k

 

[Guru]

 

[InnesLane]

Re: Re: Re: Eat The Rich

I'm sure glad "Unregistered" was here to raise the intellectual level of this discussion.

laughing my proverbial ass off - what a great one-liner!

 

[pdx39]

Here we go again

I'm really curious as to what you preceive as the beneficial aspects of a society in slavery.

Some of the 'beneficial aspects of a society in slavery' would include better funding for schools and public works, eliminating corporate polluter influence over politics, better public health, reducing child poverty, ending all discrimination, and enviromental protection.

I'm not surprised that a hard core die hard Libertarian would equate Progressive Taxes, Universial Health Care, Living Wages, Public Financing of Elections, Equal Rights, Ending Corporate Welfare and Industrial Hemp as being slavery.

Aren't you the same guy who told me to emigrate it I didn't agree with the 'freedom' of ending all controls on wages, prices, rents, profits, interest rates, stocks, free trade and banks?

Your idea of 'freedom' is to end anti-trust laws, the FDIC, work place safety regulations, corporate income taxes, and government subsidies for public education.

Could you please explain the 'beneficial aspects' of a Libertarian society to me now? I want to know all about how wonderful it will be when third graders have the 'freedom' to work in asbestos mines for 12 cents an hour.

 

[SINthysist]

swavedave,
I have been talking about an econimic slowdown long before Bush was elected. Look at how the Libs howled when during the election, Bush used the"R" word.

The truth is, Bill was only interested in "being" president and didn't really pay attention to anything until it was kinda in crisis stage, even then he did only what polling data said what was popular.

He was let us say, asleep at the wheel. But then, so were most of the Union people and others who voted for him. You should have made sure he walked the talk if that was what you really wanted. Complacency has a very low rate of return.