Why Do We Hate Them?

krastner

more experienced than you
Joined
Oct 19, 2004
Posts
2,950
The last line of this article is the most chilling. To ask that people, like the islamiphobes on this forum is like asking for a miracle. Posters like gringass and his
merry faggots of alts and many others are incapable of rational reasonable thought. Guess they will have to be eliminated befoore there is world peace.

Why Do We Hate Them?
Fear and Loathing In The Occident
By Jason Miller
8-17-6

Islamophobia is a mental and spiritual affliction. And our Western ruling elites bear the responsibility for inflicting it upon the psyches of the masses.

Now that the Stalinist/Maoist regimes have collapsed or evolved toward capitalism and no fascist states with imperial ambitions exist (besides the United States and its few allies), the American Empire needed to find a new "enemy" to replace Stalinists and Nazis. Much of the soft power employed by the leaders of America's "top down democracy" stems from psychological manipulation of "the mob". Mobilization of the masses against a common enemy "threatening the very existence of the American Way" has long been a staple in the United States' ruling elites' ongoing push to monopolize the world's wealth, power, and prestige.

And who better to vilify than Islamic people? Many are dark-skinned and live in developing nations, meaning their lives are inconsequential in the prevailing moral calculus of the West. The Middle East is predominately Islamic, its sands are oozing with crude oil, and it is home to Israel. From the perspective of the Empire, what better region to target than the Middle East?

And whether one believes that 9/11 was a false flag operation perpetrated by the US government or the work of radical Islamic Fundamentalists, the members of the Bush Regime obviously shed their crocodile tears publicly while privately celebrating the event as their Pearl Harbor. 3,000 civilian deaths and the demolition of a powerful symbol of the Western "value" of avaricious Capitalism whipped the American public into a furor against the "evil Muslims" who "hate our freedoms".

Never mind the fact that the United States and Israel have undertaken a nearly unparalleled program of military aggression and ethnic cleansing throughout the Middle East since the formation of the illegitimate colonial nation in Palestine. Given the premises for founding Israel, someone needs to remind Great Britain and the United States that it is incumbent upon them to create a homeland for homosexuals and Romani people. After all, they were also Holocaust victims and are people without a nation. And like the Palestinians, the other inhabitants of the Middle East are more akin to animals than human beings. So why not establish two more colonies on their land?

On August 13, Sixty Minutes aired a segment that revealed a great deal about Islamophobia and the role the corporate media plays in its proliferation.

In his recent open letter to Mike Wallace, Michael K. Smith declared:

Your interview with Iranian Prime Minister Ahmadinejad was a disgrace to the journalistic profession. You began with the condescending manner of a school principal lecturing the class clown for immature behavior and squandered the entire interview on hypocritically accusatory questions. If gall were an Olympic sport, you'd take the Gold Medal.

Michael made some fine points throughout his letter. However, I opine that he was too generous when he called Wallace's vituperative verbal assault an interview. What I witnessed was Mike Wallace, the Ugly American. Brimming with contempt, impatience, hubris, and belligerence, he more closely resembled the Grand Inquisitor than a journalist.

Did Wallace truly fail to grasp that he was acting as an apologist and cheerleader for bellicose, heartless, and ruthless perpetrators of war crimes on behalf of Israel, and thus is a Zionist (as Ahmadinejad suggested)? Through its grossly biased coverage of the "War on Terrorism" and mindless perpetuation of the inane myth that Israel has the right to annihilate an unlimited number of civilians to protect its "right to exist", CBS News has joined the squad of corporate media cheerleaders which has been shamelessly complicit in the Empire's egregious crimes against humanity. I submit that one can be a Zionist and a journalist. Mike Wallace is living proof.

Yet in spite of Wallace's tenacious efforts, the "devil incarnate", Ahmadinejad, remained composed. At times Ahmadinejad seemed to thoroughly enjoy Wallace's obvious "flustration" in attacking him from what has become an absurdly untenable position, both morally and logically. For those of us who don't believe the Western media fairy tale that the United States is a force for good engaged in a noble struggle in its bid to rid the world of the evil of Islam and defend Israel's "right to exist", Wallace's ill-fated attempt to expose the malevolence of the "enemy" was quite entertaining.

