Who loves vampires? Or werewolves??

[Thevirginwriter]

The tv shows and movies always finds perfect looking actors to portray them, it's hard not to have a crush on them! Robert Pattinson was a big big disappointment though! It really became a horror show somewhere around the ending of New Moon. That stripping, argh! Nightmare!

 

[about_average]

I'm scared of them, that's why I always keep one magazine of of wooden bullets and one of silver bullets close at hand. And wear a garland of garlic and woflsbane to keep them at bay until I can change magazines.

I do agree that Max Schreck was well cast, though I'd worry about anyone with a crush on him. Sort of like having a crush on Charles Manson.

 

[Thevirginwriter]

What have you read?

I'm scared of them, that's why I always keep one magazine of of wooden bullets and one of silver bullets close at hand. And wear a garland of garlic and woflsbane to keep them at bay until I can change magazines.

garlic's a buff. But wooden bullets work. So does silver ones. Supernatural fan??

 

[DarkLisa]

I'm not into vampires, and haven't ever read/seen any of the Twilight stuff, but I love the werewolf stories here on Lit. Something about that alpha male, mate for life, must have her and take her or die stuff turns me on a bit.

 

[Thevirginwriter]

They are good, indeed!

I'm not into vampires, and haven't ever read/seen any of the Twilight stuff, but I love the werewolf stories here on Lit. Something about that alpha male, mate for life, must have her and take her or die stuff turns me on a bit.

do you follow tv show 'teen wolf'? It's cool...

 

[about_average]

garlic's a buff.

Many folk remedies have more than a little truth in them, especially ones related to plants and herbs. Garlic has been used to keep vampires at bay since long before Bram Stoker came on the scene. But regardless, I like garlic.

 

[Thevirginwriter]

I love garlic, too!

Many folk remedies have more than a little truth in them, especially ones related to plants and herbs. Garlic has been used to keep vampires at bay since long before Bram Stoker came on the scene. But regardless, I like garlic.

not to keep them at bay, just like the flavour. But I'm willing to sacrifice it if I ever meet a vampire!

 

[Lori_the_Hoosier]

The tv shows and movies always finds perfect looking actors to portray them, it's hard not to have a crush on them! Robert Pattinson was a big big disappointment though! It really became a horror show somewhere around the ending of New Moon. That stripping, argh! Nightmare!

The 'Twilight' saga and similar seems to have re-branded the vampire myth as cool and somehow desirable;I know the whole power and blood and domination thing is very sexy in it's place, but it seems to have taken a step back from the essence of the whole vampire mythos; soulless, blood-crazed fiends who destroy life to satisfy their blood-hunger, a craving that is never satisfied; The power of the werewolf (verulf, vargulf, loup-garou etc) lies in a more human set of attibutes; they feel pain, attachment, loyalty, love and fear, and when not in the change, a change they have no control over, they are as human as you or I. terry Pratchett described vampires very tellingly in 'Carpe Jugulum' (Go For The Throat) when one of the vampires says that the difference between humans and vampires is that humans have children to raise as their successors, vampires don't breed because they would only be raising their rivals. vampire egend the world over only ever describes destructive ravenous creatures with no redeeming features, the embodiment of evil. If you want to read a really chilling vampire story, try 'Carmilla' by J. Sheridan le Fanu, I read it a teen, and it still haunts me

 

[Thevirginwriter]

Wow!

The 'Twilight' saga and similar seems to have re-branded the vampire myth as cool and somehow desirable;I know the whole power and blood and domination thing is very sexy in it's place, but it seems to have taken a step back from the essence of the whole vampire mythos; soulless, blood-crazed fiends who destroy life to satisfy their blood-hunger, a craving that is never satisfied; The power of the werewolf (verulf, vargulf, loup-garou etc) lies in a more human set of attibutes; they feel pain, attachment, loyalty, love and fear, and when not in the change, a change they have no control over, they are as human as you or I. terry Pratchett described vampires very tellingly in 'Carpe Jugulum' (Go For The Throat) when one of the vampires says that the difference between humans and vampires is that humans have children to raise as their successors, vampires don't breed because they would only be raising their rivals. vampire egend the world over only ever describes destructive ravenous creatures with no redeeming features, the embodiment of evil. If you want to read a really chilling vampire story, try 'Carmilla' by J. Sheridan le Fanu, I read it a teen, and it still haunts me

