Why black authors should self-publish any self-respecting romance story

[LJ_Reloaded]

Any romance story that has black people looking like something better than the stereotypical white people's ghetto monkey bullshit, will not make it past a mainstream publishing house's editors. This is the message that is strongly implied by Lynn Viehl about her book "If Angels Burn".

A little background: in this story, a black woman is the protagonist. She is part white, and was raised by white parents who did not like her associating with blacks. She grew up to be a plastic surgeon and EVERY black person she met was an utter abomination of a human being.

This comment below suggests that Lynn Viehl had a different idea of black people in mind, but the editors apparently kicked her ass about it in books previous to "If Angels Burn" and forced her to change her story significantly, to the point that by the time she wrote "If Angels Burn", she was practically indoctrinated to write most black characters in a horrible light - so that the editors would make minimal changes to her story.

This author is white, but this problem is why self-publishing is a far better option for anyone writing a cast of black people who are in general more exemplary than disgusting.

http://pbackwriter.blogspot.com/2009/01/robs-stats.html

Also another question ... I tend to look for interracial paranormal books and yours is the only one I've found that I like (there arent that many at all anyway) but I would like to know what drove you to make Alex a black woman?

I wish I could cite some noble purpose, but honestly, that's simply how I saw Alexandra when I put together the proposal for the series. I know some readers weren't too happy with the idea of a non-white series protagonist, but I don't think every female or male protagonist has to default to Caucasian. Fortunately I was allowed to write her that way without editorial interference, something I've had to deal with frequently in the past with the other non-white protagonists in my books.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

Any romance story that has black people looking like something better than the stereotypical white people's ghetto monkey bullshit, will not make it past a mainstream publishing house's editors. This is the message that is strongly implied by Lynn Viehl about her book "If Angels Burn".

A little background: in this story, a black woman is the protagonist. She is part white, and was raised by white parents who did not like her associating with blacks. She grew up to be a plastic surgeon and EVERY black person she met was an utter abomination of a human being.

This comment below suggests that Lynn Viehl had a different idea of black people in mind, but the editors apparently kicked her ass about it in books previous to "If Angels Burn" and forced her to change her story significantly, to the point that by the time she wrote "If Angels Burn", she was practically indoctrinated to write most black characters in a horrible light - so that the editors would make minimal changes to her story.

This author is white, but this problem is why self-publishing is a far better option for anyone writing a cast of black people who are in general more exemplary than disgusting.

White, but I have a story on this site with a non-stereotypical strong intelligent black man.

 

[colddiesel]

LJ Reloaded currently has, between the AH. and the GB. four threads. In two of them he is whining and snivelling about how badly black people are treated and he yells racism at the slightest provocation.

In the other two, he constantly attacks all women in the most demeaning and patronizing terms claiming they all victimize him too!

He doesn't seem to realize that his behavior is absolutely stereotypical Ghetto Black male. He whines about his victim-hood but claims the right to beat up on every woman. He is terrified of white men and all women.

I wonder how much time he has on his rap sheet.

 

[lovecraft68]

Nothing worse than a reverse racist chauvinist.

Must really suck to hate the majority of the world.

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Nothing worse than a reverse racist chauvinist.

Must really suck to hate the majority of the world.

Since you cannot at all claim that I'm factually wrong, how about this. Why don't you just take a shotgun, put it in your white pasty faced mouth, and blow out that last remaining brain cell that's trapped inside your putrefying skull? At least do the right thing and put an end to your misery - and the world's.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

Since you cannot at all claim that I'm factually wrong, how about this. Why don't you just take a shotgun, put it in your white pasty faced mouth, and blow out that last remaining brain cell that's trapped inside your putrefying skull? At least do the right thing and put an end to your misery - and the world's.

aww...

it's angwy

 

[Safe_Bet]

LJ Reloaded currently has, between the AH. and the GB. four threads. In two of them he is whining and snivelling about how badly black people are treated and he yells racism at the slightest provocation.

In the other two, he constantly attacks all women in the most demeaning and patronizing terms claiming they all victimize him too!

He doesn't seem to realize that his behavior is absolutely stereotypical Ghetto Black male. He whines about his victim-hood but claims the right to beat up on every woman. He is terrified of white men and all women.

I wonder how much time he has on his rap sheet.

You mean other then the fact that he's a white guy???

The dude is the Vanilla Ice of trolldom.

 

[lovecraft68]

Oh, look an angry black man threatening a white guy!

Oh, wait a minute that only gets news if it's the other way around. Right LJ?

Tell you what, come point the shot gun at my pasty white face. Better hope you have the stones to pull the trigger

Boy!

 

[Stella_Omega]

Nothing worse than a reverse racist chauvinist.

Must really suck to hate the majority of the world.

it really sucks to know that so much of the world hates you.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

Oh, look an angry black man threatening a white guy!

Oh, wait a minute that only gets news if it's the other way around. Right LJ?

Tell you what, come point the shot gun at my pasty white face. Better hope you have the stones to pull the trigger

Boy!

That was too far.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Oh, look an angry black man threatening a white guy!

Oh, wait a minute that only gets news if it's the other way around. Right LJ?

Tell you what, come point the shot gun at my pasty white face. Better hope you have the stones to pull the trigger

Boy!

OH.NO.YOU.DID.NOT.JUST.SAY.THAT!!!