Just as Wallace scrambled madly in a hopeless attempt to prevail intellectually in his interrogation of Ahmadinejad, the debt-ridden, aging American Empire and its allies are flailing wildly in a desperate attempt to claim military victory in the Middle East. And like Ahmadinejad, those who comprise the resistance to occupation and exploitation in the Middle East are facing down their occupiers with a deft persistence, filled with a confidence born from the knowledge that recent history has not been kind to imperial invaders facing a people determined to expel them (i.e. Vietnam, Lebanon, and Iraq).

In the perverse worldview of the Neocons, Israel, and AIPAC, Iran is considered to be a part of the "Axis of Evil". Since Wallace championed the cause of the "benevolent" United States in his Sixty Minutes interrogation of the leader of one of the members of the "Axis", it is instructive to consider the "evils" Iran and resistance groups like Hamas and Hezbollah have perpetrated.

While various resistance groups in the Middle East have certainly committed war crimes by killing civilians, the "leader of the free world" and its counterpart in Palestine have annihilated hundreds of thousands more civilians than have the so-called "terrorists".

Yes, militant Fundamentalist Islamic individuals wield much of the power in Iran. But let's put on our thinking caps to discern how that situation evolved. In 1979 hard-line anti-American Islamic clerics assumed control of the Iranian government when they ousted the Shah (the corrupt US puppet who tortured and killed tens of thousands of Iranian "dissidents" during his reign of terror). Ironically, the Iranian government the United States loves to hate exists because the CIA and MI6 facilitated the Shah taking power from Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953. The significance? Mossadegh was a democratically-elected secular prime minister who had had the audacity to nationalize the oil industry because the British oil companies were grossly exploiting the Iranian people. By acting in typical fashion (by taking out a populist leader and replacing him with a vicious tyrant), the United States provided an incubator for powerful anti-American sentiment. Thus the United States and Great Britain are responsible for the theocracy in Iran which they fear and despise.

Corporate media pundits like Michelle Malkin and Anne Coulter are the vanguards in spreading pernicious distortions which fan the rapidly spreading emotional flames of fear, prejudice, and hatred comprising Islamophobia. Two of the most disturbing and inflammatory perversions of the truth the Western media entities disseminate are that all adherents of the Islamic faith are radical fundamentalists and that Sharia Law is universally harsh and grossly inferior to the Empire's system (which provides "liberty and justice for all").

Just as Christianity encompasses a broad spectrum of people with varying ways of practicing and expressing their faith, the Islamic world is filled with human beings who have diverse ways of expressing their religious beliefs. There are liberal, moderate, and Fundamentalist Muslims. And surprising as it may seem, most practitioners of Fundamentalist Islam, like most Fundamentalist Christians, are essentially peaceful individuals. In fact, a Muslim truly following the tenets of Islam practices moderation and tolerance. Many Muslims are no more willing to strap plastic explosives to their belts for a suicide mission than most Christians would be to bomb an abortion clinic. There are radicals from both religions, but they are very much in the minority.

Another lie deeply embedded in the barrage of communications we receive from the Western corporate media is that the United States and its allies are morally superior to the "evil Muslims". One aspect of Islam they offer as "proof" of this faulty conclusion is that many Islamic nations incorporate Sharia into their legal systems. While Sharia can involve harsh and rigid forms of justice, it exists to varying degrees in the many Muslim nations around the globe. Judiciaries in Islamic nations manifest the influence of Sharia in ways that span the spectrum from extremely dogmatic to highly secular and liberal.

While the Western media's blistering criticism of the more draconian actions of some Islamic nations (i.e. Iran's execution of teenagers) is definitely warranted, the Empire has a great deal of house-cleaning to do before it is in a position to preach to other nations on human rights issues.

Here are but a few recent examples of the United States' own flagrant human rights abuses:

1. carrying out quite a number of its own executions in a manner recently discovered to inflict a great deal of suffering on the victim

2. routinely torturing and suspending justice for suspected "enemy combatants"

3. funding the Israeli Apartheid and ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians

4. occupying a nation where it has killed over a million Iraqi civilians since the Gulf War invasion (through brutal economic sanctions and military actions).

5. funding the Israeli devastation of Lebanon

6. supporting numerous ruthless and murderous regimes (as long as they are friendly to US corporations)

7. having cynically embraced Saddam Hussein as an ally (knowing of his crimes against humanity) when it furthered US interests and invading Iraq preemptively to topple him when he ceased to be useful.

