Why are immigrants being deported to "third countries"?

[Politruk]

Whether the government can do that is being litigated, but why would they even want to? It costs no more money to deport them to their countries of origin.

 

[Politruk]

Seriously, what's the point?

 

[Baztrachian]

Whether the government can do that is being litigated, but why would they even want to? It costs no more money to deport them to their countries of origin.

1. Some countries don't want their people back.
2. Sometimes the correct place to send someone is to the first country they landed on when seeking asylum. For instance if someone is an asylum seeker from Venezuela and they travel across Colombia on their journey to the USA then their correct destination under international law is Colombia.

Asylum seekers have to seek asylum in the first place they land, not in their desired destination.

 

[Politruk]

1. Some countries don't want their people back.
2. Sometimes the correct place to send someone is to the first country they landed on when seeking asylum. For instance if someone is an asylum seeker from Venezuela and they travel across Colombia on their journey to the USA then their correct destination under international law is Colombia.

Asylum seekers have to seek asylum in the first place they land, not in their desired destination.

But nobody endered the U.S. by way of (or, AFAIK, from) South Sudan.

 

[Baztrachian]

But nobody endered the U.S. by way of (or, AFAIK, from) South Sudan.

Right. As I said here: 1. Some countries don't want their people back.

If Venezuela refuses to take back their people and South Sudan will take them then off to South Sudan they go.

Which comports with international law:

https://www.unhcr.org/about-unhcr/overview/1951-refugee-convention

 

[TheGxForum]

Seriously, what's the point?

The point is to get rid of them no matter what...

 

[Politruk]

Right. As I said here: 1. Some countries don't want their people back.

If Venezuela refuses to take back their people and South Sudan will take them then off to South Sudan they go.

Which comports with international law:

https://www.unhcr.org/about-unhcr/overview/1951-refugee-convention

The core principle of the 1951 Convention is non-refoulement, which asserts that a refugee should not be returned to a country where they face serious threats to their life or freedom.


How is it any different to send them to a different country where they face serious threats to their life or freedom? Which applies to just about anyone who enters South Sudan.

 

[TheGxForum]

The core principle of the 1951 Convention is non-refoulement, which asserts that a refugee should not be returned to a country where they face serious threats to their life or freedom.


How is it any different to send them to a different country where they face serious threats to their life or freedom?

Thing is chump doesn't care about any of that that's how pig culture lovers are...

 

[Rebel5soul]

SCOTUS ended this discussion before it ever started. This thread is a waste of time and bandwidth.

 

[Politruk]

SCOTUS ended this discussion before it ever started. This thread is a waste of time and bandwidth.

We are not discussing the law. We are discussing policy.

 

[Baztrachian]

SCOTUS ended this discussion before it ever started. This thread is a waste of time and bandwidth.

What he said.

 

[Baztrachian]

We are not discussing the law. We are discussing policy.

My policy is that uninvited guests get kicked the fuck out.

 

[Lance_Castro]

I guess thats why the USA wants Greenland & Canada.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Nah, we want Canada for the beer. (Although our craft houses are turning out some seriously tasty stuff.)

 

[1984X2024]

No immigrants are deported anywhere

 

[Politruk]

My policy is that uninvited guests get kicked the fuck out.

Not just anywhere, I hope.

 

[Rebel5soul]

No immigrants are deported anywhere

Valid point.

 

[Politruk]

No immigrants are deported anywhere

Illegals are immigrants.

 

[Politruk]

Nah, we want Canada for the beer. (Although our craft houses are turning out some seriously tasty stuff.)

Who's being deported to Canada?

 

[nowisthetime]

Whether the government can do that is being litigated, but why would they even want to? It costs no more money to deport them to their countries of origin.

Because this administration is an evil shit show.

 

[Baztrachian]

Illegals are immigrants.

No. By definition they are invaders when they enter a country without permission to do so.

 

[Politruk]

No. By definition they are invaders when they enter a country without permission to do so.

Immigrants are by definition never invaders, however they enter, and in whatever numbers.

 

[Baztrachian]

Immigrants are by definition never invaders, however they enter, and in whatever numbers.

Then by your measure the Russians in Ukraine are just immigrants.

 

[Politruk]

Then by your measure the Russians in Ukraine are just immigrants.

Invaders come as armies. They are not smuggled by coyotes.

 

[Baztrachian]

Invaders come as armies. They are not smuggled by coyotes.

No, you said:

Immigrants are by definition never invaders, however they enter, and in whatever numbers.