Seriously, dude??? I mean fucking SERIOUSLY????

 

[Stella_Omega]

Oh, look an angry black man threatening a white guy!

Oh, wait a minute that only gets news if it's the other way around. Right LJ?

Tell you what, come point the shot gun at my pasty white face. Better hope you have the stones to pull the trigger

Boy!

I have now officially lost the last vestige of respect for you that I could possibly have had. I hope you use a different name for your writing because this is the kind of shithole behavior that will stay with your name forever.

 

[3113]

Is this the thread where I get to hype my interracial romance stories on Beautiful Trouble? Created by two black ladies, they're E-publishers specializing in black and interracial romances. So, I suppose this is where I should hype and advertise them?

Or it is too late to do that?

 

[Stella_Omega]

Is this the thread where I get to hype my interracial romance stories on Beautiful Trouble? Created by two black ladies, they're E-publishers specializing in black and interracial romances. So, I suppose this is where I should hype and advertise them?

Or it is too late to do that?

It was too late from the first post onwards.

I sympathise with LJ's frustration regarding race, and scorn his anger towards women.

Noone ever said that anyone had to be consistent in all of their views though, and there are plenty of people who are brilliant about one thing and act like frothing turdeaters about something else.

 

[lovecraft68]

Ahhh, see here is the proof. he blasts white people and women 24/7 but use the word Boy once and I'm wrong am I?

Thanks for playing the Political correctness has ruined this country game.

Think I'm wrong? A white kid was set on fire by black kids. That story vanished awfully quick didn't it?

Where was our president? Why wasn't he involved?

Where were the protests? The parades? Congressmen showing up for work doused in oil?

yeah, okay.

 

[lovecraft68]

I have now officially lost the last vestige of respect for you that I could possibly have had. I hope you use a different name for your writing because this is the kind of shithole behavior that will stay with your name forever.

Somehow I will sleep tonight.

LJ has spent a long time on this thread insulting white people for no reason other than some type of deep seeded bitterness.

No one ever see's it that perhaps white people get tired of hearing it as well.

I'm not racist in the least it's up to you whether or not you want to believe that.

End of the day if the prick wants to sling it then he needs to take it. The ironic thing is, I really think he's white.

 

[Stella_Omega]

The difference is that I never had any respect for LJ in the first place although I understand why is is what he is.

The problems that LJ faces are systemic, but affect him in deeply personal ways. yeah, he might want to sling it-- but he already has taken it plenty. Very very few black people can claim to have been unaffected by the racism that is endemic in our society.

You are have privilege within the systems that affect LJ that he does not have, and there is really no reason for you to be personally affected by his reactions. But you chose to do so in ways that point out the ways in which the system affects him. And you blame him for being affected.

Same with women's issues-- google the term "intersectionality" which fminism coined but has become a very important word for a very important part of the human experience.

 

[Cruel2BKind]

And arguing that white people are being discriminated against by black people is the same foolish inconsiderate argument that he's trying to spin in the other thread. Y'know, the one where supposedly women are discriminating unfairly against men.

 

[Safe_Bet]

I'm not racist in the least it's up to you whether or not you want to believe that.

Sure... Okay...

And you call some of your best friends "boy" too, right?


(and yeah... I know I'm often misandric. I'll own MY shit. How 'bout you????)

 

[Stella_Omega]

And arguing that white people are being discriminated against by black people is the same foolish inconsiderate argument that he's trying to spin in the other thread. Y'know, the one where supposedly women are discriminating unfairly against men.

oh, teh butthurtness of it all!

 

[lovecraft68]

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=804344

First post says it all. This is a pretty decent thread with a lot of good points for
and against racism and the role it plays.

I'm in this thread in several places under an alt that none of you will never know.

Take your arguments over there where there are some people making educated points rather than whining and finger pointing.

 

[Stella_Omega]

An alt none of us will ever know?

And you bitch about Pilot's secret identity you hypocrite! lol

 

[Safe_Bet]

An alt none of us will ever know?

And you bitch about Pilot's secret identity you hypocrite! lol

I found him!

It was easy. I just had to look at post #83 and there was LC!!!!

 

[LJ_Reloaded]

Oh, look an angry black man threatening a white guy!

Oh, wait a minute that only gets news if it's the other way around. Right LJ?

Tell you what, come point the shot gun at my pasty white face. Better hope you have the stones to pull the trigger

Boy!

LOL, hahahahaha now you're trying to be intimidating. People like you are easy prey.

You don't even own a shotgun to kill yourself. The last time you encountered an angry black man the freckles jumped up and fled off of your face. You turned pasty faced and never went back.

In real life you're probably just a cuckolded white male taking care of four half-black kids by your wife's scary black paramour.

 

[Safe_Bet]

LOL, hahahahaha now you're trying to be intimidating. People like you are easy prey.

You don't even own a shotgun to kill yourself. The last time you encountered an angry black man the freckles jumped up and fled off of your face. You turned pasty faced and never went back.

In real life you're probably just a cuckolded white male taking care of four half-black kids by your wife's scary black paramour.

NOW who's making racist comments, douche? (that would be YOU!)

There is some debate, BTW, on whether you are an angry black man or a white dude who is an obnoxious troll that uses an issue like this for his own amusement. (I'm voting for the later).