8. having kept the House of Saud in power for years despite its harsh practice of Sharia (i.e. thieves' hands are severed and adulterers are stoned).

9. maintaining the largest prison population in the world through a legal system so unjust that 50% of those incarcerated are Black when Blacks comprise 14% of the general population.

10. engaging in numerous outright massacres of civilians (i.e. Haditha, Fallujah)

In light of the above, how long will it be before a significant portion of the Muslim population falls prey to an extreme prejudice against all Westerners called Anglo-Christophobia? Let's hope it does not happen any time soon.

Speaking of Christians (at least the Fundamentalist ones), their demonization of Islam is actually rather amusing. Christian Fundamentalists share more common ground with the extreme members of the Islamic faith than they perhaps realize. Some Muslim nations treat homosexuality as a crime. Abortion is illegal in virtually every circumstance throughout much of the Middle East. Separation of church and state does not exist in nations like Iran. Implementation of the death penalty is common in the Middle East. How can men like John Hagee reconcile their cognitive dissonance in advocating war against Iran, a model of the theocracy they strive to implement in the United States?

CBS, Mike Wallace and the rest of the United States' corporate media can continue to do the Empire's bidding from now until the world comes to an end (which may not be as far away as I make it sound if sanity and humanity do not prevail over greed, ignorance, and hatred). However, their nearly endless bombardment of intelligently crafted lies readily distributed to nearly every corner of the globe are powerless to alter the truth.

In truth, Israeli and American lives are no more precious than those of the Arab and Persian human beings populating the Middle East. And neither the United States/Israel/Great Britain nor the nations and groups comprising the resistance in the Middle East are innocent of the deep transgression of murdering innocents. Each nation or group also commits human rights abuses against its own people in some fashion. However, Western exploiters and invaders are culpable of far more frequent and grievous war crimes than the Middle Easterners who are defending themselves, their resources, and their people.

If the majority of the human beings controlling the corporate media had a shred of moral decency they would focus their efforts on informing their viewers, listeners, and readers of the vast number of war crimes committed by Israel and the United States. They would start portraying the "terrorists" as the resistors of oppression they truly are. They would make a distinction between the various Middle Eastern resistance groups' legitimate attacks on their occupiers' militaries and the war crimes they commit against civilians. And they would devote most of their remaining substantial resources to the inundation of news consumers with stories, photos and video footage depicting the tragic and gruesome civilian suffering and death.

As it is, the Western corporate media shamelessly serve the Neocons by perpetuating a virtually endless cycle of hatred and violence. They incite and feed Islamophobia and they fabricate a plethora of false justifications for the malevolent actions of Israel and the United States. But then in a fascist nation, corporations are wedded with the state, militarism is the state's primary focus, scapegoats and enemies are essential, and the function of the Fourth Estate is to provide the propaganda to control the masses.

Just imagine if the mainstream media in the United States actually began fulfilling its role (in what is ostensibly a free society) and acted as a check on our government rather than its accomplice. If more Americans knew more truth, instead of hating Islamic people and pushing to intensify the war in the Middle East, the masses would be demanding that reason, justice, and peace prevail. They would demand that the United States completely withdraw its military from the Middle East and leave Israel to stand on its own, which would force the Israelis to finally settle the Palestinian issue in a just manner and to cooperate with their neighbors as equals.

If the major media entities of the West were living up to their responsibilities as members of the Fourth Estate, perhaps 3 year old Ali Ahmad Hashim of Qana would not have been bombed to death, the members of the Ghalia family would not have been obliterated on a Gaza beach, 76 year old wheel-chair bound amputee Abdul Hamid Hassan Ali would not have been massacred at Haditha, Cindy Sheehan would not be grieving for a son lost to a war of imperial aggression, and Reuven Levy of Haifa would not have been annihilated by a rocket attack as he was doing his job for Israel Railways.

I am not holding my breath waiting for money-driven enablers of war like Rupert Murdoch to start heeding the advice of Jiminy Cricket. However, I will not succumb to their assault of malicious distortions. I refuse to fear, hate, or consider myself at war with 20% of the world's population simply because they choose to follow the teachings of the Qur'an.

Islamophobia is an intellectual and spiritual malignancy. Reason and humanity are the cures.