twilight has re defined vampires but while I LOVE Edward Cullen (the character, not Pattinson), I also think their presence should be more powerful. Dominance is the more likely way in my opinion. I've read my fair shares of vampire horror stories, too. But ever since they were described being attractive (I think Anne Rice was the first), it's been more sexy than horrid for me! Have you read Anne Rice? Lestat is clearly dominating, that's more like how it should be...

 

[Lori_the_Hoosier]

twilight has re defined vampires but while I LOVE Edward Cullen (the character, not Pattinson), I also think their presence should be more powerful. Dominance is the more likely way in my opinion. I've read my fair shares of vampire horror stories, too. But ever since they were described being attractive (I think Anne Rice was the first), it's been more sexy than horrid for me! Have you read Anne Rice? Lestat is clearly dominating, that's more like how it should be...

Again, the dominance is a clear and integral part of the vampire appeal, but the vampire lore describes that dominance as being the way a man dominates cattle or sheep, food being prepared for the feast, rather than the deep-seated psycho-sexual triggering that is such a base constituent of the genre today. I tried reading and appreciating the Anne Rice novels, and I have to be honest, I couldn't see them as anything other than modern day gothic bodice-rippers with vampires thrown in to tittilate and add a different sexual dimension.

 

[Thevirginwriter]

That was honest!

Again, the dominance is a clear and integral part of the vampire appeal, but the vampire lore describes that dominance as being the way a man dominates cattle or sheep, food being prepared for the feast, rather than the deep-seated psycho-sexual triggering that is such a base constituent of the genre today. I tried reading and appreciating the Anne Rice novels, and I have to be honest, I couldn't see them as anything other than modern day gothic bodice-rippers with vampires thrown in to tittilate and add a different sexual dimension.

writing is about using imaginations. If vampires exists at all, might as well be sexy, right? And they are called fiction stories, not horrors for a reason!

 

[blackredready]

Silver Bullet and The Lost Boys? great movies. at least in the 80s they were.

 

[Lori_the_Hoosier]

Silver Bullet and The Lost Boys? great movies. at least in the 80s they were.

I heard that!

 

[Lori_the_Hoosier]

writing is about using imaginations. If vampires exists at all, might as well be sexy, right? And they are called fiction stories, not horrors for a reason!

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this point! Fictionalising fears, whether real or imagined, trivialises them, which is not always a good thing; the thin end of the wedge? Perhaps my viewpoint is colored by my training and ocupational experiences! I have read a series by Judith & garfield Reeves-Stevens, the Chronicles of Galen Sword, and the vampire clans described therein are known as 'Nightfeeder's', and one description of them draining a target prey was enough to put me off reading the genre for life!

 

[Storiest]

Vamps and werewolves.

The tv shows and movies always finds perfect looking actors to portray them, it's hard not to have a crush on them! Robert Pattinson was a big big disappointment though! It really became a horror show somewhere around the ending of New Moon. That stripping, argh! Nightmare!

I love a good vampire story or a good werewolf story. My favorite iteration of vampires is the old Dracula movie, where he could turn into a bat or a wolf. I love a good werewolf just the same. What I don't care for is when they are in the same world. One type of supernatural being is enough for me.

The comic book American Vampire by Scott Snyder, Stephen King, and Rafael Albuquerque is a fantastic ongoing story, and also a great take on vampires with interesting characters.

 

[Storiest]

Lost Boys

I used to bike by that bridge in the lost boys daily. Great flick.

Silver Bullet and The Lost Boys? great movies. at least in the 80s they were.

 

[Storiest]

Again, the dominance is a clear and integral part of the vampire appeal, but the vampire lore describes that dominance as being the way a man dominates cattle or sheep, food being prepared for the feast, rather than the deep-seated psycho-sexual triggering that is such a base constituent of the genre today. I tried reading and appreciating the Anne Rice novels, and I have to be honest, I couldn't see them as anything other than modern day gothic bodice-rippers with vampires thrown in to tittilate and add a different sexual dimension.