Jason Miller is a 39 year old sociopolitical essayist with a degree in liberal arts and an extensive self-education (derived from an insatiable appetite for reading). He welcomes responses at willpowerful@hotmail.com or comments on his blog, Thomas Paine's Corner, at http://civillibertarian.blogspot.com/.
 
The truly chillling thing is that militant "christians" are try to get the world into a war with Islam for their own egotistical agenda. If we do not stand up for islam then one day these same militant " christians" will be telling us what church to go to (theirs) what form of religion we can worship (theirs) all so these little insecure creatures can be sure that they are the only ones in the world that are right because they will have wiped out all disent. Now that's chilling.
 
Islamophobia is an intellectual and spiritual malignancy. Reason and humanity are the cures.

I couldn't agree more. The sooner the Islamofascists assimilate the Enlightenment and jettison their 7th century weltanschauung, the better off the world will be.
 
Gringao said:
Islamophobia is an intellectual and spiritual malignancy. Reason and humanity are the cures.

I couldn't agree more. The sooner the Islamofascists assimilate the Enlightenment and jettison their 7th century weltanschauung, the better off the world will be.


you gave krusty too many words to look up with that one
 
Why is that people who rant on and on about {insert social group here}-o-phobia leave at the most basic fact that actually explains why that kind of o-phobia occurs?

It's very, very simple. Human beings are pack animals. Troop animals. Whatever. We clump up into groups to satisfy the biology behind socializing. It's safer to be in a group, we're protected against others either competing for the same resources or who try to eliminate the competition for whatever reason. Politics is all about who controls the distribution of resources.

Americans "hate" Islamic people because they are "the enemy". A few folks using Islam as a springboard and a means to connect with and control followers are the enemy. Most of them don't.

It's not intellectual, or even necessarily straight prejudice. It's the simple fact that Islamophobia is a convenient method to control the populace's thinking. Blame the "Islamic Fundamentalists", a group no one can adequately define, for the war, the gas prices, for terrorist activities, for breaching national security, for being the dangerous enemy who is plotting to make it expensive to drive the SUV to Walmart and buy a bunch of crap, who might drop a plane with your relatives in it on your hometwon, who might ruin your way of life, which also can't be adequately defined. All a political group has to do is then explain how they have and will continue to "defend" the "American way of life" or the "British way of life" or the "Fiji way of life" or whatever to sway people. It's called using fear to push people into looking with favor on the so-called savior. God's been doing that since he convinced the first moron to sacrifice a goat to cleanse him of his sins so he can get into heaven because hell is a crappy place to be.

Hitler used it by blaming the Jews. Everyone used it when the Huns/Ghengis Kahn were running around taking over the world. The colonists used it when the went in and killed the native "savages". Jocks and cheerleaders use it when they force you to fork over the lunch money. The list goes on.

Watch out for sociologists with a political agenda. They're totally guilty of group think and group think is only good for following the herd.
 
Interview with Pierre Rehov, documentary filmmaker, on psychology behind suicide bombings

On July 15, I appeared on MSNBC's "Connected" program to discuss the 7/7 London attacks (you can see video of the segment on the linked page). One of my fellow guests was Pierre Rehov, a French filmmaker who has filmed six documentaries on the intifada by going undercover in the Palestinian areas. Pierre's upcoming film, "Suicide Killers," is based on interviews that he conducted with the families of suicide bombers and would-be bombers in an attempt to find out why they do it. Pierre agreed to my request for a Q&A interview here about his work on the new film. Many thanks to Dean Draznin and Arlyn Riskind for helping to arrange this special interview.

What inspired you to produce “Suicide Killers,” your seventh film?

I started working with victims of suicide attacks to make a film on PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) when I became fascinated with the personalities of those who had committed those crimes, as they were described again and again by their victims. Especially the fact that suicide bombers are all smiling one second before they blow themselves up.

Why is this film especially important?

People don't understand the devastating culture behind this unbelievable phenomenon. My film is not politically correct because it addresses the real problem—showing the real face of Islam. It points the finger against a culture of hatred in which the uneducated are brainwashed to a level where their only solution in life becomes to kill themselves and kill others in the name of a God whose word, as transmitted by other men, has became their only certitude.

What insights did you gain from making this film? What do you know that other experts do not know?

I came to the conclusion that we are facing a neurosis at the level of an entire civilization. Most neuroses have in common a dramatic event, generally linked to an unacceptable sexual behavior. In this case, we are talking of kids living all their lives in pure frustration, with no opportunity to experience sex, love, tenderness or even understanding from the opposite sex. The separation between men and women in Islam is absolute. So is contempt toward women, who are totally dominated by men. This leads to a situation of pure anxiety, in which normal behavior is not possible. It is no coincidence that suicide killers are mostly young men dominated subconsciously by an overwhelming libido that they not only cannot satisfy but are afraid of, as if it is the work of the devil. Since Islam describes heaven as a place where everything on earth will finally be allowed, and promises 72 virgins to those frustrated kids, killing others and killing themselves to reach this redemption becomes their only solution.

What was it like to interview would-be suicide bombers, their families and survivors of suicide bombings?

It was a fascinating and a terrifying experience. You are dealing with seemingly normal people with very nice manners who have their own logic, which to a certain extent can make sense since they are so convinced that what they say is true. It is like dealing with pure craziness, like interviewing people in an asylum, since what they say, is for them, the absolute truth. I hear a mother saying "Thank God, my son is dead." Her son had became a shaheed, a martyr, which for her was a greater source of pride than if he had became an engineer, a doctor or a winner of the Nobel Prize. This system of values works completely backwards since their interpretation of Islam worships death much more than life. You are facing people whose only dream, only achievement is to fulfill what they believe to be their destiny, namely to be a shaheed or the family of a shaheed. They don't see the innocent being killed, they only see the impure that they have to destroy.

You say suicide bombers experience a moment of absolute power, beyond punishment. Is death the ultimate power?

Not death as an end, but death as a door open to the after life. They are seeking the reward that God has promised them. They work for God, the ultimate authority, above all human laws. They therefore experience this single delusional second of absolute power, where nothing bad can ever happen to them, since they become God's sword.

Is there a suicide bomber personality profile? Describe the psychopathology.

Generally kids between 15 and 25 bearing a lot of complexes, generally inferiority complexes. They must have been fed with religion. They usually have a lack of developed personality. Usually they are impressionable idealists. In the western world they would easily have become drug addicts, but not criminals. Interestingly, they are not criminals since they don't see good and evil the same way that we do. If they had been raised in an Occidental culture, they would have hated violence. But they constantly battle against their own death anxiety. The only solution to this deep-seated pathology is to be willing to die and be rewarded in the after life in Paradise.

Are suicide bombers principally motivated by religious conviction?

Yes, it is their only conviction. They don't act to gain a territory or to find freedom or even dignity. They only follow Allah, the supreme judge, and what He tells them to do.

Do all Muslims interpret jihad and martyrdom in the same way?

All Muslim believers believe that, ultimately, Islam will prevail on earth. They believe this is the only true religion and their is no room, in their mind, for interpretation. The main difference between moderate Muslims and extremists is that moderate Muslims don't think they will see the absolute victory of Islam during their life time, therefore they respect other beliefs. The extremists believe that the fulfillment of the Prophecy of Islam and ruling the entire world as described in the Koran, is for today. Each victory of Bin Laden convinces 20 million moderate Muslims to become extremists.

Describe the culture that manufactures suicide bombers.

Oppression, lack of freedom, brain washing, organized poverty, placing God in charge of daily life, total separation between men and women, forbidding sex, giving women no power whatsoever, and placing men in charge of family honor, which is mainly connected to their women's behavior.

What socio-economic forces support the perpetuation of suicide bombings?

Muslim charity is usually a cover for supporting terrorist organizations. But one has also to look at countries like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran, which are also supporting the same organizations through different networks. The ironic thing in the case of Palestinian suicide bombers is that most of the money comes through financial support from the Occidental world, donated to a culture that utterly hates and rejects the West (mainly symbolized by Israel).

Is there a financial support network for the families of the suicide bombers? If so, who is paying them and how does that affect the decision?

There used to be a financial incentive in the days of Saddam Hussein ($25,000 per family) and Yasser Arafat (smaller amounts), but these days are gone. It is a mistake to believe that these families would sacrifice their children for money. Although, the children themselves who are very attached to their families, might find in this financial support another reason to become suicide bombers. It is like buying a life insurance policy and then committing suicide.

Why are so many suicide bombers young men?