I might love you for saying this.

 

[about_average]

The 'Twilight' saga and similar seems to have re-branded the vampire myth as cool and somehow desirable;I know the whole power and blood and domination thing is very sexy in it's place, but it seems to have taken a step back from the essence of the whole vampire mythos; soulless, blood-crazed fiends who destroy life to satisfy their blood-hunger, a craving that is never satisfied;

That's essentially what I meant by the Charles Manson analogy.

 

[Thevirginwriter]

Lol

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this point! Fictionalising fears, whether real or imagined, trivialises them, which is not always a good thing; the thin end of the wedge? Perhaps my viewpoint is colored by my training and ocupational experiences! I have read a series by Judith & garfield Reeves-Stevens, the Chronicles of Galen Sword, and the vampire clans described therein are known as 'Nightfeeder's', and one description of them draining a target prey was enough to put me off reading the genre for life!

that seems to be the best idea! Probably I haven't read as much horror stories as you did. I think vampire in its true self is fascinating. It's true that I haven't read outstanding erotica from the non human category, it's hardly vampire's fault that there aren't many writers who can present vampires as sexual characters without hampering the primal nature of vampires. But I believe it's possible to present vampires like that without them having to make a difference.

 

[Thevirginwriter]

Handshake

I love a good vampire story or a good werewolf story. My favorite iteration of vampires is the old Dracula movie, where he could turn into a bat or a wolf. I love a good werewolf just the same. What I don't care for is when they are in the same world. One type of supernatural being is enough for me.

The comic book American Vampire by Scott Snyder, Stephen King, and Rafael Albuquerque is a fantastic ongoing story, and also a great take on vampires with interesting characters.

same here...

 

[Lori_the_Hoosier]

I might love you for saying this.

Thank you! I'm not anti the genre, far from it, I just think there's more to be explored than endless moping and impossibly windswept and interestingly pale louche youths lounging around looking devastating. I love a good werewolf yarn, because, I find the appeal closer to the human norm - for all their animal nature, when the moon goes down they are as conflicted, as real and as damaged as ordinary people; I tried watching 'True Blood', and I've never seen such protracted loose-stool water in my entire life, the whole series has gone from ludicrous to stupidly ridiculous, although some of the vampires do approximate what I think of as the expected behaviour of an amoral, blood-crazed fiend that vampires are historically portrayed as

 

[Thevirginwriter]

Wow, who bit you?!

Thank you! I'm not anti the genre, far from it, I just think there's more to be explored than endless moping and impossibly windswept and interestingly pale louche youths lounging around looking devastating. I love a good werewolf yarn, because, I find the appeal closer to the human norm - for all their animal nature, when the moon goes down they are as conflicted, as real and as damaged as ordinary people; I tried watching 'True Blood', and I've never seen such protracted loose-stool water in my entire life, the whole series has gone from ludicrous to stupidly ridiculous, although some of the vampires do approximate what I think of as the expected behaviour of an amoral, blood-crazed fiend that vampires are historically portrayed as

your energy towards vampires, goodness!

 

[Lori_the_Hoosier]

that seems to be the best idea! Probably I haven't read as much horror stories as you did. I think vampire in its true self is fascinating. It's true that I haven't read outstanding erotica from the non human category, it's hardly vampire's fault that there aren't many writers who can present vampires as sexual characters without hampering the primal nature of vampires. But I believe it's possible to present vampires like that without them having to make a difference.

Of course, and I agree. The aspect of vampires that interests me the most, and keeps drawing me back, is the blood issue. Blood has always exercised a powerful erotic attraction, and the drawing of blood, blood rituals, blood sacrifice are as old as humanity. Blood and the other life fluid, semen, are often inextricably and erotically linked because of the connotations of life giving, life bearing, life maintaining that both excercise in the human psyche, and the need to draw one or the other into oneself in order to maintain that link with life is both well documented and felt most emphatically by those cultures that indulge in practices linking one with the other