As discussed above, libido is paramount. Also ego, because this is a sure way to become a hero. The shaheeds are the cowboys or the firemen of Islam. Shaheed is a positively reinforced value in this culture. And what kid has never dreamed of becoming a cowboy or a fireman?

What role does the U.N. play in the terrorist equation?

The UN is in the hands of Arab countries and third world or ex-communists countries. Their hands are tied. The UN has condemned Israel more than any other country in the world, including the regime of Castro, Idi Amin or Kaddahfi. By behaving this way, the UN leaves a door open by not openly condemning terrorist organizations. In addition, through UNRWA, the UN is directly tied to terror organizations such as Hamas, representing 65 percent of their apparatus in the so-called Palestinian refugee camps. As a support to Arab countries, the UN has maintained Palestinians in camps with the hope to "return" into Israel for more than 50 years, therefore making it impossible to settle those populations, which still live in deplorable conditions. Four-hundred million dollars are spent every year, mainly financed by U.S. taxes, to support 23,000 employees of UNRWA, many of whom belong to terrorist organizations (see Congressman Eric Cantor on this subject, and in my film "Hostages of Hatred").

You say that a suicide bomber is a ‘stupid bomb and a smart bomb’ simultaneously. Explain what you mean.

Unlike an electronic device, a suicide killer has until the last second the capacity to change his mind. In reality, he is nothing but a platform representing interests which are not his, but he doesn't know it.

How can we put an end to the madness of suicide bombings and terrorism in general?

Stop being politically correct and stop believe that this culture is a victim of ours. Radical Islamism today is nothing but a new form of Nazism. Nobody was trying to justify or excuse Hitler in the 1930s. We had to defeat him in order to make peace one day with the German people.

Are these men traveling outside their native areas in large numbers? Based on your research, would you predict that we are beginning to see a new wave of suicide bombings outside the Middle East?

Every successful terror attack is considered a victory by the radical Islamists. Everywhere Islam is expands there is regional conflict. Right now, their are thousands of candidates for martyrdom lining up in training camps in Bosnia, Afghanistan, Pakistan. Inside Europe, hundreds of illegal mosques are preparing the next step of brain washing to lost young men who cannot find a satisfying identity in the Occidental world. Israel is much more prepared for this than the rest of the world will ever be. Yes, there will be more suicide killings in Europe and the U.S. Sadly, this is only the beginning.
 
KillerMuffin said:
Americans "hate" Islamic people because they are "the enemy". A few folks using Islam as a springboard and a means to connect with and control followers are the enemy. Most of them don't.

You pre-suppose the Krazy's C&P is correct. It isn't. As Bernard Lewis wrote in his book "The Crisis of Islam," there is tension between Islamist and the West, not because we need an enemy, but because they do.
 
To the one that calls herself or itself blueeyesinlevis. The writer is cleary an apologist for the neo con culture that has taken over America. In the last paragraph he states
"Stop being politically correct and stop believe that this culture is a victim of ours. Radical Islamism today is nothing but a new form of Nazism. Nobody was trying to justify or excuse Hitler in the 1930s. We had to defeat him in order to make peace one day with the German people."

Let's go back a few years. to the end of ww2. There were no Islamic radical or terrorist. Britain tried to stop the Islamic armies in the Sudan years ago. They were soundly beaten to their proper asses. Now come over a little bit and you see that Britain and America helped the zionist get a hold in what they now call Israel ( forbidden by Jewish religious laws) The zionist started to stir up trouble with the islamic countries, why? because they had oil and the US wanted Oil to grease the palms of greedy oil monopolist.

No matter what your writer says he is 100% wrong. The Islamic nations are rising up against the terror of US and zionist controled oil conglomerates... It's plain and simple. Now there are many people in America that see what's going on and how the greed of a few have cost us in the way of money and lives and they WILL rise up against the REAL NAZIS george bush and his crew of no good evil people. Now take that and shove it real far...
 
KillerMuffin... If you weren's so Goddamned dumb you could be very funny..No matter how you try and rationalize it you are WRONG, You have always been WRONG and you will always be WRONG...there is no hope for you...so hang yourself...please.
 
If the issue is Israel, why were Muslims detonating truck bombs in Jerusalem even before the Jews had a state?
 
Most of you that have answered are Israel supporters. Get on the right side against Israel before it's too late.
 
krastner said:
Most of you that have answered are Israel supporters. Get on the right side against Israel before it's too late.

Do we get to behead you if we do?
 
This message is hidden because Gringao is on your ignore list.

Gringoatsass has been full of hate ever since he saw his mother letting the family dog use her mouth as a urinal.
 
krastner said:
Most of you that have answered are Israel supporters. Get on the right side against Israel before it's too late.
Look in a mirror kras. Your hatred of Jews (masquerading as mere opposition to zionism) has blinded you far worse than our support for the only real democracy in the region.

The FACT is even without Israel, the west is seen as "infidels" and in their twisted idea of the Koran, ALL infidels must be killed.

It is not just our support of Israel that they hate, it is our liberal way of life that threatens them.

It is our support of women's rights that threatens them.

It is our desire for self determination that threatens them.

It is our desire to think and worship as we please that threatens them.

To them it is the threat of all these freedoms that we hold dear that they so despise and are commited to eliminate.

Just as nazism grew from an irrational hatred of jews and other non-aryans and thus had to be confronted and not negotiated with or appeased, islamo-fascism also must be confronted, not appeased as you would have us do by abandoning Israel.

Your support of these evil people reveals your own naivety...and your hate.
 
Last edited:
krastner said:
This message is hidden because Gringao is on your ignore list.

Gringoatsass has been full of hate ever since he saw his mother letting the family dog use her mouth as a urinal.

Great free exchange of ideas

And they started hating us first, they picked a fight with us back when this country first started off the shores of Tripoli. Plus they constantly blow up our soldiers and buildings and kill civilians, but I guess we should just be more sympathetic to murderers
 
Last edited:
krastner said:
No matter what your writer says he is 100% wrong. QUOTE]


To the one that calls herself or itself krastner.....

The writer of the article has been there. You have not.

The writer of the article has spoken with these people. You have not.

The writer of the article has observed these people personally. You have not.

Therefore, whatever you claim as knowledge in this regard, it is inferior to his.
 
Turn us all inside out and we are all just red meat.

Those that claim superiority over others just have temporary successes at it.

Those that cry for mercy will not see it.

Those that trancend gods and nations will be at peace, but lonely.

The true question is is it better to be calm and isolated in a sea of sheep?
 
BlueEyesInLevis said:
Kraz will get bck to you after he finishes beating off to those pics.

Let's hope that arterial blockage takes the opportunity to break free in the process and put a stop to that black little heart of his.
 
Gringao said:
Let's hope that arterial blockage takes the opportunity to break free in the process and put a stop to that black little heart of his.
Actually I was hoping that where ever al quiada hits us next, the take Krastner with 'em!
 
BlueEyesInLevis said:
Look in a mirror kras. Your hatred of Jews (masquerading as mere opposition to zionism) has blinded you far worse than our support for the only real democracy in the region.

The FACT is even without Israel, the west is seen as "infidels" and in their twisted idea of the Koran, ALL infidels must be killed.

It is not just our support of Israel that they hate, it is our liberal way of life that threatens them.

It is our support of women's rights that threatens them.

It is our desire for self determination that threatens them.

It is our desire to think and worship as we please that threatens them.

To them it is the threat of all these freedoms that we hold dear that they so despise and are commited to eliminate.

Just as nazism grew from an irrational hatred of jews and other non-aryans and thus had to be confronted and not negotiated with or appeased, islamo-fascism also must be confronted, not appeased as you would have us do by abandoning Israel.

Your support of these evil people reveals your own naivety...and your hate.


Hey pig bitch...No matter how much you say iI do not harte Jews per se. I do hate zionist pigs and I do hate blueassinlevis too because she's such an easy creep to hate. Nazism did not grow from a hatred of non Aryans. It grew from the Balfour declaration after the first world war in which the hateful zionist jews tried to make Germany a wasteland. The hatred of the Nazis was aimed at the jews because it was Jews that did the deed by declaring war on Germany before Hitler came to power. There were people in the ranks of the Nazis that had a seperate agenda ,like fat man and Eichmann and a few others that practiced human sacrifice for a norse
god that they worshiped called Wotan. Hitler didn;t really know all this shit was going on. he was so full of the worship and adoration her was receiving from the German people. That and Eva and her sister who he had continuous orgieswith at Burghof.. The problem is that you don't really know shit ...just what you read..i learned it from people that were there...bitch...no go lick your nasty cunt...
 
Back
Top